HA!
Imagine that as a poster at Snowflake U.?
Posted on 08/27/2016 7:57:38 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony
Trump wants her to come out and fight because that’s when she becomes vulnerable. Now, get ready for the counter-punch
With her ‘alt-right’ conspiracy speech in Reno, Hillary Clinton has served notice she’s ditching her ‘run-out-the-clock’ strategy’ in favor of smearing Donald Trump and his core of ‘radical’ followers as dark, dangerous bigots. The question is why the change in tactics. Just this week, the Politico quoted Clinton insiders as saying “they can ride out” the latest email and Clinton Foundation controversy by running out the clock until the election. They see the poll numbers and have decided it’s over. All she has to do is stay under the radar as much as possible, make no mistakes, and let her media PR department destroy Trump. So what happened?
In her Reno speech Clinton said Trump is “taking hate groups mainstream and helping a radical fringe take over the Republican Party.” Hello Breitbart, Drudge, Alex Jones etc. Liberal reporters will take her attack on ‘fringe’ alternative conservative media as their cue to produce stories that validate Clinton’s warnings about the ‘Trump effect’.
HA!
Imagine that as a poster at Snowflake U.?
Obviously, the leftists would like that definition to stick because they think they can win with it.
Is it "in reality has devolved towards progressivism"?
Alt-right has fallen into some authoritarian traps, and to that extent could be regarded as sharing "progressive" opinions, but it's mostly baloney. Conservatives are trying to define the alt-right just like the progtards are.
Who elected Russel Kirk the Moses of THE "10 Conservative Principles"?
He got there by virtue of being in early. He stayed there by virtue of movement conservatives -- especially William F. Buckley Jr. -- who regularly purged "heretics." JBS was an early target, as were all forms of libertarianism. [I think there is a secret codicil in WFB's will that requires NR to continue to do one hit piece on Ayn Rand per year.]
Look how the term now being scrutinized and time dedicated -- even here.
It's been building for some weeks. Facebook and other social media chatter before the attack was focused on Steve Bannon. Mother Jones ran an article about how Breitbart News was now a legitimate outlet for "racism" about a week ago.
The thing is, it's not even new. Every Republican in my lifetime except Eisenhower has been painted with this brush. Paul Ryan (for example) is kewl-down with these attacks now: of all people in the world, he should be most ashamed of himself for aligning with the race card tossers. Just four years ago he was branded by Zero's operatives as a racist himself.
I'm not Alt-Right myself, although, as you say there is a lot to agree with there (as well as some important and fundamental points to disagree with.) But one tactic they use which I agree with and have embraced myself in the last year: they don't care what names you call them. We shouldn't either. And we shouldn't be attacking any other movements as long as "progressivism" remains to be destroyed.
One war at a time.
I am currently pondering this concept. I would prefer to think it is not true, but i've been presented with quite a bit of evidence that it is.
There is no point in believing in the Constitution, because the original meaning of the Constitution has been destroyed and can never be reinstated until you understand item #1 and work to undo the destructive influences of progressives, racialists, and all of their enablers.
On this one, i'm pretty much there.
Alt-Right doesn't believe Israel's national interests are be the same as ours, and doesn't believe there is such a thing as Judeo-Christian values -- to the extent that such a thing exists, they're just Christian values. Period.
And on this one I totally disagree, and will start a fight over. Once cannot postulate a Christianity absent it's Jewish origins. That is utter nonsense.
Here is a full rundown at Vox Day's blog. Vox is one of the most identifiable of the Alt-Rightists, and I guess would be considered an intellectual light of the movement.
I stumbled onto "Vox Day" a few weeks ago. I have to admit there is a lot of "high voltage thinking" going on over there, though i've seen some holes in some arguments.
It's not only that, but I perceive more "edginess" to their commentary. They seem to be more "Simon Peter" and less "Luke."
I get the feeling that they are the sorts that would man the barricades and go toe to toe with the left in the streets if necessary. (Yes, I know "Man the Barricades" is a leftist thing, but you get the point.)
I disagree strongly with the antipathy toward Israel on the basis of both practical geopolitics and consanguinity. With respect to the Christian vs. Judeo-Christian philosophy, their essential argument is: Christianity is the fulfillment of Judaism, so there is only Christianity. In any respect that Judaism "disagrees" with Christianity, it is mistaken. In any respect that they philosophically agree, you might as well just say "Christianity."
As an agnostic I have no real dog in that fight. Jefferson made a strong case (IMHO) that the Common Law (and before it, Anglo-Saxon Law) originate in Roman Laws, that predate Constantine by centuries and has no basis in Judeo-Christian legal tradition. I don't believe you can make that case concerning the whole culture and philosophy of The West, which used to (more correctly) be called "Christendom." I think they would like to return to that usage. Again, not my dog, not my fight.
That's cause you're not in the emerging FReeper Illuminati. /S
Pepe & Wojak bump
Yeah, she not only wants to do away with the second amendment, she hates the first amendment, too.
Alt-Right is a REAL THING
Not really. There has been high brow racialist day dreamers going back into at least the 19th century. Nothing new there. And we’re certainly not going to win any elections hitching our wagon to that nonsense.
It is a real term, not made up by Hillary. I would describe them as the Millenial generation of conservatives.
Not in the context of Hillary and Ryan refer to “alt right”. They are speaking of the fringe racialists and White Power types. They want to roll anybody who opposes them in with those clowns, marginalize them and destroy them.
Right. Because we’ve been SO successful by accepting the left’s characterizations of us as truthful.
Right. Because we’ve been SO successful by accepting the left’s characterizations of us as truthful.
Right. Because we’ve won SO many elections with a racialist platform.
SJW's are liars. Period. I'm not giving them the power to define what I think, and I'm not going to trust their characterizations of other people, either.
You may, by all means, continue to cower in fear of their lies. Not me.
Because we’ve won so many wars in the culture battle by running away frightened every time a congenital liar like Her Thighness calls us racists/bigots/homophobes.
SJW’s are liars. Period. I’m not giving them the power to define what I think, and I’m not going to trust their characterizations of other people, either.
You may, by all means, continue to cower in fear of their lies. Not me.
You are having a day dream. Start up with the White genocide stuff and it’s a guaranteed electoral loss.
Do you want to win or be right?
Do the Dems scream to the sky the fact that they are marxists when they are trying to win elections? Of course not.
Accepting the reality of the situation is not “cowering”. LOL. Buy a clue, FRiend.
Hillary's "alt-right" speech was a fantastical concoction of looney leftwing conspiracy theories, and we're the ones who have to distance ourselves? [From what, exactly? Their mischaracterizations. Buy your own clue. Romney and Ryan were painted as racists by the same people. ALL Republicans are.]
One of us is daydreaming, and it isn't me.
The situation is where it is because “conservatives” have been cowards. Steve Bannon isn’t aligned with the KKK; did he publicly kiss his mentor Robert Byrd? Someone we know did.
Hillary’s “alt-right” speech was a fantastical concoction of looney leftwing conspiracy theories, and we’re the ones who have to distance ourselves? [From what, exactly? Their mischaracterizations. Buy your own clue. Romney and Ryan were painted as racists by the same people. ALL Republicans are.]
One of us is daydreaming, and it isn’t me.
A year ago Breitbart was full of nutty White Genocide comments. They are gone now. Seems Bannon agrees with me and not you. But feel free to continue your day dreaming about electing leaders on such a platform. It ain’t gonna happen. Period.
Right. Mark Steyn has been writing about this for a decade. He’s suddenly “alt-right,” according to your leftist friends that you’re making excuses for, and no doubt the reason we’ve lost two presidential elections.
Don't think that's the issue for them; Just creating a meme. ANY meme. Any fire. Any smoke for the pods to follow instead of Hillary's series of political Dresdens.
Alt-right has fallen into some authoritarian traps, and to that extent could be regarded as sharing "progressive" opinions, but it's mostly baloney. Conservatives are trying to define the alt-right just like the progtards are.
This alt-right fight over definition is bait. We've already figured out it's nothing but false-flag intellectual chum.
Any paradigm of rules and law can be construed as "totalitarian". Agree. The progs seem to want to blur lines of political demarcation.
He [Russell Kirk] got there by virtue of being in early. He stayed there by virtue of movement conservatives -- especially William F. Buckley Jr. -- who regularly purged "heretics." JBS was an early target, as were all forms of libertarianism. [I think there is a secret codicil in WFB's will that requires NR to continue to do one hit piece on Ayn Rand per year.]
I guess by virtue of his early standing, by default Kirk win the "Moses" status. So they were the one who de-legitimatized the JBS from "conservative" status? So there went the baby with the bathwater? Lol@ the Ayn Rand crack.
It's been building for some weeks. Facebook and other social media chatter before the attack was focused on Steve Bannon. Mother Jones ran an article about how Breitbart News was now a legitimate outlet for "racism" about a week ago.
The Bannon hit in any case was predictable. FB and its co-prog snake pits like Mo-Jo will be screeching "racism" and tainting with suspicion any molecule associated with Trump every day until the election. I doubt they'll change "hearts and minds."
The thing is, it's not even new. Every Republican in my lifetime except Eisenhower has been painted with this brush. Paul Ryan (for example) is kewl-down with these attacks now: of all people in the world, he should be most ashamed of himself for aligning with the race card tossers. Just four years ago he was branded by Zero's operatives as a racist himself.
Every Pubbie must by default face the charge of "racism" from Dems. Someone like Ryan backed up just enough to let the Dems know he would play ball. Paul Ryan is an unprincipled Globalist-Firster who plays for the other team in any case. He should be ashamed by his own treachery and political transvestism, but seems proud and content to make it known that he's a tool whose "service" is available at the right price.
I'm not Alt-Right myself, although, as you say there is a lot to agree with there (as well as some important and fundamental points to disagree with.) But one tactic they use which I agree with and have embraced myself in the last year: they don't care what names you call them. We shouldn't either. And we shouldn't be attacking any other movements as long as "progressivism" remains to be destroyed. One war at a time.
We should simply label ourselves "conservative" based on:
1)Pro-America First
2) Pro-Life/Pro Family
3) Pro-2A
4) Pro-Sovereignty (Person/State/Nation)
5) Pro-Small Gummint
Everything else can be added as an addendum.
To begin humoring the Left's obsession on "alt-right" is BS that automatically puts the entire Right on the defensive. It's a mouse-trap for idiots. FB and Mo-Jo need to be told to take a hike to the Clinton Foundation HQ.
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