Posted on 02/12/2018 3:57:10 AM PST by harpygoddess
It has long been a grave question whether any government, not too strong for the liberties of the people, can be strong enough to maintain its existence in great emergencies.
~ Lincoln
February 12 is the anniversary of the birth of the 16th - and arguably the greatest - president of these United States, Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865). Born in Kentucky and raised in Illinois, Lincoln was largely self-educated and became a country lawyer in 1836, having been elected to the state legislature two years earlier. He had one term in the U.S. Congress (1847-1849) but failed (against Stephen A. Douglas) to gain election to the Senate in 1856. Nominated by the Republican party for the presidency in 1860, he prevailed against the divided Democrats, triggering the secession of the southern states and the beginning of the Civil War. As the course of the war turned more favorably for the preservation of the Union, Lincoln was elected to a second term in 1864, but was assassinated in April 1865, only a week after the final victory.
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And the deliberate twisting of the 14th is adding tens of millions of fraudulent voters.
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THINK - Without the United States remaining united how could that have changed the outcomes for WW I & II? Much more for the worst of outcomes I fear even though Reagan and Trump may only be delaying the inevitable...
Winston Churchill once said, "The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." Never is that more obvious than when dealing with diehard Confederacy supporters.
I wish I had photos of old RT 40 to Cumberland.
Used to be the only way to get there, before I68 went in.
Not only were there potholes deep enough to break the front end off your bike, there were saplings growing on the center line.
In an odd, post-apocalyptic way, it was really cool to drive that road.
They’ve since “fixed” it, more or less, at least to the point where you don’t have to dodge shrubbery.
Using a quote from a guy who didn’t believe in the constitution is probably not the best way to make a point.
Even still, the votes they got after aren’t enough to affect that large change. That happened later.
still the United States. The United States that help defeat the Kaiser in WWI. The United States that helped extinguish the Nazi Regime and the Japanese Empire. The same United States that sent a man to the moon. That United States
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And consider me "severely corrected". At least what passes for it in the land of Confederacy supporters.
Now militarily: look at the map in post #52 above.
Confederates claimed & fought for several Union states & territories.
In what conceivable way was that not a threat?
As for "mass bloodshed", that was the Confederates' choice and they refused to stop fighting on any terms better than "Unconditional Surrender".
That's just stupid, regardless of your opinion of Lincoln.
By Democrats!
Democrats always use or twist the laws to benefit themselves, it's their nature, it's how they make their livings.
IF Germany had won the Great War, or not been subject to sanctions, then there would not have been a WWII. The US involvement kind of caused WWII in a way.
A voluntary union, no more.
Lincoln did more to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution than anyone of his time, or, arguably, since.
"Even still, the votes they got after arent enough to affect that large change. That happened later."
Lincoln did support the 13th Amendment and there's no reason to suggest he would not also have supported the 14th & 15th, had he lived.
Call it what you will, but anyone willing to kill hundreds on thousands of Americans to consolidate power in DC is no friend of the constitution or freedom.
The would have still been a United States even if the South had gained its Independence.
It lost.
For some reason Monty Python comes to mind heh.
That sounds surreal. Somethimg you’d expect to see on an old mountain logging road no longer in use.
The 16th Amendment passed nearly 50 years after Lincoln's death!
Not Lincoln's fault.
You might as well blame President Madison, since he also supported an income tax proposal during the War of 1812.
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