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Leonard Susskind - Is the Universe Fine-Tuned for Life and Mind?
Closer To Truth Youtube Channel ^ | Jan 8, 2013

Posted on 07/02/2020 9:37:43 AM PDT by amorphous

Leonard Susskind interview - If the deep laws of the universe had been ever so slightly different, human beings wouldn't, and couldn't, exist. All explanations of this exquisite fine-tuning, obvious and not-so-obvious, have problems or complexities.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Chit/Chat; Reference; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: anthropicprinciple; leonardsusskind; space; stringtheory; susskind; universe
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To: Boogieman

Lol


21 posted on 07/02/2020 11:25:09 AM PDT by dp0622 (TRUMP!)
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To: BipolarBob

Which will lead to yet undiscovered universal constants equally unforgiving of variability.


22 posted on 07/02/2020 11:30:45 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: amorphous

“The Entity who brought the universe into existence must be a Personal Being, only a person can design with anywhere near this degree of precision


23 posted on 07/02/2020 11:46:16 AM PDT by wolfman
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To: Dave Wright

Why shouldn’t we consider string “theory” and the multiverse “theory” to be supernatural answers? They certainly don’t qualify as naturalistic science.


24 posted on 07/02/2020 11:54:33 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: amorphous

Well, you could be personally committed to an ideology if you are careful not to let it affect your work. Seems to be a dwindling phenomenon in the modern world though.


25 posted on 07/02/2020 11:57:01 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: wolfman
I AM THAT I AM
26 posted on 07/02/2020 12:03:04 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: Boogieman
If one begins with some theory; for instance, "there is no intelligent designer". But along the way, a preponderance of evidence indicates your original theory to be flawed, as a truthful person, or researcher, one would naturally point out, or accept, the inconstancy of their originally held belief.

And while faith plays an important role in our belief in God, it's not like faith is all we have to go on (at least in judea-christian text). Isaiah 46:10 "I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come." In other words, if God through prophets tell us of certain events which will occur, and they occur, while we don't understand how this is possible, it doesn't discount this phenomenon or supernatural event.

Supernatural is a word we use for anything we don't understand - and there is a lot, we as humans, don't understand.

27 posted on 07/02/2020 12:35:00 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: BipolarBob

Tel me about it- I’ve been Quantangled for centuries now


28 posted on 07/02/2020 1:52:19 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: amorphous
Boogieman: "Why shouldn’t we consider string “theory” and the multiverse “theory” to be supernatural answers? They certainly don’t qualify as naturalistic science."

Amorphous: "Supernatural is a word we use for anything we don't understand - and there is a lot, we as humans, don't understand."

Right, and the basic question here: where exactly is the dividing line between natural and supernatural?
Yes, there's an answer, but first we have to recognize that by self-definition, science cannot even accept the question as valid, much less answer it.

Science by definition can only deal with natural explanations of natural processes and so anything supernatural falls into the pervue of philosophy (ie metaphysics) & theology.

Sadly in today's world both philosophy and theology have been corrupted & diminished beyond almost all recognition.
Nevertheless we can still recognize the old term "God of the gaps" meaning "God" explains whatever science does not and so every year as many thousands of working scientists publish millions of peer-reviewed papers, the "gaps" and their "God" are inexorably reduced.

Of course, that's just nonsense, since God is not just God of what we don't yet understand,
He's also God of what we can never fully understand, beginning with all the basic "why" questions.

Does everyone not understand that ideas like "string theory" and "multiverse" are NOT theories?
They are not even valid hypotheses, they are simply flights of scientific fancy, whose only claimed virtue is they answer theological questions with allegedly "natural" explanations.

But there's nothing "natural" about mere words which correspond to zero observed facts.

So here is the answer I teased earlier: there is no dividing line between natural and supernatural, instead everything natural is infused with the Supernatural powers & design of our Creator.

Clear?

29 posted on 07/02/2020 3:31:17 PM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: amorphous
Life and Mind are fine tuned for the universe.

That in no way denies God, it merely expresses what came from what.

But in truth, time and sequence are illusions, as is cause.

Silly Mankind! Thinking God and the Universe are conceivable by the mind. Is the universe inside or outside your mind? The question is invalid.

It's like an eye trying to see itself.

Getting to God through the conceptual mind which divides reality into 10,000 pieces as its starting point for understanding anything is like trying to hear the sound blue makes. The question is invalid.

30 posted on 07/02/2020 3:44:39 PM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: Chaguito
Which will lead to yet undiscovered universal constants equally unforgiving of variability.

Doubtful. Variables are constantly springing forth creating more and more multi-verses or at least that's the Copenhagen interpretation. It's hard to nail down constants when in quantum physics when we are enveloped by quantum fields in a constant state of flux.

31 posted on 07/02/2020 4:38:05 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I told myself to stop drinking but thought "why should I listen to a drunk who talks to himself")
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To: Obadiah

My cat is a big proponent of string theory. He ponders it almost every day.


32 posted on 07/02/2020 4:48:07 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I told myself to stop drinking but thought "why should I listen to a drunk who talks to himself")
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To: BipolarBob

We’ll see...


33 posted on 07/02/2020 11:08:31 PM PDT by Chaguito
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