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Why It’s Not Cool That Trump Wants The Constitution Interpreted The Way The Founding Fathers Did
The Huffington Post ^ | 10/19/2016 | Julia Craven

Posted on 10/20/2016 1:38:27 PM PDT by Trump20162020

WASHINGTON ― Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump advocated for a literal interpretation of the Constitution during the third, and final debate, on Wednesday.

“The justices that I’m going to appoint will be pro-life, they will have a conservative vent,” Trump said in response to a question about how the Constitution should be interpreted. “They will be protecting the Second Amendment. They are great scholars in all cases ― and they’re people of tremendous respect. They will interpret the Constitution the way the founders wanted it interpreted.”

That’s not cool. Here’s what was going on when the Constitution was written in 1787.

1. Slavery was legal. Black people were enslaved.

2. Enslaved Africans were considered to be three-fifths of a person.

3. Only white people were considered to be people.

4. Only white men who owned property could vote.

5. LGBT couples couldn’t get married.

(Excerpt) Read more at huffingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; constitution; donaldtrump; founders; foundingfathers; huffingtonpost; trump
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1 posted on 10/20/2016 1:38:28 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Trump20162020

These people are PURE EVIL.


2 posted on 10/20/2016 1:39:07 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Trump20162020

All I know is that when I want to read an analysis of the U.S. Constitution, the first place I always go is the Huffington Post.


3 posted on 10/20/2016 1:40:48 PM PDT by Maceman (Screw the Party. Save the Country.)
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To: Trump20162020

In this one, strong is the idiocy.


4 posted on 10/20/2016 1:41:19 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Maceman

That’s the second place I go.

The first place I check is the NYT.

Do I really need the /s?


5 posted on 10/20/2016 1:43:21 PM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man. I've lost my patience!)
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To: Trump20162020
1) Some African descended people were enslaved. Some were free. Slavery has since been outlawed by Constitutional Amendment ... just like the founders intended.

2) Three fifths representation in Congress was a compromised forced by the northern States to diminish the power of the southern States. This compromise has been superseded by Constitutional Amendment ... just like the founders intended.

3) Bullshit.

4) Only people who were financially supporting the community and government could vote. Yeah, that was primarily white men. Deal with it.

5) It always comes down to crotch issues with the left, doesn't it. Two men cannot marry each other; the relationship they have is not a marriage and cannot be. Deal with it, you diseased pervert.

Truly, these are nasty people.

6 posted on 10/20/2016 1:44:11 PM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: Such a nasty woman ...)
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To: Trump20162020
The second is a flat out lie. So is the third. The fourth is partly true and the fifth is another lie.

So apparently lying is cool.

7 posted on 10/20/2016 1:44:19 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: Puppage

It is war. In war there is no substitute for victory. We did not ask for war against them and in fact let them escalate for decades without responding in kind but war it is now. They asked for it. They have it. If they want to continue to escalate they have picked the right dancing partner. They would be wise to wake up before it is too late but I just don’t think they are capable. They really do seem to believe we will just lay down and take it forever.


8 posted on 10/20/2016 1:44:28 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: All

Miz Craven is aptly named, at least.


9 posted on 10/20/2016 1:44:45 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Trump20162020

National Lampoon used to have a feature called “Joke Analysis”. I would have liked to have seen them tackle this one.


10 posted on 10/20/2016 1:44:47 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Trump20162020

The Left, by definition, hates anything that stands in the way of a democracy’s inherent spiral down into tyranny.


11 posted on 10/20/2016 1:44:59 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Trump20162020
HOW LONG will we have to put up with these IMBECILES who don't know that the 3/5ths of a person thing was a compromise to limit the power of the slave states! GOD!

We need to start calling racist the people who moan about "3/5ths of a person."
12 posted on 10/20/2016 1:45:19 PM PDT by Rastus (#NeverHillary #AlwaysTrump)
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To: Trump20162020

But there is a constitutional process to change the constitution, that has worked pretty well.


13 posted on 10/20/2016 1:45:45 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Trump20162020

What’s not cool is that the Left ignores the fact that those old, white, racist, women haters left the future the keys to AMEND the Constitution with changing times.

But Since the Left couldn’t pass ERA in 60 years of trying, they decided to go with activist judges and UN-Constitutional remedies to their politically created victimhoods.


14 posted on 10/20/2016 1:46:20 PM PDT by digger48 (Deplorables Unite)
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To: Trump20162020

I don’t recall anything about gay marriage in the Constitution or the BoR. Could someone enlighten me?


15 posted on 10/20/2016 1:46:39 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: Puppage

http://dailysignal.com/2015/12/28/what-the-constitution-really-says-about-race-and-slavery/


16 posted on 10/20/2016 1:48:25 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (When the MSM wants your opinion, they will give it to you)
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To: wastoute

Despicable that we have some of the leaders amongst our army that would gladly frag their own troops


17 posted on 10/20/2016 1:48:48 PM PDT by digger48 (Deplorables Unite)
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To: Rastus
This is the result of going to a liberal arts college to appear to be intelligent, but coming out dumber than when you went in.
18 posted on 10/20/2016 1:49:04 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: Trump20162020
Ignorance about the history of nations, of liberty, and of America's place in the history of "slavery" abounds.
In response to a posted thread on a similar subject a few years ago, my post included words from Jefferson's Autobiography and from Burke's "Speech on Conciliation," as follows:

"The first establishment in Virginia which became permanent was made in 1607. I have found no mention of negroes in the colony until about 1650. The first brought here as slaves were by a Dutch ship; after which the English commenced the trade and continued it until the revolutionary war. That suspended...their future importation for the present, and the business of the war pressing constantly on the (Virginia) legislature, this subject was not acted on finally until the year 1778, when I brought a bill to prevent their further importation. This passed without opposition, leaving to future efforts its final eradication."

Jefferson also observed:

"Where the disease [slavery] is most deeply seated, there it will be slowest in eradication. In the northern States, it was merely superficial and easily corrected. In the southern, it is incorporated with the whole system and requires time, patience, and perseverance in the curative process."

He explained that, "In 1769, I became a member of the legislature by the choice of the county in which I live [Albemarle County, Virginia], and so continued until it was closed by the Revolution. I made one effort in that body for the permission of the emancipation of slaves, which was rejected: and indeed, during the regal [crown] government, nothing [like this] could expect success."

One more quotation, cited in David Barton's work on the subject of the Founders and slavery, which also cites the fact that there were laws in the State of Virginia which prevented citizens from emancipating slaves, (can be found at Barton's web site shown later herein)is this one from Jefferson:

"The whole commerce between master and slave is a perpetual exercise of the most boisterous passions, the most unremitting despotism on the one part, and degrading submissions on the other. Our children see this and learn to imitate it; for man is an imitative animal. This quality is the germ of all education in him. From his cradle to his grave he is learning to do what he sees others do. If a parent could find no motive either in his philanthropy or his self-love for restraining the intemperance of passion towards his slave, it should always be a sufficient one that his child is present. But generally it is not sufficient. . . . The man must be a prodigy who can retain his manners and morals undepraved by such circumstances. And with what execration should the statesman be loaded who permits one half the citizens thus to trample on the rights of the other. . . . And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep for ever. . . . The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in such a contest. . . . [T]he way, I hone [is] preparing under the auspices of Heaven for a total emancipation."

For an excellent and factual record of the Founders' views on the matter of slavery (especially those of Washington and Jefferson} visit David Barton's site (wallbuilders).

A review of the factual, written history of the period in order to understand the tremendous contributions of the Founders to the "extinction" of slavery in America is essential to any meaningful discussion. Barton has has utilized the record in writing that exists to inform any who wish to arm themselves with knowledge. One source he does not quote, I believe, is the famous "Speech on Conciliation" by Edmund Burke before the British Parliament, wherein he admonished the Parliament for its Proposal to declare a general enfranchisement of the slaves in America.

Burke rather sarcastically observed that should the Parliament carry through with the proposed Proposal: "Slaves as these unfortunate black people are, and dull as all men are from slavery, must they not a little suspect the offer of freedom from that very nation (England) which has sold them to their present masters? from that nation, one of whose causes of quarrel with those masters is their refusal to deal any more in that inhuman traffic?" He continued: "An offer of freedom from England would come rather oddly, shipped to them in an African vessel, which is refused an entry into the ports of Virginia or Carolina, with a cargo of three hundred Angola negroes. It would be curious to see the Guinea captain attempting at the same instant to publish his proclamtion of liberty and to advertise his sale of slaves."

Ahhh, how knowledge of the facts can alter one's opinion of the revisionist history that has been taught for generations in American schools (including its so-called "law schools"!!!

Human beings are allotted ONLY A TINY SLIVER OF TIME ON THIS EARTH. Each finds the world and his/her own community/nation existing as it is. If lawyers and judges educated themselves (in this day of the Internet) on the history of civilization and America's real history, and if they used that knowledge and the resulting understanding, to do as much on behalf of liberty for ALL people as did Thomas Jefferson and America's other Founders, the world in the next century would be a better place.

Remember, Thomas Jefferson was only 33 years old when he penned our Declaration of Independence which capsulized a truly revolutionary idea into a simple statement that survives to this day to inspire people all over the world to strive for liberty!


19 posted on 10/20/2016 1:49:44 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Trump20162020

The Constitution has a built-in amendment process. If an overwhelming number of people want a change, it will eventually happen. And then the document, as amended, becomes the Constitution. That’s what the Founders intended.


20 posted on 10/20/2016 1:50:06 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy ("We will not tolerate those who are intolerant of the intolerant.")
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