Posted on 11/25/2016 5:48:32 PM PST by drewh
The Green Party's 2016 Presidential candidate Jill Stein is announcing her intention to seek a "recount of votes in the battleground states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania." The campaign's press release, posted in full below, cites "a multi-partisan effort to check the accuracy of the machine-counted vote tallies in these states in order to ensure the integrity of our elections."
The announcement follows on word that leaked out yesterday at New York magazine that top electronic voting experts and election integrity advocates have been encouraging the Hillary Clinton campaign to file for similar hand-counts and forensic analyses of electronic voting and tabulation systems in the same states. The BRAD BLOG has independently confirmed that those efforts have been under way and are still being considered at the top level of the Clinton campaign.
We discussed just some of those efforts, and a number of reasons for them, on yesterday's BradCast program. University of Michigan computer science professor Alex Halderman, who has cracked many electronic voting systems in recent years, offers additional reasons to check the results and the systems in WI, MI and PA now right here.
Dr. Jill Stein, the 2016 Green Party Presidential candidate, on her announcement earlier today that her campaign plans to file for hand-counted paper ballot "recounts" and forensic audits of the Presidential election results in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. [Audio link to show and full interview posted below.]
"We have to move really fast in order to basically verify the vote and be confident our votes were actually counted," she tells me, citing the many concerns brought to her by computer scientists and voting systems and election integrity experts, all questioning whether paper ballots were counted accurately by error-prone and easily-hacked computer tabulators in WI and MI, and whether touch-screen systems were manipulated in some fashion in PA.
Across those three states alone, as we have been reporting, just 50,000 votes flipped from Trump to Clinton --- out of more than 13 million ballots cast in those states, where a number of anomalous results have been found --- could change who becomes the next President of the United States.
There is plenty of reason to question whether the results as reported are accurate. And not only because of the surprising results. As I note again on today's show, University of Michigan computer science and voting systems expert J. Alex Halderman, one of those urging the candidates to call for a hand-count, has cracked many electronic voting systems in recent years. He offered still more reasons to examine both the reported results and the systems used in WI, MI and PA earlier today.
Stein, explaining that some $2 million must be raised to meet the deadline to file in WI by Friday (and another $4 million or so for the other two states next week), tells me that it's an "outrage we have to go to extraordinary lengths to verify the vote," adding she is doing so, due to her "interests as a citizen, as a person in America, that the vote be valid." (The campaign has set up a fund raising page for the effort right here.)
"Why would anyone be against counting the votes?," she asks. "It’s long been demonstrated that our system of voting, relying on these machines, has virtually no security. They’re hack friendly [and] tamper friendly."
"People have felt such anguish during this election," Stein notes. "This is a joint effort, and there are many election advocates who are involved. A lot of the grassroots election integrity experts. If ever there was a time to stand up and demand an accountable and secure vote, this is the time to do it. If we don't do it now, when exactly, what would be the cause to do it?" She also details the attempt by the scientists and advocates to encourage the Clinton campaign to take up the effort as well. (I can confirm that effort happened and that the campaign was still considering doing so as of earlier today.) She says she welcomes other campaigns, such as the Libertarian Party and independent candidates with standing, to join the effort as well.
"It feels really good to be standing up right now," she tells me. "It’s time for us to take control of our democracy to start with. To give ourselves a gift on this Thanksgiving." We discuss all of that and the many concerns about the reported results, take a few calls afterward, and actually find a bit more to be thankful for on today's program Download MP3
Stupid witch is doing the evil beast’s betting while taking the hit for the crooked bitch!! My God these folks are diabolical evil and MUST BE DESTROYED!!!
Without overturning PA there is 0 chance of this recount amounting to anything. In order to force a recount in PA the Sec. of State (a Democrat) must order it or evidence of fraud must be presented to a court and a ruling ordering a recount must be obtained where the margin is less than 0.5%. Trump won by 1% or 70,000+ votes. This effort will be over on Monday.
This is all about getting votes for Hillary not Jill. Hillary can claim she has nothing to do with this and Jill takes the fall.
It gives me a migraine to think these evil people keep pushing the envelope.
Don't think it would be too hard in Philadelphia. Just check the "dead" voters.
Since team Hillary wants to go this route....I think it’s time to have an in depth audit of the vote in every state.
I would guarantee Hillary has 10 plus million illegal and fraudulent votes.
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The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted.
The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed;
Trump needs to seek a recount in MN.
The Secretary of State for the Commonwealth CANNOT order a recount. The PA Constitution very clearly says it must be presented to a court.
They will not get the votes in Wisconsin. No recount has EVER flipped a 27,000 vote lead.
Michigan is tighter, with a 10,000 vote difference, again though no recount has ever overcome a lead so large.
They’re out of their mind going after Pennsylvania. It’s a nearly 70,000 vote lead there.
This is being done for several reasons.
Stein has bills due but no reputation to sully. She needs the money.
Soros has plenty of money but needs a different way to hit Trump.
Hillary is sitting back smirking saying “It’s not me.”
They’re trying to fluster us.
Nothing will change. Trump is the next president of the United States.
Isn’t it simply amazing how the left loves to recount votes ONLY in states that can flip an election to them? NOT!
I have not forgotten Bush v Gore when the left ranted on and on about how every vote must be counted. Yet, the Gore team tossed out all sorts of military ballots because they weren’t postmarked correctly due to some snafu in the military postal system. Every chad mattered but they intentionally disenfranchised the military for very obvious reasons. They KNEW those votes were going to be majority Bush. Also, Gore only wanted recounts in certain Democrat majority counties.
It all stinks!
Correct. PA had a deadline of November 20.
Darn, here I was hoping firearms and ammunition prices were about to go down.
If Hillary got a higher proportion of paper ballots than machine ballots, why not check all those absentee ballots for fraud? How many dead people voted? Illegals? Multiple votes? Out of state votes? Look at every vote.
Article VII. Elections.
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Contested Elections
Section 13.
The trial and determination of contested elections of electors of President and Vice-President, members of the General Assembly, and of all public officers, whether State, judicial, municipal or local, and contests involving questions submitted to the electors at any election shall be by the courts of law, or by one or more of the law judges thereof. The General Assembly shall, by general law, designate the courts and judges by whom the several classes of election contests shall be tried and regulate the manner of trial and all matters incident thereto; but no such law assigning jurisdiction, or regulating its exercise, shall apply to any contest arising out of an election held before its passage.
No telling. But I bet Trump has something up his sleeve.
Nevada.
Wisconsin has already agreed to a recount, so it looks like they disagree with you.
Hehehehehe!
In the 2000 election, over 37 days, in a state with 8 million ballots, the rats only found 1200 votes over the course of the recounts.
They’re not winning Wisconsin.
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