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Short answer: We knew early on the disease impacted the elderly the most.
1 posted on 04/11/2021 1:07:14 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat
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To: CheshireTheCat

Before Trump talked about it on Jan 27th, 2020.


2 posted on 04/11/2021 1:09:46 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (.)
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We knew almost immediately...I think the home was in Washington State. We weren’t seeing it in young ones. Pediatricians would have been all over the place. They regularly tell us locally what’s happening.


3 posted on 04/11/2021 1:14:25 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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"The clustering of complications and death from Covid-19 among the elderly and chronically ill, but not children (there have been only very rare deaths in children), suggests that we could achieve the crucial goals of social distancing — saving lives and not overwhelming our medical system — by preferentially protecting the medically frail and those over age 60, and in particular those over 70 and 80, from exposure."

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Ummmm....stating the obvious, 'we' is highly subjective.

As well, the quote above was on the basis of facts which were clearly apparent by May 2020 and - though I never saw a single op-ed at the time - were words which literally mirror my own, almost word-for-word.

I'm so done with this shit.

6 posted on 04/11/2021 1:16:34 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/29/new-covid-19-death-raises-concerns-about-virus-spread-in-nursing-homes/


7 posted on 04/11/2021 1:18:23 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Doesn’t most disease/illness impact the elderly most, usually?


8 posted on 04/11/2021 1:19:46 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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Yeah I don’t know exactly when it was obvious, but I recall that the first major outbreak was in a nursing home in Seattle area. That’s pretty much what caused other governors to put quarantines on nursing homes sometime in March of 2020. I could be mistaken as to when “our betters” knew about it but that seems to be when it was widely reported and caught my eye.

Someone should fact check this, but I had read that the median age of death in the USA is around 78 years old, and the median age of death by covid is also 78 years old.


9 posted on 04/11/2021 1:24:48 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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Yes. The age profile was known from the very first reviews, from every country, China and Italy initially. The same age dynamic was found in every study or compendium of cases.


10 posted on 04/11/2021 1:28:35 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Medicare and Medicaid relaxed their regs to allow residential care facilities to refuse to take back sick patients in the middle of last March.

I’d say that’s a pretty good indication right there.


12 posted on 04/11/2021 1:38:10 PM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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Short answer: We knew early on the disease impacted the elderly the most.>>> And some democrat governors proceeded to murder a bunch of old folks.


14 posted on 04/11/2021 1:47:43 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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Outside of the old and the obese, COVID killed almost no one.


15 posted on 04/11/2021 1:59:03 PM PDT by montag813 ("Fallen, fallen, is Babylon the Great")
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My mom ( 80 years old) just beat Covid 19. Hit her hard but she pulled through. Considering she has COPD ( Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease) , along with a host of other issues, it was nothing short of a miracle.


16 posted on 04/11/2021 2:42:08 PM PDT by Fire137
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Here is a link from Feb 2020 on FR:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3817507/posts

Deadly coronavirus ‘kills 15 PER CENT of patients over 80’ and the never-before-seen strain is ‘up to 20 TIMES more infectious than SARS’


17 posted on 04/11/2021 2:53:28 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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We knew from the Diamond Princess what profile was most likely to have complications. They kept people imprisoned on that ship for weeks. There was no mystery in that in the slightest.

Japan buried a hell of a lot of it, but by March 15th, most of the data was in everyone’s hands. Anyone who tries to come up with some fiction that we didn’t know (probably to protect Cuomo’s pawing anything with two legs) is lying.


21 posted on 04/11/2021 5:46:44 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Our first data came from evacuee flights, a nursing home and a cruise ship (all with older people), and from Beijing lying thru their teeth, so our assumptions were sketchy at best. But, as of Dec 2020, CDC puts the death toll of those under 35 at around 4,000 souls (450/mo) and those 35-54 at around 30,000 souls (3,500/mo), with 35,000 souls claimed each month from the over-55 age bracket. (377,883 US deaths over 9 months between Mar 1 and Dec 31)

The first announced confirmed case was a young girl evacuated from Whuan on flight 2. The first confirmed case in a non-evacuee was Jan 21, Washington state, male, announced on Feb 29. On Feb 19, the first nursing home case tested positive. On Feb 26, an 80yo female from the same center also tested positive. These two deaths were announced March 3. On Feb 28, a high-schooler and a USPS worker tested positive. Feb 29th marked first ‘official’ death from CCPvirus, a 56-yo male. March 24 the first minor died.

New York only had 1 acknowledged case as of March 1, 2020. The first death of a minor was reported in Los Angeles on March 24. The CDC estimated in late March 2020 that almost 50% of those admitted to ICU were under 65: 12% were 20-44, and 35% were 45-64. Asymptomatics were calculated at 25%. The first public suggestion that the virus was airborne was March 30, 2020 headlines (Skagit Valley, WA choir).

In general the CDC first floated an all-age mortality rate of 3.4%, with other research saying 0.5 (Beijing figures) and the EU calculating 2.6% mortality. The CDC then corrected figures in late March 2020 to reflect 1.3%-2.6% all-age, and 6.4%-13% over-seventy mortality rates, with majority of deaths within 10 days of hospitalization. (This has since been adjusted over the past year; the advent of therapies and a better understanding of the virus leading to more positive outcomes)

February was the month Princess Cruises went into full quarantine and where a lot of our initial data was collected. On the Diamond Priness in Japan, the first seven deaths were all age 70 and above, with an age-group mortality of 9%. The CDC calculated the ship’s all-age mortality rate of 1.3-2.6%. The ship’s average tourist age was 58 and average crew age was 36. Of 697 testing positive, half (326) were still asymptomatic positives a month after the first positive test.

By Feb 2021, the ‘death bracket’ had dropped from over 70 to over 50, with 93% of deaths age 50 and older and 0.2 percent under 25. Or, according to the latest chart the CDC has cooked up, “Compared with 5—17-year-olds, the rate of death is 2 times higher in 0-4-year olds, 10 times higher in 18-29-year olds, 45 times higher in 30—39-year-olds, 130 times higher in 40-49-year-olds, 440 times higher in 50-59-year-olds, 1300 times higher in 60-69-year-olds, 3200 times higher in 70-84-year-olds, and 8,700 times higher in 85+-year-olds.”

cdc’s Feb 2021 chart:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html

deaths by age/race through Dec 2020 are broken out in a chart at this cdc link::
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm

memory lane: age groups of Princess Cruise infected:
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.12.2000256


24 posted on 04/11/2021 8:13:39 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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