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1 posted on 02/22/2016 10:07:49 AM PST by hasb3an
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Apple should break open this phone, but NOT give the key to the feds.


2 posted on 02/22/2016 10:11:34 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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Ask yourself if China demanded Apple open the phone would already be opened.


3 posted on 02/22/2016 10:12:19 AM PST by scooby321
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All the libtards coming out against Apple convince me more and more that Apple is right


5 posted on 02/22/2016 10:12:52 AM PST by Mr. K (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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Why Apple's shameless fight with the FBI is all about ego, not just cause

Apple's multi-billion dollar team of corporate lawyers aren't going to choose a fight with the FBI and the federal government over "ego". This fight is about federal control over Apple's device security - something that concerns Apple and other tech companies, and something that should frighten every consumer of technology devices - we will be the ultimate losers in this if the federal government wins.
6 posted on 02/22/2016 10:12:57 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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I'll never, never buy any apple product.

Bite that, Mr. Big Shot....protector of the world...not.

8 posted on 02/22/2016 10:13:09 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Stay strong Apple


11 posted on 02/22/2016 10:20:17 AM PST by svcw (An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject)
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MacAffee said he’d hack the phone for free, but that’s not what the government wants

They want the encryption back door so they can spy on everybody with an iPhone... it’s not just this one terrorist, MacAffee called their bluff

And the great point he made is such a back door would undoubtably be hacked by the Russians, Chinese, and pretty much anybody else willing to make the effort

Sounds like the author here is merely apologizing for Trump’s ludicrous statements and position on this topic


14 posted on 02/22/2016 10:29:57 AM PST by Reaganite Republican (FREEDOM - OPPORTUNITY - PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY)
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This is to establish a precedence. Apple should hold out until a warrant is handed to them.

They [the FBI] I believe has all the information from the phone. So you’re right, it’s about ego. But it’s about the DOJ ego.


15 posted on 02/22/2016 10:31:48 AM PST by Fhios (circa 2016: Truth will be outlawed unless pre-approved.)
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Here’s my writ for a drug dealer’s phone, and evidence that Apple has done it before. Open it. Here’s the phone of a civil dissident in China, do the same. Here’s the phone of a woman caught driving in Saudi Arabia, open it. Here’s the phone of a Christian in Afghanistan, unlock it.

Once done, it will have to be always done.

Moreso, what really is the material difference between this and ordering a baker to make a cake? Are there other areas of the RFP process that should also be handled by judicial writ?

And does this writ give immunity to Apple against lawsuits for false advertising saying that Apple claimed these phones were secure than deliberately made them less so?

There are thousands of issues clouding this whole debate. At the core, the perennial question of trading temporary security at the cost of liberty. Does opening the San Bernardino County owned phone of the husband of a Pakistani terrorist justify all?

I don’t think so. I doubt that there is any relevant data available on that phone.


20 posted on 02/22/2016 10:36:14 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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IMHo, it's all smoke and mirrors. The Feds have either already cracked the phone themselves or Apple has already cracked it for them. This is all to just make sure the same thing doesn't happen with the iPhone that happened when the NYT spilled the beans about our listening in on equipment Bin Laden used.
22 posted on 02/22/2016 10:42:15 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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The FBI tells the County to reset the password, then whines when the phone is screwed up. Then they sue Apple to clean up their mess? I say “screw them.” All they want is to be able to get into everybody’s iPhones. They’ve been trying this crap with Apple’s security systems for years.


24 posted on 02/22/2016 10:56:43 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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Tell the government to take a long walk off a short pier. This is all BS. This current government is one of the most corrupt ever.


29 posted on 02/22/2016 11:06:06 AM PST by mulligan (I)
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Limbaugh stated something startling today. The owner of the phone is not the terrorist but the local county government for whom the terrorist worked. Limbaugh stated that the county has the legal authority to authorize Apple to hack the phone. There is one even better. The county has access to software provided by Apple that would allow the county to get into the phone and give all the data to the FBI.

The big question is why the county does not use the software and get into the phone?


34 posted on 02/22/2016 11:13:19 AM PST by GilGil
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BetaNews? Yeah, it’s “beta” news, all right — “beta” as in “crude jury-rigged not-ready-for-prime-time junk that needs a lot of bugs fixed” version.


49 posted on 02/22/2016 12:46:54 PM PST by Cyberman
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Many of those (in media) who should undeniably have a more nuanced, intricate understanding of the technical tenets being argued here have spent the last week pollinating the internet with talking point, knee-jerk reaction.

Sounds like the gun control issue and coverage as well.

55 posted on 02/22/2016 1:22:13 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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Last week there was a classic FR discussion on this issue. It was very free ranging and both sides and other sides were put forth and discussed.

This thread is a hard hat and steel toe boot one, and not for timid souls.

Please spend some time going through this thread to get all sides.

This may be a hotter issue than the presidential
election for this year and years to follow.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3399395/posts


64 posted on 02/22/2016 6:13:20 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump the lying RNC/GOPe Open Borders elite thugs! Say no to their candidates! faGo TRUMP!)
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Apple vs. FBI: 9 Updates in the Fight Over a Killer’s Locked iPhone
MEDIA | By Joan E. Solsman on February 22, 2016 @ 5:26 pm

http://www.thewrap.com/apple-vs-fbi-9-updates-fight-locked-iphone/


65 posted on 02/22/2016 8:36:41 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump the lying RNC/GOPe Open Borders elite thugs! Say no to their candidates! faGo TRUMP!)
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Apple vs. FBI: 9 Updates in the Fight Over a Killer’s Locked iPhone
MEDIA | By Joan E. Solsman on February 22, 2016 @ 5:26 pm

http://www.thewrap.com/apple-vs-fbi-9-updates-fight-locked-iphone/


66 posted on 02/22/2016 8:37:43 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump the lying RNC/GOPe Open Borders elite thugs! Say no to their candidates! faGo TRUMP!)
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I think this is a show.Apple gave it over and the good guys are waiting for the bad guys to make a move.
San Bernardino Massacre: FBI Raids Home of Shooter’s Brother
According to records, Farook enlisted in the Navy from 2003 to 2007, earning several medals during his service. The raid came one day after Apple’s CEO Tim Cook released a statement to iPhone customers, announcing their intent to fight a judicial order directing the tech giant to aid the FBI in hacking the terrorist’s phone.
http://www.people.com/article/feds-raid-home-of-san-bernardino-shooters-brother


67 posted on 02/22/2016 8:47:51 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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Microsoft founder Gates backs FBI in encryption fight with Apple

Published February 23, 2016 FoxNews.com
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The clash between Apple and FBI heats up

Microsoft founder Bill Gates has broken with other Silicon Valley giants by backing the FBI in its battle with Apple over hacking into a locked iPhone as part of the investigation into last December’s San Bernardino terror attack.

In an interview with the Financial Times published Tuesday, Gates said a court order requiring Apple to help the FBI access a work phone belonging to gunman Syed Farook was “ a specific case where the government is asking for access to information. They are not asking for some general thing, they are asking for a particular case.”

Gates went on to compare the FBI request to accessing bank and telephone records. However, he added that the government must be subject to rules about when it can access such information.

I hope that we have that debate so that the safeguards are built and so people do not opt, and this will be country by country. [to say] it is better that the government does not have access to any information. Gates said.

The San Bernardino County-issued iPhone 5C was used by Farook, who with his wife, Tashfeen Malik, killed 14 people at an office holiday party in December before they died in a gun battle with police. The government said they had been at least partly inspired by ISIS.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/02/23/microsoft-founder-gates-backs-fbi-in-encryption-fight-with-apple.html


70 posted on 02/23/2016 7:26:25 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump the lying RNC/GOPe Open Borders elite thugs! Say no to their candidates! Go TRUMP!)
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