Posted on 03/13/2020 3:26:54 PM PDT by USA Conservative
President Donald Trump declared a national emergency on Friday, the most significant move yet by the U.S. government to head off the coronavirus outbreak.
Trump’s declaration came as many public and private institutions have taken action — including canceling major events, temporarily banning large gatherings, closing schools and telling people to work from home — in an effort to slow the spread of the virus.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average tumbled, soared, and then closed with a gain of 1,900 points after the emergency declaration. Wall Street had reeled Thursday afternoon after coronavirus fears drove the markets to their worst day since the Black Monday crash in 1987.
The United States as of Friday afternoon had 1864 confirmed or presumptive cases of the coronavirus, and the death toll climbed to 41.
Colorado announced its first coronavirus death on Friday, bringing the national death toll to 43. The current mortality rate in the US is 2.2%.
But everyone seems to forget that the fly took more lives, a lot more to be precise.
While health officials in the United States wait to see just how bad a public health challenge COVID-19 will pose, they still have to deal with an all-too-familiar challenge: flu.
It’s been a bad flu season. Not the worst ever, but bad.
“It started very early this year,” says Emily Martin, associate professor of epidemiology at the University of Michigan School of Public Health. She works with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention collecting statistics about flu.
This year’s flu season started picking up steam around Thanksgiving.
The CDC doesn’t test everyone who has flu symptoms to be certain they really have flu, rather than some other viral infection. Still, the CDC estimates are reckoned to be pretty accurate, and they are updated regularly.
There have been 222,000 confirmed flu cases in the US this season. And there have been 22,000 flu deaths this flu season.
There were 144 children who died from the flu this season.
This chart comes from the CDC. It shows weekly flu numbers and seasonal flu numbers.
This morning Dr. Anthony Fauci was on Fox and said that 80% of the people who get Corona will suffer little to no symptoms and return to good health rather quickly. The remaining 20% are generally older people or people with underlying health problems.
The problem becomes when the -Rate- of people being affected with serious (like bilateral pneumonia) conditions Exceeds the capacity of US hospitals to deal with it.
If that happens, the deaths skyrocket. So the Rate needs to be slowed down.
It’s, essentially, a lab-made common cold (with an HIVspike protein added on) that no one has ever had before. Across 3 large waves, nearly 6 billion people will catch this. Most will be just fine, But, they can go around wrecking the weak and old without realizing it.
So, by Slowing the Rate of infections, the number of serious (potentially fatal) cases, at any particular moment, becomes lowered .. potentially by as much as 95%.
Calm down people we gonna be just fine.
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Santa Clara Co, CA had the 1st “not accounted for by travel or contact with someone who travelled” case 2 1/2 weeks ago. Are there hundreds/thousands of “undocumented” “community spread” cases out there? Yes, most certainly, esp. with the very weak USA testing early in the outbreak. Are there 100,000 current cases in OH right now? Very doubtful, there are clusters in urban areas of Ohio, but not much in rural areas. My WAG: 3000-4000 cases in OH if you tested all 7 million Ohioians.
True -- for the wrong reason. The death rate of the regular flu this year in "confirmed" cases was almost 10%, much higher than Corona.
It's realistic possible that Corona is no more deadly than the regular flu. But, even if it is slightly more deadly, it's not going to kill half a million people and, since we're in March, it's not likely to kill 22,000.
Yeah, but where did those #’s come from? “Official” 2018-2019 season #’s here:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html
You don't know that. In country with a legitimate health care are the best testing -- South Korea -- the death rate in "confirmed" cases is a mere 0.7. And, even there the confirmed cases are a fraction of the actual number of cases.
This going half a million people in this country. Not even close.
Oops, sorry, I posted last year’s flu numbers, let me get the 2019-2020 numbers...
South Korea is one better example like Singapore. It’s not the only or best indicator.
So cherrypicking is of no help. Most likely 1% of the infected:
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca
We live two miles from the road and two miles from our nearest neighbor. Isolation is easy for us.
Yes we do, let it run its course or hospitalize if necessary........And in most cases as already reported, folks with the China Flu don't require hospitalizing........
South Korea is a lot more comparable to the US than China, Italy or Iran and you know it.
But that’s not in the MSM-Libtard agenda; it’s Trump’s handling of a non-event. So far.
So the current 2019-2020 flu season totals are hard to derive since the CDC/medical facilities only count pediatric flu fatalities during the season (144 so far). The CDC estimates the “total # of cases” only at the end of the season. Looking at the other data at the site linked below I get about 204,000 hospitalized so far this season (that is probably the # the author is using in the headline)...the total number of regular flu cases for 2019-2020 is yet to be determined, but the current case count is in the 10’s of millions not the low 100 thousands. Hospitilizations are in the low hundred thousands. See:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
“South Korea is a lot more comparable to the US than China, Italy or Iran and you know it.”
Actually, wrong. South Korea has been very aggressive in tracking down all virus contacts. The US isn’t even meeting that standard remotely.
So yeah, we’re not going to be that lucky.
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You got it!!
South Korea is urbanized dense, small, and with very modern infrastructure throughout. We look a lot more like Italy with its patchwork of developed and third-world areas.
death rate is calculated when all cases are in and reported. Corona is just begining to spread in the country and to compare it to this years flu, which is on a downward course for the year and has stats all in place, is useless.
When the corona is through all fifty states and many have been exposed, then a comparison would make sense.
Since Corona has started so late in the winter, I have no problem saying it won't kill as many as the regular flu.
The death rate, though, is the issue and that is comparable. And, the Corona death rate in South Korea isn't all that high. In fact, overall Corona confirmed case-to-death ratio is far less than the confirmed case-to-death rate for the flu this year in the US.
Being urbanized makes the spread of disease more likely, not less.
And, you're not claiming their health care system is better than ours, are you?
I’m assuming you believe the claims of the Ohio state governor that there are over 100,000 cases of this China flu walking around in his state?
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The governor has stated what he believes “may be” the number of Ohio citizens who have the virus, but the fact is he has no idea whether that estimate is accurate.
Based on what I have heard about most American cases, how do you know that I haven’t already had it? Sore throat and runny nose all week.
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