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After Emmanuel Macron Becomes First Western Leader To Supply Ukraine With Tanks In War With Russia, Germany And United States Quickly Follow His Lead
Now The End Begins ^ | 1/6/23 | Geoffrey Grider

Posted on 01/07/2023 1:49:10 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

In a potentially escalatory move, French President Emmanuel Macron became the first Western leader to supply Ukraine with tanks following talks with President Volodymyr Zelensky.

In case you haven’t figured it out by now, the West is conducting regime change in Russia by engaging in a proxy war through Ukraine and the oh-so-willing Volodymyr Zelensky. Could this have anything to do with the 2014 Ukrainian insurrection funded and conducted by the Obama Biden regime in the United States? Now the erstwhile leader of all Europe, Emmanuel Macron, has become the first furnish tanks to Ukraine, immediately followed by Germany and the US. Amazing how Macron is always first in, isn’t it?

For the most part, people have stopped watching this war because of its obviously false nature, having figured out this is not war but regime change. So the question becomes, who takes over Russia after the current push concludes? I think it will be someone very friendly to the interests of Europe, and by saying ‘the interests of Europe’ I mean Emmanuel Macron.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: europe; gravytrainforukraine; macron; nafotrollfarm; notourwar; ukraine; wefwar
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

They are recon vehicles with wheels and a big gun, not MBTs like Abrams, Leopard, Leclerc, Black Panther etc.


21 posted on 01/07/2023 2:47:16 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: kiryandil; All

Russia invaded Ukraine. It was suppose to be over within 72 hours...

And ow the Kremlin is waging war against the Russian people.

The USA lost +4000 soldiers after about a decade of conflict in Iraq.
Russia, has already eliminated +100.000 (!) Russian boys on the killing fields of Ukraine. The Russian people sent as cannon fodder. Way to go Putin !

Russia has already lost, its fleeing from every where... Kherson... and now Bakmuth seem to go south for Russia too ! Wagner is in full panic mode.

I don’t want Russia to continue humiliate itself like this.
Hey, Kremlin deep state politicians! Save yourselves from the Ukrainian Vikings !
Russian troops, go home.


22 posted on 01/07/2023 2:52:25 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE
Russia invaded Ukraine. It was suppose to be over within 72 hours...

Your direct line into Putin's brain told you this?

More pinwheels-for-eyes cray-cray from the Ukie bots on FR.

You need a rubber room.

23 posted on 01/07/2023 2:53:55 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: kiryandil

Rubber hose is more like it...


24 posted on 01/07/2023 2:55:25 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: USA-FRANCE
its fleeing from every where... Kherson

You're talking about where the Ukies bellied up to the Dnepr and are now playing catch with the Russian artillery at point-blank range?

25 posted on 01/07/2023 2:56:19 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: kiryandil

More pinwheels-for-eyes cray-cray from the Ukie bots on FR.

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Yeah, these are the posts made from the Bulwark when all the globohomos there take the weekend off from posting themselves.


26 posted on 01/07/2023 2:57:59 PM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: mac_truck
"Bakhmut (Artemivs'k) is going south for the Russians"

The dude is Koo-Koo for Cocoa Puffs.

27 posted on 01/07/2023 2:58:30 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: Bishop_Malachi
Yeah, these are the posts made from the Bulwark when all the globohomos there take the weekend off from posting themselves.

There IS noticeable "flouncing" when they arrive here in their 3-inch Ukie stiletto heels.

28 posted on 01/07/2023 3:02:14 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: kiryandil; marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; ...

Ukraine ping

kiryandil: [Target Practice]


During the Gulf War, Bradleys made short work of T-72’s, despite T-72’s being better armored (over 50% heavier, with much of that additional weight reflected in the T-72’s superior armor protection).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Fighting_Vehicle#Combat_history

The difference comes down to better target acquisition systems. American systems are idiot-proof. Russia’s - not so much. I know a Russian guy who once operated a Russian missile system. Last I heard, he was a mid-level guy at a big Wall Street firm. That’s the caliber of person you need to operate Russian systems effectively. You know why firearms caught on so quickly over the bow and arrow, despite the fact that, at the beginning, firearms had shorter ranges, were less accurate and had slower rates of fire? Because it was a lot easier to train someone to use a matchlock than to use a bow. That’s the advantage of Western arms over their Russian counterpart.

A Russian test pilot flew an F-5 captured after the fall of Saigon in 1975.

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/soviet-pilot-who-test-flew-captured-f-5-against-mig-21-mig-23-explains-why-the-tiger-beat-the-fishbed-flogger-in-every-engagement/

Despite very few hours in the aircraft, he had few issues outmaneuvering the latest Russian jets. The flyers he went up against flew the F-5 against other pilots flying MiG’s and had no issues replicating his experience, despite very few hours logged on the F-5. And the F-5 was just a cheap airframe ginned up to supply less well-off US allies with something they could afford to fly and maintain.

There’s a reason that countries that can afford US weaponry and are chiefly concerned with external threats tend to buy US gear. It’s more effective, and easier to use. That’s what Ukraine gets with the junkyard Bradleys it’s receiving. Better target acquisition systems and easier maintenance.

Trent Telenko, a former gunner turned Pentagon auditor, talks about maintenance issues re the smorgasbord of equipment Ukraine has received, as compared to the Russian equipment on which they were trained:

[ I’ve been asked by several people in my threads to take a shot at the maintenance & logistical impact of lots of new Western weapons on Ukraine’s military.

Specifically, does Ukraine have the experience & personnel to move it, repair it, maintain it right now?
Logistics 🧵
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Short form: No.

Longer form:

A lot of the Ukrainians the West has been training these last 5 months have been instructors to train Ukrainian maintainers & other logistical people to operate these new rounds of Western equipment.

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Related to all this training is an important thing to know on the sociology front. Ukraine has a really low GINI index. It doesn’t have a huge & stratified income gap between the richest & poorest.

This means there is a deep penetration computer usage in the population.

3/
Most of my DLA/DCMC/DCMA government career it was “you need x years of experience with our Mechanization of Contract Administration Services (MOCAS) software” for contracts & staff jobs.

Those Federal supervisors were mirror imaging their experience from before 1990
4/
...when computers were mainframe & mini-computers that were rare, cost thousands and were found in only one or two places.

In 2023 everyone aged 45 and under effectively can be trained in a week tops on computer systems.

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2023 is simply not like 1990 & earlier.

When you really did want experience in computers. Since they were expensive, finicky and could be broken, horribly, by people who didn’t know them.

This dynamic applies in 🇺🇦 because they had deep societal penetration of computers
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...in young Ukrainians in a way Russia didn’t because Russian oil money was never shared with the wider society.

The USA has the same income stratifications as Russia due to the world’s largest financial market values, but total US wealth is much higher so everyone has
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...a smartphone or computer.

I’ve used this meme several times to capture this ‘computer sociology’ of Ukrainian soldiers maintaining all the newest Western 155mm SP artillery.

AFU has small number of the Polish Krab, Franch Caesar, German Pzh2000, US-Norwegian M109A3G &
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...Czech Dana SP howitzers and are simply saying “More please” as they shoot out the barrels at the Russians.

As a then 50 something teaching 25-to-30 something DCMA new hires in government computer systems, this effect was rubbed in my face quite often.

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The thing to remember is that Ukraine is maintaining 45 years worth of different Soviet tank designs, the T-62, T-64, T-72, T-80, and T-90. There are 5 different tanks with 4 different autoloaders, 3 different engines, including a turbine, & huge differences in fire
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...controls. None of these tanks are particularly easy to maintain.

The T-72 engine, the most common design, comes in different power levels based on the quality control of its particular build.

The lowest powered ones being on T-72 hulls used in engineering & recovery

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...variants.

And Ukraine has captured 1,000 Russian tanks, many out of deep reserves, of every conceivable variation.

Transitioning to newer Western vehicles is EASY because they were built to have lower maintenance hours because volunteer soldiers were more expensive

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....per hour than a conscript.

Western combat vehicles have a higher up front expense in part because western nations spend a lot of money during development making their vehicles easier to maintain.

Adding more space under armor for access panels to be able to fix things
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...is expensive in terms of up front cost.

But if it saves 5,000 maintenance hours over a tank’s 20 year service life, and has a 15% higher serviceability rate to train crews. That is a bargain.

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This is a total cost of ownership thing.

The West tries to make the cost of operations a metric as a part of weapons development.

The Russians don’t go there because, “free” conscripts.

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Computer literate Ukrainian maintainers take all the DVD’s & USB drives filled with PDF files of Western weapons manuals, run a English/French/German to Ukrainian language translation software and have at it.

New Western weapons are simply easier for computer literate
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...Ukrainians to maintain than the left over & ever changing Ex-Soviet junk heap they have been fighting with since 24 Feb 2022.

The announcements like the one at the beginning of this 🧵are usually preceded by a lot of training and logistics we just don’t see.

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There is a lot more to war than fighting.

Logistics is literally everything except the shooting & killing.

This thread was written to teach you to understand these ‘soft factors’ at work in the Russo-Ukrainian War.

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29 posted on 01/07/2023 3:08:46 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: kiryandil

Prove to me that you aren’t a Russkie-bot...

Do you want KGB-Russia and their Iranian Islamic war collaborators to win ?

OR...

Do you want Ukraine and their western Christian collaborators to win ?

Will you be able to answer? (I’m getting my popcorns).


30 posted on 01/07/2023 3:08:57 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: Zhang Fei

Highly informative, great work Zhang Wei.
Thank you,


31 posted on 01/07/2023 3:16:15 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

About time that France steps to the plate. Where is the rest of the EU?


32 posted on 01/07/2023 3:18:00 PM PST by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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To: USA-FRANCE
Prove to me that you aren’t a Russkie-bot...

Been here 26 years in March, Flush.

I don't have to prove ANYTHING to a n00bi3 Ukie tool like you.

33 posted on 01/07/2023 3:19:22 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: Zhang Fei
During the Gulf War, Bradleys made short work of T-72’s,

The end.

34 posted on 01/07/2023 3:20:10 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: Zhang Fei

30 frickin’ years.


35 posted on 01/07/2023 3:21:03 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: kiryandil; All

Then you have to prove you didn’t infiltrate America 26 years ago :

To be believed you can answer the simple question below, very important.

Do you want KGB-Russia and their Iranian Islamic war collaborators to win in the Ukraine war ?

OR...

Do you want Ukraine and their western Christian collaborators to win ?

Such question hurts doest it? It called “the perfect trap”.

I don’t think you have the power to respond to this.


36 posted on 01/07/2023 3:28:50 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: kiryandil
"PUTIN’S WEAKNESS... (since his invasion of Crimea, Russia's economy is falling apart)"
This was before those nasty RuZZian ran out of oil, natural gas, and natural resouces to get along without European
37 posted on 01/07/2023 3:29:52 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: USA-FRANCE
Then you have to prove you didn’t infiltrate America 26 years ago :

The clown who beclowned himself while beclowning Free Republic.

Where are all you Re-Animators from Ukie Propaganda Central coming from?


38 posted on 01/07/2023 3:33:41 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Wisdom comes with a gray beard but mrs Macron colors her hair.


39 posted on 01/07/2023 3:34:06 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: Hiddigeigei
You should see the USA-Frog loon let loose further down the thread.

I "have to prove" that I'm not a Russian plant.

    

40 posted on 01/07/2023 3:37:22 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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