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Joy Reid Tears Into Pastor Mark Burns For Defending Roy Moore: ‘Aren’t You a Moral Leader?’
Mediaite ^ | November 18, 2017 | Justin Baragona

Posted on 11/18/2017 11:20:24 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Remember Pastor Mark Burns? He’s the black Trump-supporting pastor who tweeted out a cartoon of Hillary Clinton in blackface. Following that firestorm, he memorably walked out of a CNN interview last September after he was confronted over exaggerating and lying on his bio.

Well, he’s back, as he’s been tasked with appearing on TV to defend Alabama GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore in the wake of the teen sex abuse scandal. And as you’d imagine, his appearances have been off the rails.

This morning, he showed up on MSNBC’s AM Joy and really got into it with host Joy Reid. Appearing as part of a panel to discuss the latest allegations against Moore — the ex-judge is now being accused by at least eight women — Burns noted that morality” wasn’t the only quality that makes a good leader,” seemingly giving Moore a pass regarding the allegations.

“Hold on just a second. One moment, hold on, hold on,” Reid exclaimed. “I’m going to let you back in. You’re not a lawyer, you’re not a judge. You’re not here to judge whether or not in a court of law Roy Moore would be found guilty after nine women accused him of sexually molesting children.”

She continued, “We have you on because you’re a pastor. What your job is, in theory, is to provide a moral framework for the people who go to your church and listen to you. How can you say that in your moral framework, you’re not here to adjudicate the case, but you’re saying that morality is not the only important thing. Aren’t you a moral leader? Like isn’t that what you’re supposed to be advocating for, for moral leadership?”

According to Burns, his job as a pastor if an accuser came to him to be counseled is “to first discover what do we need to do to start the healing process within that individual.”

“Roy Moore isn’t asking for redemption or healing,” Reid snapped back. “He’s denying he did it.”

After Burns responded that right now we need to ask ourselves if the women are more credible than a person who has been in public service for many years, an incredulous Reid asked him if he was saying he didn’t find the accusers credible.

“I do find the fact that Roy Moore has served faithfully for over 40 years publicly in public office and these women had plenty of opportunity, plenty of opportunities, Joy, to come out and it is suspicious,” he said. “I think the great people of Alabama are realizing that, which is why the majority of Alabamians are still going to vote for Roy Moore, even the governor, even the women that stepped up and said we’re still supporting Roy Moore, because their understanding, it is extremely suspicious that this is all coming out after he’s become the candidate.”

Reid turned to Republican strategist Sarah Rumpf to respond to Burns saying that Moore should be believed because the women accusing Moore aren’t well-known or famous, causing Burns to object to the way Reid was framing his position. Reid and Rumpf informed him that he had his chance and it was now Rumpf’s turn to talk.

“The idea that we’re going to discredit these women because they don’t have the prominence of Roy Moore,” Rumpf stated. “That is how Roy Moore and Harvey Weinstein and Bill O’Reilly and all the rest of these predators have been getting away with it for so long because they were in a position of power and the women were afraid of social and professional and cultural consequences.”

“That’s not what I said,” Burns objected.

Watch the whole heated exchange above, via MSNBC.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Politics; Religion; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: alabama; moore; slander; television
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To: Arthur McGowan

HANNITY BLEW IT BIG TIME!!

However, I will say Judge Roy Moore should have told Hannity - he had to admit dating a teen girl on multiple occasions!

Judge Moore then should have told Hannity, even with the age disparity, how much he enjoyed dating the teen girl and how beautiful she was, and stated how much he fell in love with her even before he took her on dates, and he had not been able to get over her! Then offered to disclose to Hannity and the world the girls name!

However, Roy Moore should then have requested a PRESS CONFERENCE to admit his guilt with a teen girl!

AND then named his daughter Heather Moore!


21 posted on 11/19/2017 1:31:01 AM PST by patriotfury (May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tent!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am sure Joy Reid would highly approve of this workshop for young people. In case you haven’t seen the post, go here.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3606129/posts


22 posted on 11/19/2017 1:34:27 AM PST by jazzlite
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To: calenel

LOL!

23 posted on 11/19/2017 1:42:21 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Watch the whole heated exchange above, via MSNBC.”

No thanks. I wouldn’t waste the electricity, or the wear and tear on my smart phone.


24 posted on 11/19/2017 3:11:45 AM PST by Tucker39 (Read: Psalm 145. The whole psalm.....aloud; as praise to our God.)
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To: patriotfury

That is why we call them the stupid party. And only one accusation was underage. Not all 8. Stupid is as stupid does.


25 posted on 11/19/2017 3:19:01 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now there are 8???!!

I was only aware of 5.


26 posted on 11/19/2017 3:41:39 AM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberal critics are quick to march out the Fascist vitriol against Christians because they do not have a clue what Christ taught. Look who Christ chose to be his original disciples, those who he entrusted to establish Christendom. They were far from faultless, blameless individuals, yet he chose them because he knew they would faithfully represent him and bring forth his message to the world. Liberals are hypocrites who will defend the most outrageous, extreme, liberal transgressions to the bitter end, but rush to judgment to condemn much lessor behavior by their adversaries.


27 posted on 11/19/2017 3:42:59 AM PST by iontheball
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To: KC_Conspirator

Conspirator wrote:

Besides the fact that this is all made up lies and forgery as far as we can tell.

Despite that fact that it has been uncovered that two of his accusers are working for the Perversion Party and that their accusations are false and politically motivated. The drivebys and the nevers media are not reporting this but are mentioning one accuser is a “Republican” .

Here is background on 4 accusers. One works for the perverts that one knows the one who claimed she was 14. But was actually 17 at the time ? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3603606/posts
Latest charge : Grad book signature a forgery; http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3604591/posts
someone named Roy or Ray signed it Moore’s last name was added to it. His legal secretary at the time he was a Circuit Court Judge declared it a forgery because her initials; DA, appear with his signature in that year book. Because she would do so to verify his signature only on his court rulings.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3605761/posts


28 posted on 11/19/2017 4:07:29 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin (not related to poster))
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To: KC_Conspirator

It doesn’t matter. To Reid, Moore is male, conservative and white. That is all that is required for a guilty judgement.


29 posted on 11/19/2017 5:00:42 AM PST by Redleg Duke (He is leading us in Making America Great Again!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gosh - I guess Joy considers herself a paragon of moral virtue -— the lies they have to tell themselves to keep from committing suicide....


30 posted on 11/19/2017 5:06:35 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One reply I can think of just from looking a the title is: As a reporter isn’t it your duty to seek the truth rather than pick a side?


31 posted on 11/19/2017 6:44:11 AM PST by reed13k
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

and let’s not leave out the other panelist, Sarah Rumpf - die hard never trumper who worked on Evan McMullin’s so-called campaign..

“Sarah Rumpf, a former Breitbart contributing writer who’s joined Evan McMullin’s presidential campaign this year out of disgust for Trump.”
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/1/13407844/republican-civil-war-trump-loses


32 posted on 11/19/2017 6:56:30 AM PST by Chickenhawk Warmonger (Obama Lied & Americans Died)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the ugliness is in her, thats why she can define it as she’s chosen.


33 posted on 11/19/2017 7:20:30 AM PST by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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To: mulligan

Had to do a search. Never heard of her until the past few weeks. Apparently, she’s MSNBC’s latest “black woman” talking head.

She culturally appropriates white woman hair by straightening hers.


34 posted on 11/19/2017 7:49:13 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: mosesdapoet
I also understand that said yearbook slanderer said she never saw Moore again, yet Moore presided over her divorce 12 years later. Many suspect that she lifted Moore's signature off her divorce papers, not realizing that the "DA" is the signature was his assistant who verified his documents.

In addition, Gloria Allred needs to be disbarred over this.

35 posted on 11/19/2017 9:24:35 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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