[Innovative]

You are making excellent points.

Unfortunately some people don’t want to face reality.

Trump is doing an excellent job.

Unfortunately, many Republicans in Congress talk like conservatives at election time, but once elected they don’t fulfill their promises.

We need to support Trump, to help him accomplish what he wants to do.

[kjam22]

He should have taken a couple or three days, split 2200 pages up between staff members, and made an informed decision. Signing a bill he hadn’t read ...... he should resign if that’s the best he can do. Veto it and let them over ride you if that’s what they want to do. What he did was not 4D chess. It was BS

[PTBAA]

Depends on how you define “win”. Could he realistically stop this Porkulus from going through? Probably not.

Could he have made the border wall a condition of his signing and forced the Swamp as going on record as being against border security, energizing his base for the 2018 elections? Absolutely yes.

Let me ask you: what new constituency has he won and who has he energized with his decision to cave and sign this?

[Telepathic Intruder]

I’m sure many think we should have let Hillary win. I mean, if you can’t have 100% of your goals, might as well settle for 0%. Then, you won’t have to say “I voted for the 10% I didn’t like”.

[dynoman]

Watch the video;

President Trump Participates in a Bill Signing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZK9SwI2nyc

Read what DarthVader has to say on this thread;

Trump Signs Federal Spending Bill Boosting NEA, NEH Arts Funding Despite De-Funding Threats
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3642138/posts

[joesbucks]

I only say he should have vetoed it to point out that he didn’t because throughout the process, he had his team on the hill moving it through congress. Pence was praising it on the day before it was signed. He sold out. Pure and simple. But had he, it either would have been sent back and reworked or vetoed which would mean congress would own it.

[Trump.Deplorable]

I posted this in a thread yesterday

I ask, How do we expect one man to fix everything?

We could not even get a republican elected in PA-18

Nor one in the Senate in Alabama

We are failing HIM

not the other way around.

Everyone around him betrays him

He has that Mueller looking to throw him in jail

A media that wants him dead

An opposition party that wants him dead

A couple past their prime whores who want to destroy his marriage

People are sending his family death threats and mystery powders

He has endured more then any other political figure on the planet has ever gone through.

Maybe this wasn’t the hill to die on? He did not like the bill, nor wanted the bill but really, wasn’t much choice. A veto would have gotten over ridden anyways. Maybe he has something else up his sleeve or maybe he doesn’t want to be president anymore. I don’t blame him. If I was 70+ year old Billionaire, the last thing I would want to do is be in politics. I don’t know. I am disappointed, but I am going to stick with him and will vote (R) in primaries and the general.

The media, democrats and the GOPee want us to drop support of him. They want us to sit home. They want us to be mad, so why give it to them?

[miss marmelstein]

Run that by me again - the part about sending my kids to government schools and not showing up at town halls or local council meetings.

[PubliusMM]

A Veto would have pushed this piece of legislative effluent back to the House and Senate. They would have an opportunity to override the veto.

The outcome? Override successful? Nothing changes from what we have today...DJT can slow walk the disbursements, redirect funds, and all the other things Zero did while operating on ‘Omnibus’ bills rather than true budgets. PLUS, people would see he’s serious about the planks of the platform that got him elected.

Override NOT successful? The RINO’s and libturds would be shown, once again, as the cowardly moral relativists they truly are.

Veto was a WIN/WIN for DJT.

[familyop]

Here’s the President’s situation more specifically defined.

* Each of the houses of Congress very nearly had enough votes for a veto override.

* Congress went to break. That would have shut down the government, until they went back in session, turning more government-sucking voters, including government-supported Republican voters, against the President.

* After returning, they would have gotten the very few extra votes they needed for an override.

That’s how it works. And yes, many members of Congress did that for well over 40 million government-connected people who don’t want any spending cuts. They did it for enormous sums of money they’ll get for campaigns from the lobbies for the associations representing those people.

If, for example, you want to focus mostly on preserving your Second Amendment rights, join the NRA. There’s a lobby that’s been fighting for us. It easy, doesn’t cost much, and you get some cool stuff that’s worth more than the membership fee.

There are also organizations that will fight for your other rights and will use the same kind of influence that the government employees and contractors have been using to get what they want (higher pay, more control over the rest of us, etc.).

[familyop]

And if you want to keep Mr. Trump as our President and don’t want him to be impeached, make sure that Democrats don’t get control of the House of Representatives in the midterm elections this year. At least vote. Better yet, campaign in your locale. Speak. Pass leaflets with memes on them around.

[Responsibility2nd]

If I may, let me summarize what I’ve seen Trump critics say in the last 24 hours.

Impeach Trump. We would be better off without him. I am not voting in the mid terms. I am done with Trump from this point forward. I’m sorry I ever supported Trump in the first place. Trump is a bitter disappointment. Blah, blah blah.

I have yet to see, to be honest and fair, anyone say “I wish Hillary was president instead”. But for crying out loud, they may as well come out and say that with the whiny attitude that they are taking about this omnibus bill.

[Alberta's Child]

To me, the only thing he did wrong was try to explain it away. He looked like a simpering weakling for the first time in his adult life.

[TTFlyer]

In a nutshell:

Vote for Trump - vote for GOP scum: Trump loses.

Vote for Trump - do NOT vote for GOP scum: Trump loses.

Therefore the GOP is the problem.

Who put the GOP scum into power? The voters. Who will vote the GOP out come November? The voters. People do not like being lied to.

Whether or not Trump becomes a Lame Duck come November is an open question.

[HotHunt]

I agree with you.

Trump is not an ideologue. He's not a hard-core conservative and can seem outright liberal at times.

But give him a break. He's a businessman at heart and not a politician. That is a good thing. That is why we elected him, because he's different.

If some think we elected a true conservative, think again. While Trump has done a tremendous amount of work undoing what damage Obama did during his 8 years, he's never claimed to be a true conservative.

He has done some things better than Ronald Reagan but why do conservatives insist on purity in their leaders? No one is like that. If they were, they probably wouldn't be electable.

Trump is doing a great job. Give him credit. The Heritage Foundation says that Trump had accomplished 90% of his campaign promises in his first year in office. This is unprecedented in presidential history.

We should count our blessings and stop complaining we didn't get everything we wrote to Santa about that we wanted for Christmas.

Trump has enough problems fighting off the horde from the Deep State Swamp and his own party. He doesn't need his back left unprotected and exposed by fair-weather supporters, who want to bail on him at the slightest shift in the wind.

Trump is the only man for this job at this point in time in our country's history. Is Trump perfection? No. Is he exceptional? Yes, absolutely.

[spel_grammer_an_punct_polise]

I read on another thread yesterday that this ‘bill’ is NOT a budget. It is an Omnibus and that Trump can spend the money as he sees fit. Additionally, there is nothing that Congress or anyone else can do about it if he chooses to spend the money where he wants to spend it.

It seems that Obemba did the same thing.

I would like to discover if this is true about the Omnibus. Who would know?

[sargon]

This incident has just provided another opportunity for more latent #NeverTrumpers to expose themselves.

President Trump is in the midst of fighting off a Deep State coup attempt, for God's sake—and weak-minded sunshine patriots say they're now going to withdraw their support? What an absolute joke;this is an utter failure to keep things in their proper perspective.

JimRob himself has stated that #NeverTrump clowns are not welcome on FR. I share that sentiment.

Anyone who has formally withdrawn their support for President Trump as a result of signing this 6-month spending bill is now a newly minted #NeverTrumper—by their own admission and declaration.

There are many sites around the internet where Trump-bashers—who have now abandoned the President—can self-indulgently engage in their circle jerks of #NeverTrump banter. I daresay that FR isn't one of them.

To reiterate: make no mistake. If you've abandoned your support for President Trump as a result of this incident—and several Freepers have made such statements—you're now a #NeverTrumper. If you don't support President Trump going forward, what else could you be?

I disagreed with the President signing this bill—but he still has my support. Therein lies the difference. Others have now chosen the #NeverTrump path. There is no middle ground. Everyone can disagree with the President on this issue or that, but—in general—you're either with President Trump, or you're against him. You're either with President Trump, or you're #NeverTrump.

There's a God d-mn coup on! Against that backdrop, one sh-tty 6-month spending bill pales in comparison. Those who are toying with the sunshine patriot game need to put down the #NeverTrump crack pipe and get a grip on objective, practical reality.

Again, I'm not talking about those who are angry with the President—I'm talking about those who have joined the #NeverTrump ranks by formally declaring the withdrawal of their support for the man moving forward. They know who they are, and they should be ashamed of themselves...

[axxmann]

1. Veto.
2. Government “shuts down” and non-essential (approx. 15%) employees go home.
3. Leave it shut down and no back pay...automatic 15%+ real cut in discretionary spending.

What real-world entity has “non-essential” employees, anyway.

[TomGuy]

The problem is who else would be any better? Certainly none of the 15 or so he defeated in 2016. And any other ‘outsider’ would face the same deep state/establishment opposition.

Yet, 75% of the voters will vote for the incumbent House and Senate candidates ‘representing’ their states, as they vote for the same and expect a different result.

And most assuredly, the Dem nominee will be one of the Leftist Progressive Radicals.

[drypowder]

Trump signed it for the industrial military complex SWAMP. He should have vetoed it and let Congress own it.