Posted on 04/06/2017 8:56:58 AM PDT by Starman417
"Sentence first, verdict afterwards"
Exhibit A: Carter Page
The Clinton News Network screams today:
One week, three more Trump-Russia connections
Among the three is one Carter Page.
And four years ago, a Trump adviser interacted with a Russian spy trying to elicit intelligence.Also in the article:
Carter Page meets a Russian spy in New YorkThe WaPo headline:
Former Trump adviser admits to 2015 communication with Russian spy
Carter Page, who served briefly as a foreign policy adviser to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, made an appearance in a federal espionage case several years ago because he communicated with a Russian intelligence agent under surveillance by the FBI.Sounds awful, right?
Carter Page, the energy industry consultant who was linked last year to Donald Trump's presidential campaign, is the unnamed man identified in a federal complaint as having met with a Russian intelligence agent four years ago, Page himself revealed on Monday.Sounds terrible.
The Daily Beast Carter Page Met With, Gave Documents to Russian Spy in 2013
Buzzfeed: A Former Trump Adviser Met With A Russian Spy
Four years ago, Carter Page had nothing to do with Donald Trump. The liberal media would have you believe Page was a Trump Presidential adviser in 2013. Page was meeting with what he believed to be a Russian businessman. He had no idea the guy was a spy. He was later contacted by the DOJ and assisted the DOJ in prosecuting the Russian agent Evgeny Buryakov. They guy tried to recruit him to be a spy- he refused and then aided the DOJ.
"More than two decades after the end of the Cold War, Russian spies still seek to operate in our midst under the cover of secrecy," said former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara, whose office handled the case, in 2016. "But in New York, thanks to the work of the FBI and the prosecutors in my office, attempts to conduct unlawful espionage will not be overlooked. They will be investigated and prosecuted."And those documents he "handed over"?Undercover FBI agents lured Buryakov and his SVR associates, Igor Sporyshev and Podobnyy, into a trap by masquerading as well-placed business sources ripe for recruitment while using physical and electronic surveillance to gather enough information to build their case.
Page told the FBI that he gave Podobnyy his business card and shared emails passing along his opinions and general documents about the energy business, according to the complaint.That's the big crime. That is the big evidence of collusion.Monday night, he expanded on that description, saying he "shared basic immaterial information and publicly available research documents" — simply "a few samples from the far more detailed lectures I was preparing at the time for the students" in a world energy class he taught at New York University.
Look at the way it is presented.
(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net ...
I wonder if anyone can cite Exactly what Crime he or anyone would be Guilty of for having conversations with Russian Diplomats??
Even if there was Co-Ordination and Collusion, please CITE THE CRIMINAL CODE making it Illegal.
This is the sort of stuff I’ve been looking for. And whadayaknow, there is really nothing there but inference and speculation based on, really, nothing.
Let’s talk about evidence...
We voted for President Trump and own some Gazprom stock.
Boy are we in trouble.
5.56mm
It’s really hard to prove a charade.
It’s been said 100 times by everyone. There is nothing....nothing.
Wow. Earth shattering /s
How about looking at the democrats connection with the russians... and obama’s “having more leeway after the election”..and the fact there was nothing said about russians being the reason for hillary losing the election until someone came up with this fantasy much later... and no doubt, listening in to conversations... they put forth a story for the media... there is no trust in the intelligence branches of the government... the dems like to site comey... comey and the rest, have been compromised by obama... all the branches have been.. and until Trump gets them OUT, this will continue. I am surprised Trump has not gone after them and gotten the out... he seems slow to do that..
Yes, please...
I am getting tired of this attitude of “Everyone knows there was Russian hacking” that I see every day on TV. Even stupid Nicki Haley said so. Trumps should spank her hard for that.
IF THEY “KNOW” THERE WAS RUSSIAN HACKING THEN SHOW US THE PROOF.
I am not even sure there wasn’t - but if anything I bet it was FOR hilLIARy rather than against Trump.
This was a win-win for Russia. HilLIARy was a known dumbass who proved she could be bought, and Trump is NOT the crazy man they say- he is sensible and honest and the Russians know that that would be better than Odumbell on ISIS
Even Tucker Carlson let a Dem spinmeister get away with the statement that “the president is under criminal investigation for possible collusion with Russian hacking,” and absolutely false statement. This is an investigation of the hacking, not the president.
Isn't that proof enough??
They would probably label it as espionage. What bothers me is that they keep asserting as fact that the Russians hacked the DNC/Hillary to help Trump...yet there’s zero evidence of this. This seems to be the basis, Trump colluded with the Russians and they helped him win by hacking these servers to hurt Hillary - yet Julian Assange has stated, repeatedly, it was not the Russians. Even Tucker Carlson let his guest make this same assertion go unchallenged.
My guess is this, they ALL know that the Russians ALWAYS try to meddle in some way. So this just becomes a convenient puddle-of-mud to try and derail an enemy. I’ll also assume that the Democrats have colluded with the Russians in the past against Republicans, so they assume the other side does the same.
Except there’s nothing there. They’re paranoid because of their own practices.
He also let him get away with saying the Russians hacked the DNC/Hillary, even though there’s no evidence of this.
If there really was something it would have been revealed by now. This is just an effort to have a continuous means of slandering and taring this POTUS. They’ll keep presenting information this way and a slice of the gullible population will buy into it. I really don’t think most people think there’s anything to it, after this election cycle, with the way the media behaved, many see it for what it is - propaganda for the left.
There was Russian hacking. Russia hacks both sides in every election in every major country in the world every day, maneuvering for later advantage.
As for effect on the election, it was intended to have no effect, and that was the effect it had. Yes, they got into the DNC and Hillary’s emails, but so did everyone else. The leaks came from within the DNC, not from Russia. The damage came from the fact that what a disgruntled Bernie supporter released was true, not from Russian spin.
Tucker let that guy get away with all his lies. They come on his show and know he’s supposed to outdo them... and they prepare how to not let him succeed. Tucker let him talk way too long. Correct every lie they say.. don’t let it go unanswered! The guy did not shut up. Another guy did just about as much damage a couple nights before. Tucker sometimes agrees with the idea of investigating russiagate and Trump, to “get to the bottom of it”. It’s made up...there is no ‘bottom’ to a lie .. except the pit they live in....has it become truth by this time? they repeat it enough and it’s fact?
Yes, and they took the punk’s lie as word, in the Michael Brown death... quick to find anything they can hang someone on.. a lie works for them.
Russia did not mess in our election... they hacked a site that was not protected.. it’s their own fault.. and the reason hillary lost was due to 8 years of obama (and hillary). obama has hacked all of the citizens... in his power efforts... he has a data base on all of us... and he listened to Trump’s calls... trying to stop him. YES, obama was/is so corrupt, he does not know how to do anything honestly. Congress would not consider impeachment, and so the people SPOKE in this election. If they had impeached obama, biden might have won this time.. (UGH!) but they didn’t and we did! Every time they talk against Trump... do the same with their king, obama... as it is, they let the attacks on Trump go on and on... and seem to forget the actual criminal is obama.
Every time they talk about Trump and russia... bring up the Israeli election where obama was hell bent on Netanyahu losing... and interfered big time. obama also did all he could to stop Brexit. They don’t like to have obama’s name come up in that fashion.. and they will eventually stop bringing up the russia thing. Just compare every act they accuse, to the reality of obama!
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