Posted on 07/10/2017 3:40:24 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
In the days, weeks, and months since Donald Trump's surprising victory, there's been endless speculation and debate about what cost Hillary Clinton the presidential election.
In May, Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight wrote that the October 28 Comey Letter very likely cost Clinton the presidency. There's also evidence that sexism, both conscious and unconscious, helped tear down one of the most qualified candidates in history. And all of this is to say nothing of potential Russian interference.
Well, here's a new one: Members of the astrological community believe that the exact time of Clinton's birth on October 26, 1947, may be responsible for her loss.
According to Broadly, political astrologers have spent decades obsessing over the exact moment Clinton's life began. Knowing a person's birth time is key to figuring out their rising sign, which is used to determine their house cusps: key information when it comes to making predictions about a person's life path.
Apparently, Clinton's time of birth has been a topic of debate for the past two decades. Although it's been reported that Clinton confirmed at least once she was born at 8 p.m., there are several rumored birth times for the former presidential candidate and the answer could determine whether she has an "eminent" birth chart or a "sh*tty" one.
"Astrologers are very resourceful when it comes to finding birth time," says Annabel Gat, Broadly's staff astrologer, "and Hillary's chart is a very notable case where it's just been impossible and such a drama."
Since the 1990s, astrologers have claimed that Clinton was actually born at 8 a.m. and some have stated she doesn't want the public to know her exact birth time. (Although this seems pretty unlikely, because there's no evidence that Clinton has any interest or knowledge regarding astrology.)
As it turns out, many wanted to believe that Clinton was born at 8 a.m. despite precious little evidence to support this assertion. An 8 a.m. birth time would have indicated she has an "eminent birth chart," and hope springs eternal.
"I think that people were gravitating towards the 8 AM time because Hillary looks really strong, and we all really wanted Hillary to win for a lot of reasons; the astrological community is overwhelmingly Democratic," explains Danny Larkin, the vice president of the Association for Young Astrologers.
For his part, Larkin believes Clinton was born at 8 p.m., but he thinks that, regardless of exact birth time, the candidate's chart was "sh*tty." He notes that her Venus is in "terrible shape," under attack by both Mars and Saturn, and her Sun is also under attack.
"There's something about her where she doesn't light up the room," Larkin says. "There's something about her sun; it's not able to shine as brightly as it wants to shine."
Still, there's nothing "utterly cataclysmic" in Clinton's chart. So it's, uh, a pretty big leap to chalk up her loss to astrology when there were so many other factors at play.
Nevertheless, political astrologists continue to speculate. Only this time, they're looking towards what Donald Trump's birth chart could mean for his future. Many astrologers say that the eclipse on August 21 bodes terribly for Trump because it falls directly on Leo, his rising sign.
"All of the astrologers are talking about it… It's this really wild, prominent thing that everybody in the country is going to see in August, and it happens to be very much closely tied into Trump's chart," says an unidentified political astrologist.
But, of course, nothing is ever certain: "In terms of what that specifically means, and in terms of whether that's something negative for [Trump] or something that's negative for the country as a whole, I don't know," he adds.
This information is interesting and all, but I'm sticking to my theory that a perfect storm of external factors (the aforementioned email scandal, Benghazi witch hunt, sexism, and overall dislike and distrust for Clinton) is responsible for her loss.
I wish FR had a ‘like’ button
I thought the astrological community was supposed to have PREDICTED her loss...not explain it away half a year after the fact.
Same applied to Obama. Except he was privileged to be black, with an amorphous background.
That makes as much sense as any other excuse I've seen. And let's face it, Hitlery does suck the life out of a room.
Even Astrologers agree: Hillary was mooned by Uranus.
Just a little editing to clear things up.
About the only excuse Hillary hasn’t used for her loss was that Trump used a voodoo curse to win the election. I’m certain CNN could gin up some phony pictures of a Hillary doll stuck with pins
“Hillary was mooned by Uranus”
And Heranus was retrograde in a big way. Hillary: the Beshartening.
I am so stealing your list with no apologies.
Too much listening to astrologers?
The purpose of the list is for it to be stolen. Enjoy!
I find many of them to be completely unbelievable, but every single one came from Hillary or from someone who worships her. Had the author not described Hillary as “one of the most qualified candidates in history”, the astrology excuse would not have been eligible for the list. For a few, I had to research the author to make sure they were not engaging in satire - “so professional, so polished, such a wonderful lawyer, so brilliant, so good, so righteous, and so much better than us” almost didn’t make the list because I had trouble believing it was sincere even from a known Hillary groupie.
the astrological community is overwhelmingly Democratic,” explains Danny Larkin
Yes, I can believe it.
Worst candidate ever loses because of star positions.
Yeah right.
Trump's victory was only surprising to libs, most of whom did absolutely no vetting of Hillary Clinton.
If they had, they would be outraged that their party would even consider such a criminally unethical, unqualified person as their nominee.
There is a school of astrology, believe it or not and I’ll probably get flamed for this since I have been in the past, that is Biblical, it’s what the Magi used to find the baby Jesus. It’s known as Mundane Astrology and it does not seek individual gain or to try to subvert what was written in the stars from the beginning, as Herod tried to do. The author is correct, astrology in general leans very left but not all of them are. Donald Trump has a very auspicious chart and it’s been obvious for his entire life. It’s almost as if he were destined for this, as improbable as so many people seem to believe this to be in the present time. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, is quite literally star-crossed. Had she somehow managed to get into the office of President, it would have been a star-crossed Presidency with all manner of weird setbacks and pitfalls, ultimately ending in defeat despite very powerful backing and very ambitious plans. This, too, has been obvious for her entire life. Take it for what you will. Me, I’m Christian and while I don’t put a great deal of thought or effort into the topic I do recognize that it’s not what is described as forbidden in the Bible, matter of fact it’s fairly notable throughout, particularly in the Book Of Revelation. Mundane Astrology is world astrology, not individual. It seeks to understand the rise and fall of leaders, kings and nations. That’s the big difference between the utter crap in the daily newspaper, the individual charts that verge upon outright divination and are therefore forbidden, and this.
Are you forgetting the weird and very misbegotten "spells" that opponents of Trump have been attempting to cast against them on a new moon since he won the election?
Is that anything like canckle diameter?
Also - Hillary reminded men of their first wife.
Okay, then. If you don't believe what the Bible says about avoiding fortunetellers, believe what the vice president of the Association for Young Astrologers says.
True, and I’ve read that in many places, but never from a Hillary cheerleader, just from real Americans. It doesn’t make the list until her side says it and means it.
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