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The Myth of the Peaceful Woman by outofthedarkness
Sarah A. Hoyt ^ | August 9, 2017 | outofthedarkness

Posted on 08/11/2017 12:12:22 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There’s a persistent trope in science fiction and fantasy about a society consisting solely of women. It’s a peaceful and prosperous society, free from all violence. There may be some female warriors, who are somehow better than all male warriors everywhere despite having no real pressure or battles to harden themselves on. As a female reader with a strong taste for rational thinking, I am begging authors to stop doing this. Every female over the age of seven knows that a planet full of only women would not be peaceful. Every female Odd will picture this situation as The Special Hell. Allow me to explain the matter for anyone confused as to what this situation would actually look like.

Female social structure is completely different from male social structure. Men tend to organize in a hierarchy of sorts. There’s one guy at the top, a few guys he trusts underneath him, etc. downward until you reach the guys that are on the bottom of the pile. The structure makes sense. It’s efficient, everyone knows who’s in charge, and it’s largely based around the individual. Someone can rise or fall in this hierarchy based on any number of things, but their position is usually pretty clear from the outside looking in.

Female social structure is more fluid. It’s based more on group identity than on individual characteristics. You tend to have one woman who is kind of in charge, your queen bee as it were. Those in her favor circle around her, and the circles continue outward until you have the women who are not part of the group. They aren’t at the bottom of the pile, they pretty much don’t exist. At least, if they’re lucky they don’t. One’s position in the social hierarchy can change at any time, to include who the queen bee is. Remember the scene in Mean Girls where Regina tries to sit at the lunch table with the other plastics but isn’t wearing the right color clothes? She was just knocked out of her position in the social hierarchy.

In a social structure like this, there’s no room for difference of opinion or people who stand out too much. If an individual, even by noncompliance, threatens the group identity; she will gain the ire of the entire group. They will hunt her without mercy until she complies with the demands of the group, is removed from their reach by either death or physical distance (which is getting much harder with the internet), or manages to win enough females to her side to either form a new group around her or replace the existing leader. The last option allows her to push her standard on the group as a whole. There is no option to live and let live. In other words, female social structure is closer to the Borg than the complex world we currently enjoy.

I can already hear the cries of, “But women aren’t violent!” If you’re talking about direct violence, you’re mostly right. Women are not men, and we don’t hunt in the way that men do. Our weapons are usually words and emotions, not direct violence. Instead of a brawl in which two people fight it out and determine which is the strongest, you’re looking at extreme emotional abuse for anyone who is outside the group and unlucky enough to have their attention. Emotional abuse attacks a person in the most deeply personal of ways, and the scars it creates are more damaging than the physical scars of a beating. We wonder why girls who stand out grow so bitter, but if you’re a little too pretty or a little too different, other girls swarm on you and rip you apart with constant emotional abuse. They attack who you are at the base of your being, your very self-perception. This is why you see truly beautiful women who struggle to see their worth. Other girls have been ripping into them since the nursery, and it only gets worse as they get older. Boys court you and try in their awkward boyish way to get your attention, but you’re mostly convinced that it’s a cruel joke they’re playing on you, because of course you aren’t pretty or smart or special. The scars run deep and never fully heal.

However, physical violence is not out of the question either. Female genital mutilation is a very physical violence that is inflicted on women, mostly by other women. It is not unique to or even required by Islam, the religion we think of most on this issue. It’s tradition, and women will inflict this on their daughters and granddaughters quietly in dirty back rooms with rusty and unsterilized razor blades if the society they live in declare it to be illegal. If enough women decide to mob on some unfortunate outside their group, they may well turn physically violent and the beating will not stop once the point is made. It will stop when the target of their wrath is dead or nearly dead. Women don’t really have much of an “off switch” when we move into physical violence out of anger.

So what would a world made up totally of women really be like? It would be tyrannical beyond belief. No one would be willing to speak against the accepted narrative unless they were willing to be unpersoned or killed. Think of a mix between 1984, the very worst social aspects of socialist regimes, and the Borg. There would be constant pushing for position, usually by starting whisper campaigns or setting someone above oneself up to be badly embarrassed. Look at the SJWs of today’s world and see how they operate. That’s what it would look like, writ large across the entire planet. They attack anyone outside the group who doesn’t comply with their demands, and if someone inside the group says a single word out of line according to the ever-shifting standards the entire group turns on them without mercy. The only way to get back in their good graces is to loudly proclaim your “sin” and accept their abuse until they get bored of you. Even afterward, you’ll forever be “tainted” with the sin of noncompliance.

When you write your books and send them out into the world, please stop writing women as soft, cuddly pacifists. We aren’t. Kipling was completely right about the female of the species being the more dangerous sex. He was also right about the price of letting women control society. If any thinking individualist finds themselves in a society run by women, may God have mercy on their souls because those women will have none at all.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: cliques; conformity; girls; outcasts; scifi; tyranny; utopia; women
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All-femal society: the high school clique writ large, apparently.
1 posted on 08/11/2017 12:12:22 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If she works at Google, she’s fired!


2 posted on 08/11/2017 12:20:30 PM PDT by robroys woman
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

True dat.


3 posted on 08/11/2017 12:35:59 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

‘The Female of the Species’

http://www.potw.org/archive/potw96.html


4 posted on 08/11/2017 1:04:48 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hell on earth.


5 posted on 08/11/2017 1:09:10 PM PDT by usmom
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hell on earth.


6 posted on 08/11/2017 1:09:20 PM PDT by usmom
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It would be interesting to get her take on School of Darkness, an autobiography which in part dwells on experiences with such a queen bee at the college she attended that used her influence to create more communist.


7 posted on 08/11/2017 1:14:02 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

E. E. Smith, in the “Lensman” series of science-fiction novels, got the female-dominated planet perfectly. It wasn’t pretty.


8 posted on 08/11/2017 1:15:36 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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9 posted on 08/11/2017 1:15:49 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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"Houston, Houston, do you read?"

The story portrays a crew of three male astronauts launched in the near future on a circumsolar mission in the spaceship Sunbird. A large solar flare damages their craft and leaves them drifting and lost in space. They make repeated attempts to contact NASA in Houston, to no avail. Soon, however, they begin to pick up strange radio communications.

They are puzzled that almost all of the voices are female, usually with a strong Australian accent. They overhear conversations about personal matters (including the birth of a cow) as well as unknown slang terms. Various theories are discussed by the perplexed astronauts: hallucinations? A hoax? A hostile power trying to trick them? They record and play back the conversations over and over, trying to figure out what is going on. Soon, they realize that these unknown people are aware of them and are offering to help.

At first, the Sunbird's commander refuses to communicate with them, suspicious of their motives. As they continue to plead with the astronauts to accept their rescue offer, the men are chilled to hear their mission referred to in historical terms. They come to realize that they were not only thrown off-course in space, but in time as well, and that their flight was lost centuries ago. They are given bare details of the current Earth: an undefined cataclysm has reduced the human population to a mere few million. Eventually, the Sunbird agrees to rendezvous with the spaceship Gloria to allow the astronauts to spacewalk to safety.

The Gloria is an enigma to them. Besides having an almost all-female crew, the ship is haphazard and cluttered with plants and animals on board. The technology used on the ship does not appear to them to be as advanced as they would have thought the world to be after such a long passage of time, and they think it odd that some of the ship's functions are powered by stationary bikes. Their culture shock is compounded by the cryptic and incomplete answers they are given concerning the Earth.

Little by little, the three gather clues from both observations and slips of the tongue. While crew members often refer to their "sisters," there is no mention of husbands, boyfriends, or families. There are twins on board (both named Judy), yet one seems older than the other. The one male, a teen named Andy, seems strangely feminine. Technology, and science and culture in general, seems to be relatively unadvanced considering the centuries that passed.

Eventually, they learn the truth. A plague wiped out most human life, including all males. Only about 11,000 women survived, mostly concentrated in Australasia and a few other areas. Until recently, they reproduced only by cloning, so most women are clones of the original 11,000 genotypes. Babies are raised communally in crèches, and all members of each genotype are encouraged to add their story to a book that is passed on for the inspiration and education of future "sisters." Certain genotypes are given early androgen treatments (hence, Andy, who the astronauts thought was male) to increase bulk and strength for physical tasks. The resulting communal male-free society has settled into a peaceful pattern — without major conflict and seemingly happy.

The Sunbird's crew react to these revelations in different ways. The commander considers this to be a great tragedy, and believes he was chosen by God to subjugate the women to their intended roles and lead them back to the true path with men as leaders of society and family. Another eagerly anticipates the prospect of millions of women who have not known a man's touch, believing that the women are all sexually unfulfilled without a man, and he engages in violent sexual fantasies of domination.

The third crew member — the narrator — differs from the other two in that he is an intellectual man without much physical development — the other two men look down upon him for his nerdy qualities, and he thinks back to all of the abuse and bullying he has been the victim of over the years by men like them. He realizes that their feelings of superiority and importance are blinding them to what is really going on: he and his crewmates have been given a mind-altering drug — it disinhibits them and causes them to show their "true selves" and voice their thoughts. He realizes that the traits they have exhibited of violence and domination are unacceptable in the new world of women, and they are all going to be killed, even himself. He tries to explain to them that though he expressed sexual thoughts in aggressive, violent words, he would never act on such thoughts. The women explain that they do not even have such thoughts. They are content to live in a world of women, and they don't want for leadership or sexual fulfillment without men. Their study of these three astronauts has shown that allowing men on Earth will pose unacceptable risks, so they are now merely studying the men and obtaining useful information and (in the case of the over-amorous astronaut) sperm samples, presumably to introduce fresh genetic material and create new genotypes.

10 posted on 08/11/2017 1:24:52 PM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: NorthMountain

There was an “all woman” planet in one of David Drake’s “Hammers Slammers” books ... also a hot mess.


11 posted on 08/11/2017 1:32:12 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That behavior is prevalent in SJW life because most of the SJWs are female, plus a few ruffians who like breaking up property and/or want to get the females into bed.


12 posted on 08/11/2017 1:39:22 PM PDT by expat2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Phillip Wylie wrote a book sometime in the 60’s (I think) called the “Disappearance” that examined what society might look like with the disappearance of all females What was really interesting was -— spoiler alert -— from the female pov, it was the disappearance of all the males. Well worth finding a copy.

Of course we’re also talking the 50’s and 60’s attitudes of male/female relationships.

Found it -
https://www.amazon.com/Disappearance-Philip-Wylie-ebook/dp/B00OPJW8R0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1502482417&sr=8-3&keywords=philip+wylie


13 posted on 08/11/2017 2:22:58 PM PDT by Cadstuff
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Makes me think of the movie Heathers.


14 posted on 08/11/2017 2:26:01 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thank you. I figured this out for myself as a pre-ministry adolescent, but still, thank you.

Look at violent stage mothers to see how a female protects her children. Extrapolate that ferocious, unreasoning protectiveness onto a high-dominance and highly-placed woman. (Hillary Clinton?)

The term “catty” has long existed for a reason. Like felines, female humans are often more devious and dangerous than males.

I believe in Original Sin, and do not delude myself that women are as corrupt and corruptible as men.


15 posted on 08/11/2017 2:27:52 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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Correction: ... are NOT as corrupt...


16 posted on 08/11/2017 2:30:17 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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"I believe in Original Sin, and do not delude myself that women are as corrupt and corruptible as men."

not even close...

but females on FR rarely if ever....not one that I've ever read...posted whole threads bashing men....not one...in all my yrs on FR...two decades....

yet certain posters seem to get their homosexual anti female kicks by bringing such insults here where probably at least 50% of the posters and contributors are female.

okay, I'll say it...women are not perfect....men are not perfect either.....

17 posted on 08/11/2017 2:35:29 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

My wife has said any number of times she never liked working for female bosses - they could be petty, nasty, haughty and standoffish - women trying to get along with other women is not a recipe for a peaceful society.......


18 posted on 08/11/2017 2:56:58 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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“more devious and dangerous”

This is true. The average man is much more straightforward when he wants to do damage, than the average woman is.


19 posted on 08/11/2017 3:10:53 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I played with male and female strays when I was young.


20 posted on 08/11/2017 3:43:49 PM PDT by SaraJohnson ( Whites must sue for racism. It's pay day.)
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