Posted on 07/23/2017 3:18:02 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
The U.S. should NEVER put itself in that position. The Brits sent their civilian boaters to save them. Destroyers and most planes were left behind to 'save England.'
Make sure the Strategic Petroleum Reserve is always filled. Get the hell out of the Middle East with no more immigrints from that region. The Brits should get out of the Falklands. They have bigger fish to fry. Maybe we should al store food like the Mormons.
My history teacher, retired military, said Hitler should have bombed them all on the beach. Cost him the war.
It’s already been made:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064072/
Fantastic aerial scenes and a great score too....
The ensuing attack on the morning of June 22, 1941, was the largest military confrontation in human history, creating a front line that extended 1,000 miles (1,600 km) from north to south (practically the distance from Seattle to Los Angeles). At the outset, the operation involved three million Axis soldiers (across 117 army divisions), 3,580 tanks, 7,184 artillery guns, 1,830 planes, and 750,000 horses. In defense, the Russians amassed 132 army divisions, including 34 armoured divisions.
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Take out England first. Consolidate Europe.
Napoleon also erred invading Russia.
Had Hitler continued to deal with Stalin he could have cut up Eastern Europe and remained in power another 20 years.
It didn’t take much for the British vessels to sink. It’s good that they used young actors unlike other war movies. War is mostly fought by the young.
Why didn’t the guy land his plane where he could go back on a boat? He had to be captured.
Hitler may have paid for it but he won the war, Europe is socialist. They are all the ideological children of Hitler’s dream now.
After all the hoopla about the movie, I was a bit disappointed, too. But I looked at the big picture and got to see how horrible it must have been to be there.
Stalin would have attacked around 1943. He was just trying to buy time to build up the Red Army.
There was an earlier posting which brought out insightful contributions from FR’s about that historic episode which made it learn something meaningful. I also urged readers view “Mrs Miniver” in that one. If Noland were to review this posting and some of the comments, sans yours, the look on his face is understandable.
The Germans weren't particularly interested in what lay east of the Volga-Archangel line.
Look at the map. Moscow was the major rail transport hub. Take out that hub and north-south transport for the Soviet's became greatly complicated. Transport from the Urals would have been less affected in the southern sector but in the north, Leningrad becomes dependent on Lend-Lease via Arkhangelsk.
I think it was the History Channel that had a segment on the Brits taping the captured German officers' comments. One guy said, "Only Hitler and Napoleon didn't know it got cold in Russia in the winter."
IMO Hitler declaring war on the U.S. was a MAJOR blooper. There's a story about DeGaulle talking to his officers when one threw open the door and excitedly exclaimed "The Germans have declared war on America!"
Calmly, he turned to his audience and said, "We have won the war." He knew about the industrial power of the U.S.
I think that seeing the trailers on tv would lead plenty of people to the theatre to learn about Dunkirk. We knew the history but felt it failed miserably.
If Hitler didn’t declare war on the US, we still would have been at war by the end of the month. We had carte blanche to aid the Brits, and it only would have been a matter of time before the Germans attacked one of our ships and giving us the Casus Belli.
Russia wouldn’t have won without our supplies...
<< now add in the Japanese if they decided instead of going after us they just kept going from China and attacking the Russians on the other side >>
Which had been Japan’s expectation and strategic plan for many years...a major reason that the Imperial Japanese Army fared so poorly in the Pacific, following the sudden successes of 1941-42, is that they were effectively out of their element. They had been planning for a land war in Manchuria and Siberia...not a war of isolated outposts in the tropics, that required them to rely on easily-severed supply lines from merchant ships and the hated Imperial Navy.
If you read this link you’ll be shocked at how ridiculous German planning was:
http://www.johndclare.net/wwii6_sealion.htm
Very convincing. It took the US and Britain, both sea powers, years to develop the capabilities the Germans would have needed to mount a powerful attack on British land forces. After the Germans invaded Russia and were stalled on the Eastern Front, there was never any prospect of their committing the resources necessary to accomplish that. And after Hitler declared war on the US following Pearl Harbor, the die was cast. The most he could have accomplished was to batter Britain with V2s until August, 1945 - then the A-bomb would have decided the issue in any event. In historical hindsight.
The film was bad in every way- watch atonement if you want to see a movie about Dunkirk
Oh no. Haunging feelings are incurable, I've heard.
The film was bad in every way- watch atonement if you want to see a movie about Dunkirk
Lots of action intertwined with three separate strands that come together brilliantly at the end.
This is a move that celebrates camaraderie and courage. This is not a weeny anti-war movie.
Anyone who says it plodded is most likely a feral idiot that requires the vapid intensity of a Transformers movie to be entertained.
Dunkirk-2 years after Orwell served in Catalonia. A lot of unpreparedness in both these battles. The film was like ‘The Poisidon Adventure”, a disaster flick. No acting. Like an info-documentary.
How could I enjoy it, there were no minorities or women in it?
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