[Travis McGee]

[Maybe the GAE should have spent tens of billions over the past decade to integrate Ukraine into Europe’s electrical and RR infrastructure, instead of spending billions to upgrade their military to NATO standards. Skip the Maidan Coup, keep Ukraine neutral, save 100,000+ lives, prevent this ongoing misery. But the GAE hated Russia more than they loved Ukraine.]

“As the scope of damage to Ukraine’s energy systems has come into focus in recent days, Ukrainian and Western officials have begun sounding the alarm but are also realizing they have limited recourse. Ukraine’s Soviet-era power system cannot be fixed quickly or easily. In some of the worst-hit cities, there is little officials can do other than to urge residents to flee — raising the risk of economic collapse in Ukraine and a spillover refugee crisis in neighboring European countries.”

[RFEngineer]

I agree with you. Another point to make is that Ukraine could have directed resources towards defending their nation from Russia over the past decade or two rather than present ineffective defense that they have done.

It would have been over by now if they were doing it themselves and weren’t propped up by free weapons from NATO.

Clearly NATO and Europe does not really care about Ukraine and cares even less about Ukraines civilian population.

[ganeemead]

"“As the scope of damage to Ukraine’s energy systems has come into focus in recent days, Ukrainian and Western officials have begun sounding the alarm but are also realizing they have limited recourse. Ukraine’s Soviet-era power system cannot be fixed quickly or easily. In some of the worst-hit cities, there is little officials can do other than to urge residents to flee — raising the risk of economic collapse in Ukraine and a spillover refugee crisis in neighboring European countries.”"

As Fats Waller might have put it, if that isn't losing, it'll have to do, until the real thing comes along...