Posted on 08/31/2022 4:21:46 AM PDT by 3RIVRS
There are a host of reasons why the Left is absolutely determined to force Americans out of their privately owned, gasoline-powered cars and trucks and into unreliable public transportation and costly Electric Vehicles (EVs), none of which have to do with “saving the environment.”
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From a political standpoint, Electric Cars can only be forced on Americans and Europeans if they are also forced on the rest of the world, and that won’t happen until Putin is replaced with a Western puppet (for starters), which is why the Ukraine War is so important to them - if Putin can be defeated in Ukraine, he’ll likely be driven out of power.
If not, he’ll continue to sell fossil fuels to the rest of the world, thereby making the US and Europe look like idiots trying to run our power grid without fossil fuels.
Whoa! Full size, half ton, four wheel drive at 38.6?! Dayum...
At optimal RPM the efficiency of diesel is king.
Imagine if regulations weren’t so anti diesel and they made diesel hybrids...
We've seen figures and ratings of 250+, perhaps 300 or more with some of the higher-end Teslas. Now they're even making purported "heavy-duty" pickup trucks.
They'll talk about the "impressive towing capacity" of these pickups, but what's the range when you have bags of cement in your bed? How far does that Tesla go when you have three suitcases, two backpacks and two passengers?
What about environmental conditions affecting your range? What if I'm traveling down I-65 toward Florida, and I have to go up and down some hills in Kentucky and Tennessee? Sure, downhill helps, but that's not always possible. What if the temperature is warmer and I need to run the AC? I do that today without thinking about it. What if it's 25 degrees out and I need to run the heater, defroster and the headlights? What if it's lightly raining and I need the windshield wipers? How about if I listen to the car stereo?
All of those things mentioned are going to negatively affect my battery charge. The range is the real story here--no one advertises it, no one refutes it. If you can only go 150 miles per full charge, that will greatly impact ability to travel (and be free), and I think that it the ultimate goal of the progressives touting these vehicles.
In the “rest” of the world, EV’s are the market sales leaders
With regard to EV’s, America is pretty far behind. I suspect that EV’s will never obtain the prominence here that they have in Europe, China and the pacific area.
In the USA, the Texas Giga factory is almost to the point where it will churn out hundreds of thousands of cars. And........guess what? there will be pickups and semi’s as well.
The Tesla’s noted do not satisfy the ruling providing a tax subsidy. As a matter of fact, few made by others do either
The market will decide the EV verdict.
You just described how, in the majority, our 2015 Ford Fusion Energi, a PLUG-IN hybrid, is designed and operates.
BLUF (bottom line up front): to me the ONLY vehicle for people who are not inside-the-perimter city-hive dwellers, and drive in the real world, and retain their freedom to travel at will, is the plug-in hybrid.
So how’s it work?
Electric motors drive the front wheels. AWD was never offered in the Fusion.
All four wheels generate electric power via the ‘regenerative braking and coasting’ model. the power from that is stored in the so-called low-energy battery.
As you are driving, the computer of the car constantly controls where it gets electricity from to operate the electric motor. When in general hybrid mode it runs the engine and discharges the small low-voltage battery, and charges it as well. This is typical of hybrid vehicle models; it’s a combo gas-electric drive system, whereas the locomotive is a diesel electric.
the Energi also has a ‘large’ high-voltage battery that you charge by plugging into a charge station. I forget the battery absolute capacity, but when new, it would operate the vehicle for about 25-30 miles in a fully electric mode. After that battery is exhausted/drained, the general hybrid model takes over. This is my wife’s car and she has a 12 mile round trip commute, so for her it’s essentially an electric daily-driver car, even at 7 years old. We also take this car on long over the road trips for two and average about 48.7 MPG lifetime mileage. The computer can tell us that figure.
To me this plug-in hybrid model is the optimum design, in that for 80% of driving, (local) it’s an (nearly) all electric vehicle, and for longer trips it’s a classic hybrid - with NO range anxiety, NO need for long re-charge stops.
Charge time at the house when she gets home is about 2.5 hours on a 30 AMP 240V hardwired Eaton charger.
Now that the vehicle is 7 years old, the aging high-voltage battery is at 12 miles fully charged. Turn key replacement of that high-voltage battery is $4500 (labor included). We haven’t done that yet. Gas has to be over $3.50 or so to make that cost a good investment.
*MY* vehicle is a 2012 F-150 crew cab Ecoboost that has been a flawless workhorse. And yep, it averages only 16.4 MPG ;-) It has extended range fuel tanks and CAN go nearly 700 miles if we needed it to.
“If they only had some power source right onboard the vehicle, to generate electrical power on demand, to drive the four individual electric motors, one on each wheel”
They do, its called a Hybrid. Not the plug in variety which gets you only about 35 miles electic range. Many of these Hybrids have an Atkinson 2 liter engine providing propulsion and electricity for the electric motors. Depending on the demand the two technologies work in tandem or the Atkinson by itself.
Question... for people living In The cities, in high rise apartments, or in project buildings, where are the charging stations gonna go?
I would imagine the wait for an available charging station in a parking garage will be tremendous wi4h everyone wanting to recharge when they get off work or whatever. (Not to mention the fact that the brown outs caused by massive increase in demand for electricity will cause even further delays I. Recharging)
China is the important one. They have very little domestic oil production, and that is a a major strategic and economic liability.
The only surprising thing is that Comrade Xi is slower to impose Marxist controls than Comrade Newsom.
I wish. But there are already plans by the big car companies to stop making gasers. So, the filling stations will start disappearing, too. If Uncle Sugar dictates "electric," electric it will be.
Let’s add another layer of fun on that: Let’s say that somehow they make it work at apartment complexes, highrises etc. Can you imagine a teen prank being to walk around after dark unplugging all of those cars?
and governments know the best way to screw the citizens is to takeaway their gasoline cars , they really get their kicks when that’s done
Undiscussed in the article is the economic problem of diminishing returns to scale and rising unit costs. For example, the supply of raw of materials used to produce batteries is even less responsive to demand than the supply of oil used to produce gasoline, which will cause rising production costs. As power companies attempt to expand the grid, the opportunity cost of devoting the locations used for the expansion to power generation will rise faster than the intended increase in generation.
That V10 diesel VW engine Was a disaster. It was unreliable. It was 309 hp with 553lb. ft. torque. By comparison our 6 cylinder cummins in our ram truck has 375 hp. And 900 lb ft. torque.
I have an ‘08 Nissan 4WD PU and I’m adding a 2016 F150 ecoboost twin turbo. I have at most about 15 years of driving time left, between the two vehicles I should be set for life.
EVs are for commies.
Here’s the real secret folks:
This isn’t about forcing people into electric vehicles. It is about forcing us out of cars altogether. Look closely.
The infrastructure to support EVs doesn’t exist - and it isn’t being built. The Powers What Is don’t plan to charge all that many EVs.
It would require twice the world’s current production of the materials required for the batteries for EVs, lithium, copper, nickle, cobalt, etc., to support those vehicles. The existing batteries are (currently) not recyclable. Their production and processing are destructive and toxic as is their disposal. There may not be enough of those materials accessible to build enough batteries to support a world of EVs.
So what is the actual plan? I suspect it is to cram the lot of us into urban hellholes. I also suspect it is for there to a lot fewer of us.
Lol, hadnt thought of that.
That’s the main reason why I don’t want an EV. It’s not just the range anxiety, it’s also that you have to cater to the needs of the car and its charging requirements. You can’t just stop anywhere you want, it has to be near charging infrastructure... that out of the way BnB? Sorry, can’t charge there.
When I travel, I want to be in complete control of my itinerary, not subject to my car’s needs.
Now our main car is a PHEV and I think this is where the sweet spot is. For short trips around town with a lot of stopping, starting, and idling, I’m pretty much on electric all of the time. I have a L2 charger in my garage so I can charge up fully in about 2 hours — easy to top off between errands.
But for a family vacation when I have kids, luggage, coolers and several thousand miles of driving, I just go like I would normally and gas up at any available station.
I think it’s the best of both worlds. If the industry was doing that, since PHEVs have smaller batteries you could probably build 3 or 4 of them at least for the same number of battery cells as would go into a fully electric vehicle, which would lower costs.
That is how a series hybrid vehicle is supposed to operate. You have an internal combustion engine that generates electricity, a battery for storage (usually much smaller than a pure EV) and electric motors drive the wheels and handle climate, electronics, etc.
From what I’ve read this might be great for local, in city fleet type vehicles (e.g. US Mail trucks, delivery trucks) as they generally are lower speed and hybrids do very well in stop-and-go city driving.
Since many Americans do high-speed freeway driving, I think most hybrids use a parallel design where both the engine and battery pack are connected to the transmission and can drive the wheels... at high speed, it’s mostly the engine providing the power while charging the battery and at low speeds the battery provides the efficiency boost.
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