Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Trump’s Not a Conservative Icon, and I Don’t Care!
Canada Free Press ^ | 02/12/16 | Jim O'Neill

Posted on 02/12/2016 8:29:55 AM PST by Sean_Anthony

We the people have responded--to the disbelief and chagrin of the elites: "We love America, we think it is great, and you can take your global utopia and shove it where the sun don't shine!" God bless America!

Trump’s no conservative an’ I don’t care. Doo-da, doo-da. Trump’s no conservative an’ I don’t care. Oh de doo-dah day. Gonna run all night; gonna run all day. Trump’s no conservative an’ I don’t care. Votin’ Trump anyway.

To the tune of “Camptown Races/Ladies,” Stephen Foster (1826-1864) (Note: also works with “Trump’s not a liberal….”)

Trump is a philosophically unmoored political opportunist who would trash the broad conservative ideological consensus within the GOP in favor of a free-floating populism with strong-man overtones.—The Editors “National Review”


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: conservatives; elitists; trump; wethepeople
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 181-182 next last
To: Trumpinator
So your approach now is to tear down Reagan to prop up your guy?
Conservatism and following the Constitution matter. With no principals; anarchy is the result. And our nation will just become like Canada.
Getting a true follower of the Constitution elected will fix many more problems than Trump says he will fix.

The next Supreme Court appointments are probably the most important thing the next President will do. That impact will last decades.

41 posted on 02/12/2016 8:52:30 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Bruce Campbells Chin
My problem is that I actually think he prefers big-government solutions in general. Not just a RINO who is wrong on some issues, but a guy who will generally be wrong on most issues.

======

All the GOP candidates left except Trump and Ben Carson have worked for the govt their whole lives - even when they were briefly in the private sector. So we have this cognitive dissonance where limited govt espousing conservatives are voting for govt employee lifers.

42 posted on 02/12/2016 8:52:37 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Durbin
Yes, he’s running as a big government Republican. You can’t name one thing he’s proposing that doesn’t require more government. It’s not the government that’s the problem, it’s the people running it. So he’s gonna make it great again. LOL

----

All the GOP candidates left except Trump and Ben Carson have worked for the govt their whole lives - even when they were briefly in the private sector. So we have this cognitive dissonance where limited govt espousing conservatives are voting for govt employee lifers.

43 posted on 02/12/2016 8:53:56 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: AnotherUnixGeek
Why hasn't any other GOP candidate come out in favor of building a border wall?

Ted Cruz. Since 2012.

44 posted on 02/12/2016 8:54:54 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Trumpinator

Mike Lee, Cruz and Sessions are the only Conservatives I am aware of in the Senate.

What sort of deals will trump make with his friends McConnell, Schumer and Pelosi?

I sure they are all in on touch and go amnesty.


45 posted on 02/12/2016 8:55:19 AM PST by Leto
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

The GOPe already took out Walker quite handily, in case you have amnesia.


46 posted on 02/12/2016 8:56:26 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The goal of socialism is communism... Hatred is the basis of communism" --Vladimir Lenin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Leto
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/16/jeff-sessions-donald-trumps-immigration-policy-is-exactly-the-plan-america-needs/

Jeff Sessions: Donald Trump’s Immigration Policy Is ‘Exactly the Plan America Needs’

47 posted on 02/12/2016 8:57:16 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: Trumpinator

“So we have this cognitive dissonance where limited govt espousing conservatives are voting for govt employee lifers.”

So I should just vote for the big businessman who says government will fix everything when he’s in charge? LOL. Ok.


48 posted on 02/12/2016 8:57:37 AM PST by Durbin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Trumpinator
So we have this cognitive dissonance where limited govt espousing conservatives are voting for govt employee lifers.

Well, you apparently believe that anyone who has spent their career in government is automatically not a limited government conservative. For a variety of reasons, I think that is a flawed assumption. It is entirely that someone can spend their career in government fighting for the principles of limited government.

That being said, none of that changes my point. Trump should be providing more specifics to reassure Republicans as to what he intends to do in office, and so far, it appears that he is deliberately avoiding that.

George Soros hasn't spent his career in government, and neither has Progressive CEO Peter Lewis, both of whom are virtually socialists. So, the mere fact that someone is coming from the private sector provides me with zero confidence that they are a limited government conservative at all.

49 posted on 02/12/2016 8:58:21 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Trumpinator

Yes, incompetence does play into this but isnt the primary issue. Its lack of fidelity to a conservative world view. Threy blow in the wind and react to every poll thinking its the way forward. I would prefer a candidate with some track record of actions matching rhetoric.


50 posted on 02/12/2016 8:58:41 AM PST by 556x45
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Sean_Anthony

For me, there isn’t an ideological purity test... but there is a reverence for the Constitution test and a rule of law test. I trust Ted Cruz on those. Although I know where Trump stands on immigration, I don’t know where he stands on the rest of his prospective job description.


51 posted on 02/12/2016 8:58:52 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Durbin
“So we have this cognitive dissonance where limited govt espousing conservatives are voting for govt employee lifers.”

So I should just vote for the big businessman who says government will fix everything when he’s in charge? LOL. Ok.

--------------

That is your characterization. You can vote for the lifetime govt employee who has never had to meet a payroll or get anything done in the private sector his whole adult life.

52 posted on 02/12/2016 8:59:36 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Sean_Anthony
Trump’s Not a Conservative Icon, and I Don’t Care!

The problem is not whether Trump is a conservative icon or not. The problem is Trump is simply not conservative.

53 posted on 02/12/2016 8:59:51 AM PST by gdani ("I can be the most politically correct person you have ever seen")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sean_Anthony; All

When Cruz, Rubio and Trump gave their announcement speeches to run for president, the ONLY one of them that sounded ‘conservative’ was Donald Trump. Cruz sounded like John Lennon, asking dozens of times for us to ‘imagine’.....

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3396178/posts


54 posted on 02/12/2016 9:00:20 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sybeck1

Exactly!

see http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3396178/posts


55 posted on 02/12/2016 9:01:19 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Well, you apparently believe that anyone who has spent their career in government is automatically not a limited government conservative.

-----

A conservative lifetime govt employee is like a vampire sunbathing. It don't belong. That is cognitive dissonance on your part. The ideal has always been a conservative enters politics for a time and returns to the private sector from which he came. Or upon retirement from the private sector spends his later years in politics.

56 posted on 02/12/2016 9:01:29 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: okie01
Ted Cruz. Since 2012.

I'm delighted to hear that I'm mistaken about this, since I've liked what I've heard of Cruz's other positions. But it's important to note that neither Cruz nor the other candidates have been able to generate nearly the attention to this topic that Trump has. For decades now, polls have shown that Americans have wanted an end to illegal immigration, specifically by building a wall. The GOP establishment candidates have continually responded by instead coming up with amnesty proposals and easy paths to citizenship for the illegals already here, as if that is an acceptable alternative to real border control.
57 posted on 02/12/2016 9:01:43 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Trumpinator

“That is your characterization.”

All he did was twist the rhetoric that somehow he’s going to be the one that gets the government to fix everything. I’ve heard a different version of that fiddle played before.


58 posted on 02/12/2016 9:03:12 AM PST by Durbin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: 556x45
Yes, incompetence does play into this but isnt the primary issue. Its lack of fidelity to a conservative world view.

----

We have seen that before. Reminds me of Union generals appointed for their adherence to the Republican party over their competence. It did not end well for their troops.

59 posted on 02/12/2016 9:03:17 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: Durbin
“That is your characterization.”

All he did was twist the rhetoric that somehow he’s going to be the one that gets the government to fix everything. I’ve heard a different version of that fiddle played before.

----

Conservatives are for limited govt not zero govt. I think you are looking for the Libertarian party which is next door. Good people. A little odd but good people.

60 posted on 02/12/2016 9:05:42 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 181-182 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson