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1,864 COVID-19 Cases and 43 Deaths In US So Far, And We Have 222,000 Flu Cases and 22,000 Flu Deaths In US This Season
Conservative US ^ | 03.13.2020 | Natalie D.

Posted on 03/13/2020 3:26:54 PM PDT by USA Conservative

President Donald Trump declared a national emergency on Friday, the most significant move yet by the U.S. government to head off the coronavirus outbreak.

Trump’s declaration came as many public and private institutions have taken action — including canceling major events, temporarily banning large gatherings, closing schools and telling people to work from home — in an effort to slow the spread of the virus.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average tumbled, soared, and then closed with a gain of 1,900 points after the emergency declaration. Wall Street had reeled Thursday afternoon after coronavirus fears drove the markets to their worst day since the Black Monday crash in 1987.

The United States as of Friday afternoon had 1864 confirmed or presumptive cases of the coronavirus, and the death toll climbed to 41.

Colorado announced its first coronavirus death on Friday, bringing the national death toll to 43. The current mortality rate in the US is 2.2%.

But everyone seems to forget that the fly took more lives, a lot more to be precise.

While health officials in the United States wait to see just how bad a public health challenge COVID-19 will pose, they still have to deal with an all-too-familiar challenge: flu.

It’s been a bad flu season. Not the worst ever, but bad.

“It started very early this year,” says Emily Martin, associate professor of epidemiology at the University of Michigan School of Public Health. She works with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention collecting statistics about flu.

This year’s flu season started picking up steam around Thanksgiving.

The CDC doesn’t test everyone who has flu symptoms to be certain they really have flu, rather than some other viral infection. Still, the CDC estimates are reckoned to be pretty accurate, and they are updated regularly.

There have been 222,000 confirmed flu cases in the US this season. And there have been 22,000 flu deaths this flu season.

There were 144 children who died from the flu this season.

This chart comes from the CDC. It shows weekly flu numbers and seasonal flu numbers.

This morning Dr. Anthony Fauci was on Fox and said that 80% of the people who get Corona will suffer little to no symptoms and return to good health rather quickly. The remaining 20% are generally older people or people with underlying health problems.

The problem becomes when the -Rate- of people being affected with serious (like bilateral pneumonia) conditions Exceeds the capacity of US hospitals to deal with it.

If that happens, the deaths skyrocket. So the Rate needs to be slowed down.

It’s, essentially, a lab-made common cold (with an HIVspike protein added on) that no one has ever had before. Across 3 large waves, nearly 6 billion people will catch this. Most will be just fine, But, they can go around wrecking the weak and old without realizing it.

So, by Slowing the Rate of infections, the number of serious (potentially fatal) cases, at any particular moment, becomes lowered .. potentially by as much as 95%.

Calm down people we gonna be just fine.

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; chinavirusmortality; communityspread; coronavirus; coronavirususa; covid19; donaldtrump; flu; flumortaility; justtheflugarbage; panglossian; sarscov2; wuhansarscov2
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To: Reno89519

You’re too young to go
God bless


41 posted on 03/13/2020 4:12:34 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: HollyB
It really is doubling.

Is that more of a function of ramping up testing abilities?

42 posted on 03/13/2020 4:13:55 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: NoLibZone
Shut MSNBC, CNN down for two weeks.

Plus Tucker Carlson on Fox ...

43 posted on 03/13/2020 4:14:38 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: crusty old prospector

If you get it then be sure to tell us all how easy it went for you.


44 posted on 03/13/2020 4:14:47 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: Reno89519

“...Would self-quarantine if I could...”
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What’s stopping you?


45 posted on 03/13/2020 4:14:58 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: USA Conservative

That’s how these things work. The numbers are small at the beginning because so few have been exposed to the bug. The flu comparison is misleading because everyone in the population has already been exposed to flu viruses and is repeatedly exposed to them through his entire life. That is what is meant when people say the flu is endemic. Whereas the covid-19 bug is brand new to humanity* and only a minuscule number of people have been exposed relative to the whole. The numbers will rise to a point no one foresaw a couple of months ago. That is the meaning of the Italian death toll in recent days.

The health care system will be overrun in the first month or so of an epidemic. That is why China had a surge of deaths during that period. Countries don’t maintain large amounts of slack capacity in their health care systems, because that slack costs massive amounts of money, due to expensive facilities, equipment and staff. Once the scale of the epidemic becomes apparent, the government spends massively to meet the need for expanded emergency care. As patients start getting treated instead of turned away, the number of deaths starts to decline.

Italy is at the stage where they’re turning away non-virus related patients who are accident or stroke victims. And they’re turning away covid-19 patients over 65 with underlying health conditions. Not a real surprise that their death rates are high. Once newly appropriated emergency funds course through the Italian health care system, and new ICU beds become available to completely fill the need caused by this pandemic, the daily count of covid-19 deaths should start to fall. But that might take a month from now to fully play out, if the Chinese example is anything to go by.

What the Italian quarantine measures are attempting to do is slow the rate of infection to minimize the number of new infections while the Italian medical system is catching up to what the new funding provides for, in terms of ICU capacity. New facilities can be requisitioned and equipment can be manufactured quickly. Doctors and nurses don’t materialize out of thin air. It would not surprise me if cash bounties were posted for hiring trained personnel from other countries as well as for retired personnel to come back to work. Medical and nursing students might be drafted to help in order to ease the shortage of trained personnel. Half-trained but carefully filtered through a battery of tough admissions exams is better than untrained:

http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/clinical/clinical-specialties/infectious-diseases/government-is-considering-using-medical-students-to-help-in-coronavirus-outbreak/20040272.article

* Whether the bug is new to bats is a different question, but this may not matter, from the bats’ perspective - it’s like water rolling off a duck’s back. Apparently, bats have sort of unique immune systems due to the filthy conditions that they live in (caves that are knee deep in shit). Rather than fighting off viruses their immune system sort of calls a truce with them. Otherwise they would exhaust themselves in eternal battle.


46 posted on 03/13/2020 4:15:25 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: dfwgator

Is that more of a function of ramping up testing abilities?

*********

When we had no tests, we had no disease.

Then we had tests and we had disease.

The more tests we have the more disease we have.

Occam’s Razor: The tests cause the disease.


47 posted on 03/13/2020 4:16:01 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: USA Conservative

The US population has grown by over 180,000 people since the first COVID-19 case was confirmed here.

Not sure what it has to do with anything, but I heard someone say it. lol


48 posted on 03/13/2020 4:20:20 PM PDT by trublu
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To: SaxxonWoods

I certainly do have an idea. It’s far more contagious and problematic in mortality than influenza.

That’s well established.


49 posted on 03/13/2020 4:26:24 PM PDT by romanesq (8Chan & its child porn are kaput & all the crap with it. Trump-Pence 2020! Magacoalition.com)
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To: USA Conservative

We know how to treat the common flu. We do not know how to treat the Coronavirus. That is a rather significant difference.


50 posted on 03/13/2020 4:29:05 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: USA Conservative

Glad I’m not the only one who sees the facts. Couldn’t unseat Trump/turn America’s conservative agenda with floosy whatever her name is, Russian thing...nope couldn’t impeach him, so we invent an apocalypse. Not to make it Trump’s fault, but there has to be a way to destroy the good economy he brought forth. The liberals as so wicked there are no words.....


51 posted on 03/13/2020 4:29:55 PM PDT by sevinufnine
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To: Drago
2.5 weeks since “community spread”

How do you know that? How do you know that just maybe this China flu hasn't been active for the past several months? You don't know that nor does the government.......

Going off topic here, I'm assuming you believe the claims of the Ohio state governor that there are over 100,000 cases of this China flu walking around in his state?

52 posted on 03/13/2020 4:30:04 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (It's the China Flu and if you think you have it, take Zicam......)
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To: USA Conservative

I have an friend who is 70. She is a hoarder and lives in a moldy home (she told me, won’t allow anyone inside). Has had a vicious cough since I’ve known her. I’m inviting her out for Mexican and drinks tomorrow. I’ll sit front of the restaurant and completely enjoy myself. I am so upset about this crappy hysteria over something that is so common in this world. Maybe I shouldn’t go outside anymore because an airliner JUST MAY fall from the sky onto my head!?


53 posted on 03/13/2020 4:32:46 PM PDT by sevinufnine
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To: USA Conservative

> 222,000 Flu Cases and 22,000 Flu Deaths In US This Season

The flu death rate is not 10%. Something’s wrong with those numbers.


54 posted on 03/13/2020 4:33:19 PM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (Socialism requires slavery.)
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To: USA Conservative

I have an friend who is 70. She is a hoarder and lives in a moldy home (she told me, won’t allow anyone inside). Has had a vicious cough since I’ve known her. I’m inviting her out for Mexican and drinks tomorrow. I’ll sit front of the restaurant and completely enjoy myself. I am so upset about this crappy hysteria over something that is so common in this world. Maybe I shouldn’t go outside anymore because an airliner JUST MAY fall from the sky onto my head!? When it’s your time, it’s your time. That’s all there is to it. I refuse to live in manufactured fear.


55 posted on 03/13/2020 4:33:21 PM PDT by sevinufnine
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To: USA Conservative
If you want to keep the fatalities to something around 1000, then all the measures government and business are taking are warranted. If you want 10,000, then a response like that for the 2009 H1N1 Flu pandemic may be sufficient. But, we don't know if that 10,000 could end up much more.

Comparisons to seasonal flu are useless. Humanity has no built up immunity to this coronavirus. As of now, we don't have a vaccine. As of 2018, there were 51 million people in the US over the age of 65. 93 million over the age 55. Which of those do you want to pull the additional deaths from?

56 posted on 03/13/2020 4:36:27 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: All

It’s just arrived at our shores, Buckle up!


57 posted on 03/13/2020 4:38:59 PM PDT by Michigander222
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To: MeganC
Feel free to go shake hands with someone who has COVID-19 to prove to everyone else how silly and paranoid they are!

When you go out, if you go out these days, do you wear a Hazmat suit?

58 posted on 03/13/2020 4:39:16 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Drago
-- Not sure where you got those #'s ... --

They are in the title of this thread. " ... We Have 222,000 Flu Cases and 22,000 Flu Deaths In US This Season"

59 posted on 03/13/2020 4:39:58 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: USA Conservative
But everyone seems to forget that the fly took more lives, a lot more to be precise.


60 posted on 03/13/2020 4:40:04 PM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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