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ObamaCare’s last hope: Terrified Senate Republicans
Canada Free Press ^ | 11/14/16 | Dan Calabrese

Posted on 11/14/2016 3:54:18 PM PST by Sean_Anthony

Kicks of mules

ObamaCare is in big trouble. With the election of a Republican president and the survival of Republican majorities in both the House and Senate, ObamaCare should be history.

But ObamaCare is not dead yet. The effort to repeal and replace it is going to face some serious obstacles - some of which are policy-related, like the problem of how you deal with people with pre-existing conditions, or of how you transition people who have signed up for subsidized policies. The left wants you to think that repealing ObamaCare means ripping people’s health care away from them. The trick is to find a way not to do that, and it won’t be easy.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: obamacare; repealandreplace; romneyagenda; romneycare; romneycare4all; romneycare4ever; senaterepublicans
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1 posted on 11/14/2016 3:54:18 PM PST by Sean_Anthony
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To: Sean_Anthony

The author must be smoking some Colorado weed. Is he not aware that not a single Senate Republican voted for that mess?


2 posted on 11/14/2016 3:57:42 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Sean_Anthony

There is a battle taking shape in the GOP.

There is a significant number of people, who simply want Obamacare repealed.

There is also a significant number of people, who want it FIXED. I myself fall in that camp.

I think US healthcare is a big, big topic for this administration. Our healthcare has become a very, very expensive mess. But that is just my opinion.

There are plenty of FReepers however, who seem to also fall in the camp opposing everything about Obama, including Obamacare.

I tell you just from my opinion however, this is the one issue I firmly believe Obama had the right idea on, and the GOP has been completely asleep on, for at least several decades.

GOP you did nothing. Nothing.

Obamacare was needed. It is a mess, but it was needed.

FIX it. Don’t simply end it. We do not need to return to our messed up healthcare system.


3 posted on 11/14/2016 4:02:49 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

Republicans had two repeals of Obamacare that Obama refused to sign already offer that included pre-existing conditions and people to 26 being able to stay on parents insurance while in their basements.
Obama would not sign those two Republican things, but now he claims if the President elect does something with those two points in it that it means Obama has some credit? How desperate is that for Obama?


4 posted on 11/14/2016 4:05:35 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: cba123

Republicans tried to repeal it twice while leaving the two points in there and Obama vetoed.


5 posted on 11/14/2016 4:06:54 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

Mostly that would be those whose premiums are subsidized. But they would likely still get free emergency room treatment or Medicaid.

Most who pay their own are paying astronomical premiums and don't get any coverage until they attain astronomical deductibles.

All these have to do is compare general pre-Obamacare policy costs and coverage with post-Obamacare MANDATORY policy costs and determine which is preferable.
6 posted on 11/14/2016 4:07:38 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: colorado tanker

I’ve read a few Dan Calabrese columns and thought not bad.

This one stinks like burnt hair.

Sorry Dan, you just lost this Freeper.

Couple more like me and you might as well move to Anarctica.


7 posted on 11/14/2016 4:08:40 PM PST by Eddie01 (Democrats are the Liquidate America Party)
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To: cba123

FIX it. Don’t simply end it. We do not need to return to our messed up healthcare system.


We had the best healthcare system in the world before Obamacare.


8 posted on 11/14/2016 4:14:29 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

I predict that light in the loafers lindsey graham will switch parties.


9 posted on 11/14/2016 4:15:37 PM PST by dynachrome (When an empire dies, you are left with vast monuments in front of which peasants squat to defecate)
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To: PeterPrinciple

I think you misspelled “most prohibitively expensive”, seems like you mistakenly wrote “best” somehow.

:D

Just saying.


10 posted on 11/14/2016 4:17:09 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

They should be terrified of defying the will of their voters.


11 posted on 11/14/2016 4:19:02 PM PST by Ted Grant
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To: cba123

Compulsion to contract is illegal.


12 posted on 11/14/2016 4:20:08 PM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: cba123

I think trump is going to leave the preexisting condition part and the high school (i mean 26 year old stuff) which makes sense to me. a separate preexisting condition pool has been i think part of the heritage foundation proposals. a better option would be to buy lifelong policies when young. that follow regardless of unemployment, insure for only catastrophic events. and last for you life time.


13 posted on 11/14/2016 4:20:41 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (all your base are belong to us)
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To: cba123

Sir, with all due respect, your comments remind me of a guy I came upon while helping out in Jarrell, Texas back in 1997 following a tornado that killed 27 people.

The poor fellows house was just a pile of rubble scattered over 10 acres. He was of course distraught to say the least but was actually engaged in a discussion about whether or not anything could be salvaged, which, under the circumstances prevailing at the moment, was incredulous. I overheard the other fellow he was talking to gently say something like “Bill (can’t remember his name), I think you better just let us scoop it all up and put it in the dumpster”.


14 posted on 11/14/2016 4:23:09 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Ray76

Like I said, this is a big future debate, internal to the GOP.

All I can say is, our healthcare system is good. For SOME. For a whole huge bunch of others, it is not. It is an expensive mess, which does not cover them.

Which is what this debate will be about. Other countries don’t do healthcare like we do.

I’m not sure, we are doing it well.

At all.


15 posted on 11/14/2016 4:23:10 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

Obama are was not needed. There is nothing in this world except a government program that needs 20,000 pages to implement. What parts of this huge weath wasting transfer scheme needs to be saved?

For the life of me I can’t undersand anyone who thinks the government makes any situation better with 20000 pages of regulations?


16 posted on 11/14/2016 4:23:26 PM PST by wgmalabama
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To: cba123
Obamacare was needed. It is a mess, but it was needed. FIX it. Don’t simply end it. We do not need to return to our messed up healthcare system.

Wrong, recent noob addition to Free Republic. The only thing that needed to happen was to allow insurance across state lines.

You aren't really on our side, are ya.

17 posted on 11/14/2016 4:24:53 PM PST by Lazamataz (TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!!)
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To: Sean_Anthony
Remember:

Ending ObamaCare does NOT mean we are taking away anyone's "health care."

It might mean we are taking away coverage, i.e., subsidies for certain favored people. These subsidies for favored people are paid for by overcharging non-favored people for their coverage.

And remember: coverage ≠ care

Coverage boils down to a piece of paper, or a card. It proclaims, "You are insured." But it is not health care.

18 posted on 11/14/2016 4:27:13 PM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: TomGuy
Yep.

Before Obamacare, my whole family was covered by my employer.

Since I'm not poor enough to receive subsidies, and I'm not nearly wealthy enough to pay out of pocket, I've been totally SCREWED.

$1500/month in premiums.

Not a dime payed until I reach the deductible of 12K.

That isn't even "insurance". That's a catastrophic plan.

For those folks getting care that I am paying through the nose for, you're welcome.

Wish I had some "rich guy" paying MY bills.

19 posted on 11/14/2016 4:28:03 PM PST by boop ("We don't feel like we are doing anything illegal"- Democrat credo)
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To: Lazamataz

Sigh.

I’ve been a FReeper since 2005. Originally posted as Cringing Negativism Network.

Am using this login, because I changed when I went overseas.

Thanks for your post though. You rock, I have to say.


20 posted on 11/14/2016 4:28:07 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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