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Bear Kills Teen Runner: It Should Have Been a Defensive Gun Use
Gun Watch ^ | 20 June, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 06/27/2017 5:50:16 AM PDT by marktwain


A 16-year-old was killed by a black bear on a organized race in Alaska yesterday, on 19 June, 2017.  The runner had plenty of time to use a defensive firearm.  He had called family members to text them that he was being chased by a bear. From adn.com:

The runner had apparently made it to the halfway point turnaround and was on his way down when he used his phone to text a family member at 12:37 p.m. that he was being chased by a bear, Precosky said. The family member approached Precosky, who was then in the middle of handing out awards.

"I went off and talked to him about it, trying to get a straight story," Precosky said. "He was very shaken and had received this communication."

A search was launched immediately, Precosky said. The family member had GPS coordinates from the missing runner's phone that helped guide searchers to the area where his phone was. But the searchers, including runners that were part of the race, couldn't get closer.
This has all the hallmarks of predatory black bear attack.  The attack was well  telegraphed, because the runner had time to phone and text people about it. After the runner was killed, the bear stayed near the body and would not allow rescuers near it.  The bear was finally driven off when a park ranger shot it in the face with a shotgun slug, wounding it.

Black bears usually break off an attack when serious resistance is encountered. Black bears in predatory mode do not want to risk a serious wound. For a wild animal, a serious wound is often fatal.

The runner was able and willing to carry a cell phone. They could easily have carried a Ruger LCP, which weighs about as much.

There was a time when most people in Alaska knew that wild places had risks associated with them.  It should have been a defensive gun use. From adn.com
"This young man didn't do anything wrong. He was just in the wrong place," Crockett said. "You can't predict which bear is going to be predatory."
Exactly so. Which is why prudent people carry arms.

 A hiker killed a charging brown bear on the trail in 2013, with an AK74.

©2017 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Pets/Animals; Society
KEYWORDS: ak; attack; banglist; bear
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To: bk1000

The face is not a vital area, the brain/cns/major vascular structures are.


21 posted on 06/27/2017 6:55:28 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: marktwain

"...texted..."


This poor unfortunate kid didn't realize this was not a time to be fiddling around with his mobile texting device.
Very few teens recognize that one can press a sequence of numbers, hold the device to their face, and actually speak into it.


22 posted on 06/27/2017 7:02:02 AM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: Manly Warrior

To all who have pointed out my folly, not being experienced with bears, I guess there is much of his face that isn’t vital. It is hard to imagine a shotgun slug landing anywhere in the vicinity of the face not completely discouraging further perseverance on the bear’s part, but I can see how anything less than a kill would make for a risky situation.


23 posted on 06/27/2017 7:15:36 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: marktwain; cracker45; Tainan; Jet Jaguar; SENTINEL; redpoll; ArmyTeach; Eska; hattend; hosepipe; ...

Alaska Ping.

24 posted on 06/27/2017 7:24:36 AM PDT by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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To: Blue Jays

Dean Weingarten is certainly no gun-hating journalist


25 posted on 06/27/2017 7:46:54 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: marktwain

Just got a Remington 870 Tactical the other day. Now for a good carry sling.


26 posted on 06/27/2017 8:06:55 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Blue Jays

AK-47 = design/adopted 1947
AK-74 = design/adopted 1974
Just my $.02 worth.


27 posted on 06/27/2017 8:09:23 AM PDT by Afterguard (Deplorable me!)
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To: marktwain
They could easily have carried a Ruger LCP, which weighs about as much.

Now that's just plain stupid. A little pop gun like that is highly unlikely to save your life in this type of situation. If I'm in bear country, it's a shotgun with slugs as the primary weapon and a .45 semiauto as the secondary.

28 posted on 06/27/2017 8:11:36 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Blue Jays
Very few teens recognize that one can press a sequence of numbers, hold the device to their face, and actually speak into it.

You can do THAT?

29 posted on 06/27/2017 8:16:35 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: marktwain

There are 2 predators that I truly fear in my area: humans and black bears. There was a mama and cub within a few hundred feet of the cabin. My little dog was barking hysterically but did not pursue the bears. The cub showed up days later 40 ft from a neighbor’s kitchen door. She was able to get picture of it. Haven’t seen them lately. Thank goodness. Rather be watching the wild turkey strutting and carrying on. No bears please !!


30 posted on 06/27/2017 8:19:08 AM PDT by ghostkatz (catslivesmatter....all 9 of them)
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To: marktwain

Not likely a 16 year old would be carrying a firearm but just damn...I run and that’s one of the few times I’m not armed. Probably wouldn’t carry anything bigger than a .380 while running


31 posted on 06/27/2017 8:24:38 AM PDT by Horatio Gates
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To: Horatio Gates

16-year-olds can carry in Alaska, with parental permission.


32 posted on 06/27/2017 8:36:38 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: peeps36

awww... look at da cute lil black bear dere in da blackberry bushes. Uh-oh, I think she wants to EAT me!!!


33 posted on 06/27/2017 8:37:11 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Smoke does not mean fire when someone threw a smoke grenade.)
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To: Kenton

Bear mace. And I wonder how well tasers work on bears.


34 posted on 06/27/2017 8:37:59 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Smoke does not mean fire when someone threw a smoke grenade.)
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To: marktwain

Oh okay...that’s definitely a good thing. Thanks!


35 posted on 06/27/2017 8:39:59 AM PDT by Horatio Gates
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To: ichabod1

Bear mace. And I wonder how well tasers work on bears.


I have been told they work well on moose. But you have to be very, very close. Too close for comfort, about 15 feet.


36 posted on 06/27/2017 8:53:18 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Blue Jays

I wish he had called for help (rather than texting), while simultaneously setting his personal best finishing time for that run or for any run or race he would ever participate in. Adrenaline and feet don’t fail me now!


37 posted on 06/27/2017 1:32:52 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: marktwain

Tazer a moose...

Cracks Me Up!


38 posted on 06/27/2017 1:35:34 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: CommerceComet

"...you can do THAT?..."


Most teens-through-millenials will not believe one can literally speak into a texting device until you demonstrate this bold new functionality to them.

I heard the teen also allegedly posted to Facebook that "a bear is gnawing on my femur" which earned him 274 new *likes* from his friends including several of the new rainbow pride emoji.


39 posted on 06/27/2017 2:02:25 PM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: bk1000

You are asking a very good and pertinent question- all too many folks think that a hit is a kill. It is not the case- well, many gunshot wounds will kill eventually. If this bear was busted int eh snout with a 12 ga slug- it likely would die from either infectionor starvation.

A frontal brain shot at most mammals is a shot that usually requires precise placement- between the eyes and not any higher than that- you have to actually visualize the path of the bullet through the skull and the brain- if the bullet will pass generally even with the bae of the skull you will achieve a fatal effect. lower and off center and you miss everything but jaw and neck muscle, higher and you simply are shooting through a plane of skull bone.

While CNS shot if executed with aplomb, drop the critter in its tracks, a miss of the brain stem and or spinal cord in the neck will result in rather upset and quite alive critter.

One pig hunter stated “ stick it in his mouth and aim for the ears” if the hog we were hunting charged...


40 posted on 06/27/2017 2:30:08 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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