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Why doesn't President Trump ignore the ruling?
self | 3/15/2016 | self

Posted on 03/15/2017 8:10:26 PM PDT by Signalman

The U.S. Constitution clearly allows the president to block any individuals from entering the country that he deems to be a threat to national security.

Where does it state, in the Constitution, that a federal judge can override the president in this matter?

Trump should carry on and implement the E.O. What is anyone going to do about it? Impeachment? It takes 2/3 of the Senate to convict and the Dems don't have the vote.


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To: alancarp

Agreed. Lives are at stake here.

If someone allowed in during this juncture commits a violent crime, the judge should meet the same fate.

Wishing dreaming...


21 posted on 03/15/2017 8:59:07 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Why can’t a friendly state shop to a GOP appointed judge? Right now only lib judges are obeyed. The hell with them. Why even have a president or congress if lib judges decide everything based on whims.


22 posted on 03/15/2017 9:06:59 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Luke21

The ruling allows those that have visa can enter. But there is no reason for the state dept to issue any more visas. The court can’t issue visas one by one.


23 posted on 03/15/2017 9:11:15 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Signalman

Because he is not the one executing his order. Numerous low level officials and staff members of various departments are the ones at the front lines, and they don’t want to be the ones breaking the law....


24 posted on 03/15/2017 9:12:35 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: Signalman

President Trump must prevail eventually. Ban the terrorism suspects — go Trump!


25 posted on 03/15/2017 9:24:41 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Signalman
Deport the Judge and block his re-entry. Obviously he is a National security risk.
26 posted on 03/15/2017 9:28:43 PM PDT by Spitzensparkin1 (Arrest and deport illegal aliens. Americans demand those jobs back!)
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To: Signalman

Trump lays down.

No freaking way if I was the POTUS with this clear written law on my side roll over.

WTH Trump ???


27 posted on 03/15/2017 9:30:52 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Jyotishi
President Trump must prevail eventually.

Eventually? Just one day of delay on Trumps order is weakness.

28 posted on 03/15/2017 9:35:00 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Signalman
"The U.S. Constitution clearly allows the president to block any individuals from entering the country that he deems to be a threat to national security."

The Constitution has no such clause. Congress has authority over immigration, and Congress has written a law giving the President such authority.

"Where does it state, in the Constitution, that a federal judge can override the president in this matter?"

In those sections that make the Constitution the supreme law of the land, and the courts the judge of the law. The law includes the Constitution. Presidents are subject to the law too.

There are ways to change the law if we don't like the way the courts interpret it. There is no provision for ignoring the courts.

"Trump should carry on and implement the E.O. What is anyone going to do about it? Impeachment? It takes 2/3 of the Senate to convict and the Dems don't have the vote."

Yes, and that's exactly what you'd see if Trump were that foolish. Presidents do not get to defy the law. We did not elect a king. The freepers I see suggesting such nonsense need to think a little harder. What would they have done had Obama done what they say Trump should do? What would they do when the next Democratic President followed the precedent he would set?

You would see impeachment, and you'd see Republicans supporting it.

29 posted on 03/15/2017 9:36:13 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Signalman

Why doesn’t President Trump ignore the ruling?

Because he is not stupid.

Nixon tried to avoid the courts and it cost him. Never hand people the rope with which to hang you.

4 years from now, the long-ball view of My President’s Presidency will be that this current lower dust-up will be a very minor item. It will be resolved.

Right now, NOTING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN GETTING THE HONORABLE MR. GORSUCH INTO THE SCOTUS.


30 posted on 03/15/2017 9:41:33 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

We are no longer a ‘Nation of Laws’ which was clearly demonstrated tonight when Trump refused to strike down the judges ruling.


31 posted on 03/15/2017 9:50:08 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Strac6
Why doesn’t President Trump ignore the ruling?

Because he is not stupid.

Nixon tried to avoid the courts and it cost him.

Trump CLEARLY has the written law on his side but he rolls over.

32 posted on 03/15/2017 9:54:21 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: ErikJohnsky

Impeach? No. Arrest. Throw a few liberal, commie judges in GITMO and the rest will get the message. I’m serious.


33 posted on 03/15/2017 9:55:42 PM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: Java4Jay

Sorry, but after Marbury, et al, written law means what the courts say it does.


34 posted on 03/15/2017 9:57:37 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: mlo

“We did not elect a king. “

We didn’t elect this judge, either.


35 posted on 03/15/2017 9:59:37 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Its over folks... (When OUR president refuses to follow written law clearly in his favor)


36 posted on 03/15/2017 9:59:51 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Strac6
Sorry, but after Marbury, et al, written law means what the courts say it does.

NO.. Trump has written law that couldn't be more clear, supporting his action.

37 posted on 03/15/2017 10:02:31 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: DanielRedfoot

What is case law president? Is that more influential than case law senator?


38 posted on 03/15/2017 10:25:18 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: mlo

The constitution does not make courts the sole arbiter of what the constitution means. The court usurped that power. At some point a president, perhaps this one, will have to go full Andy Jackson. Otherwise we do not have three co-equal branches of government.


39 posted on 03/15/2017 10:25:40 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Vince Ferrer

Agree on splitting the Wacky 9th. Should have been done long ago for purely practical reasons. Split off the crazy states like CA into the new 9th (so it can retain its crown as most reversed circuit) and drop the sane ones into the new 12th circuit.


40 posted on 03/15/2017 10:27:07 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Government employees and welfare recipients are both net tax consumers. Often for life.)
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