Poverty alleviation in Russia has stagnated under Putin - in contrast China has reduced poverty (which was far more drastic than in Russia) at a far better rate
Heck, even India has reduced poverty far better than Putin has
Posted on 11/23/2022 7:25:01 PM PST by Nextrush
Poverty alleviation in Russia has stagnated under Putin - in contrast China has reduced poverty (which was far more drastic than in Russia) at a far better rate
Heck, even India has reduced poverty far better than Putin has
Nosewanking “I remember this” — standard Kremlin lies.
Do you guys learn this alinsky method at the start of your Kremlin training?
Who draws this graphics? The same idiots portraying Poland as a powerhouse even though it is a welfare state with budget deficit covered by France and Germany.
The ones drawing those graphics are not your folks in the Kremlin with their lies.
Putin is busy destroying your country, Russia.
Wait for the globalists to force your country into it and you’ll have a chance to attribute to the Russian economy. Mines or forestry more likely.
[Maybe the GAE should have spent tens of billions over the past decade to integrate Ukraine into Europe’s electrical and RR infrastructure, instead of spending billions to upgrade their military to NATO standards. Skip the Maidan Coup, keep Ukraine neutral, save 100,000+ lives, prevent this ongoing misery. But the GAE hated Russia more than they loved Ukraine.]
“As the scope of damage to Ukraine’s energy systems has come into focus in recent days, Ukrainian and Western officials have begun sounding the alarm but are also realizing they have limited recourse. Ukraine’s Soviet-era power system cannot be fixed quickly or easily. In some of the worst-hit cities, there is little officials can do other than to urge residents to flee — raising the risk of economic collapse in Ukraine and a spillover refugee crisis in neighboring European countries.”
Taking the emotion out of this, a difficult thing to do, given the hysteria, but failure to maintain power, water, heat to your population sounds like defeat.
It would normally degrade the offensive military capability if one was not gifted offensive weapons.
Assuming Ukraine had any chance to repel their invaders, at best they can achieve at this point is a Pyrrhic victory.
It will take adults, not impulsive name-calling children to save as many civilian lives as possible.
Saving lives, as many lives as possible, is a reasonable objective when you have failed to protect your homeland against an invader.
I think the casualties in Ukraine have yet to be tallied and will be shocking if the truth is ever allowed to be told.
The only decision left before surrender is how many more Ukrainians must die? I vote for fewer, but too many here want to kill more Ukrainians in hopes that somehow this doesn’t end in the way it is obviously going to end.
I agree with you. Another point to make is that Ukraine could have directed resources towards defending their nation from Russia over the past decade or two rather than present ineffective defense that they have done.
It would have been over by now if they were doing it themselves and weren’t propped up by free weapons from NATO.
Clearly NATO and Europe does not really care about Ukraine and cares even less about Ukraines civilian population.
You must hate Chuchill’s “We will never surrender” speech. You must hate the Spirit of ‘76 and those who fight for freedom at long odds.
Russia had a difficult time subduing Chechnya. Ukraine is over 30 times larger geographically. Did you notice that Ukraine just liberated a major metropolitan area? There is no reason for your Ukraine has no chance screed.
Imagine where some of the money and weapons have gone…
The globalists like Putin who creates chaos to ensure his friend Soros makes money?
The Russian economy is going down, thanks to your boss Putin.
Soon he’ll succeed in dismembering Russia - so you can thank Putin for that dismemberment of Muscowy
err.. have you seen a comparison between the map on March 24th
versus the map on November 23rd
That looks like they have grabbed the chance to repel the invaders - don't you think so?
You’ll mine uranium here before it happens.
“There is no reason for your Ukraine has no chance screed.”
The chances for Ukraine and it’s civilians are far less than Britain in the days of Churchill.
The defenses laid by Britain were far more serious than Ukraine.
Britain cared about its citizens not dying far more than the leadership of Ukraine does about its citizens.
Ukraine actually has no chance. Their hopes of an expanded conflict (their only chance before last week) were dashed when the missile strike in Poland was exposed as a hoax.
Now the only reasonable objective for Ukraine should be to preserve Ukrainian lives, but that will have to wait until the $50B “aid” package has been properly laundered and all the bribes paid. Then and only then will Ukraine seek peace. But they will soon after that. The leadership will be found in warmer climes at that point, because they want to enjoy their ill-gotten gains with their loved ones, while the rest of Ukraine is subjugated, freezing, and in the dark.
Is that clear enough for you?
Lastly, Zelensky is no Churchillian figure. He falls far short in every way.
Are you positing that this is close to the final map for this conflict?
“Another point to make is that Ukraine could have directed resources towards defending their nation from Russia over the past decade or two rather than present ineffective defense that they have done.”
But they did that for the past 8 years.
Prior to 2014, most Ukrainians were ambivalent about nationality. Only with Putin’s invasion did people start thinking of themselves as less “tutajsi” (we’re from here) and more in terms of nationality.
The tragedy for Russia is, that if they had used soft power - cultural and literary and been kind to its neighbor, it would have gotten Ukraine in its orbit quite nicely.
But that would have meant less polish for Tsar Putin
No. I don’t want to make predictions as things change so rapidly, but it does seem like Ukraine is going to get back the coastline to the sea of Azov — if circumstances favor them (a big if) - by February.
Russians don’t care enough about this war and as it hits closer and closer to home with more defeats by ukraine (a nation they looked down upon), they will be more disheartened.
This is not a defence of the motherland - Russians are having a hard time understanding “Hans, are we the baddies?”
I agree, don’t send money without attaching an accountant but keep the supply of equipment moving! The vast majority of Russian troops are very poorly equipped and supplied cannot/will not survive the winter. It sucks to be them!
I don’t disagree that there is tragedy all around, and that this conflict was not necessary. But here we are.
I am for preserving Ukrainian lives. Further combat with Russia increases the destruction and misery.
The West is not going to escalate this conflict. The opportunity was last week and we wisely chose not to do so.
After the $50B is stolen, we will have a window for peace.
This isn’t my thought, rather it is the thought of some military analyst I saw but cannot recall his name right now.
Russians do not look at maps of conquered lands in the same way as the US. If land serves no greater tactical purpose, they are not loathe to retreat from it and leave its recapture for later.
This analyst also claimed (unverified...could be wrong) that Ukraine paid a heavy price for this land as the Russians heavily bombarded the lands behind them as they withdrew and Ukrainian units advanced.
Your point about the “average Russian” not supporting the war is likely a good one, but difficult to quantify militarily in my opinion.
Just as in the US, what Americans want and what Americans get in the way of foreign entanglements diverges significantly.
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