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Why NH Should Vote for Ted Cruz and not Donald Trump
Granite Grok ^ | February 7, 2016 | Steve MacDonald

Posted on 02/08/2016 6:27:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Ted Cruz knows that you are the best hope for saving America. But to do that you need a president willing to get the government out of the way so that you can.

"... just like the left, Donald Trump's solutions are all built on the "smarts" of certain gifted people and then empowering those people to navigate the world for the masses. By contrast Ted Cruz' campaign is built on the strength of a set of ideas, where rights, power and responsibility belong to every citizen, not just the gifted few. This is the self-governing model our nation was founded upon, which produced the most free and prosperous nation in history.

America does not merely need "smart" people to try to run our unworkable government and guide every aspect of our lives; America needs to return to smart ideas. A great step in that direction would be teaming up with Ted Cruz who, more than any other candidate still running, has demonstrated an unwavering commitment to limiting government corruption the only way possible - limiting government. Unlike most candidates this election, Ted Cruz has never promised to be the savior of America, rather he always points to the ideas that made America." (Read the whole thing at True North Reports.com)


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansenator; cruz; everyonedoesitexcuse; propagandadujour; tedcruz; tedspacificpartners
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To: Lagmeister
Lying? You saying Trump's history: his own stated positions that define his opinions and preferences and that consistently illustrate his "NYC-Values" and instincts are all lies? I don't believe you. I think I will believe Trump in TRUMPS OWN WORDS and not some lame, invective-filled, cultist who's posting history is *filled-to-the-brim* with personal attacks rather than reasoned refutations. Hey, I get your frustration - I'd hate to have to defend an indefensible candidate's sketchy, unarguably liberal recent past too!


101 posted on 02/09/2016 6:39:04 AM PST by jaydee770
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To: NH Liberty
he still beats HRC

No he doesn't. A poll that compares something to nothing is talking-head fodder but bears no comparison to reality - Cruz is still a national unknown. Polls that ask about a favorable rating are practically just as bad.

This might be difficult for you to grasp but a candidate getting 28% of the vote in his own backyard is an actual true test of strength. Look at the voters who voted for that candidate, then extrapolate that across the country.

Stalin could get 45% of the national vote in the democrat party. Take any known republican and they will start at least a few percentages below that. Take an unknown republican and they should score higher against a disliked democrat. That is all you are seeing now.

As I mentioned, only Trump is known nationally and is therefore right now where he needs to be. Once you get the true crossover votes that will come, Trump wins.

Once Cruz is known - his appearance and religiosity - sad to say, he is doomed. Doesn't matter if you believe me. But logic will tell you that a guy that can't get 30% of the vote in the best situation in no way is going to get 50% of the national vote... no way.

102 posted on 02/09/2016 6:41:05 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: heshtesh

Nope!


103 posted on 02/09/2016 6:44:27 AM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: jaydee770
I guess asking you semi politely to stop spamming these BS lying memes falls to deaf ears. So, look, Cruz has already been given the keys to the political kingdom and we've gotten:(pretend I am posting this with a pic of Cruz's ugly mug)

TPA/Corker/wants 500% increase in H-1B visas/Takes out no timeline repayment margin loan from Goldman Sachs and purposely leaves it off his FEC form/lies about anchor babies/Takes GOPe position of wanting to deport criminal illegals only [snicker] but not deadbeat illegals/will not waterboard to find dirty bombs planted in a city/scams voters/sends out offensive and illegal mailers/approves PAC money from hedge fund manager that owes 6 billion in taxes/lies about eminent domain and on and on and so forth...

and topped off with a fleece the flock professorial manner and general off-putting appearance. Did I miss anything? So, okay, spam another pic.

104 posted on 02/09/2016 7:07:20 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: Cowman

Poor cover for posting your lie.


105 posted on 02/09/2016 7:18:40 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: Jane Long

Jane, I think that it’s interesting that Trump supporters slobber on and on about the intelligence and hard work that it took for him to become a billionaire but then turn around and pull the left wing stunt of vilifying non-candidate billionaire donors.


106 posted on 02/09/2016 8:10:32 AM PST by cowboyway (We're not going to be able to vote our way out of this mess.)
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To: Lagmeister
I'm not spamming, I'm posting graphic and quite pertinent comments. But coming from a chronic spammer of insults and invective who refuses to clean up his act, that's a bit hypocritical.

"...So, okay, spam another pic..."

Well, since you asked so nicely:


107 posted on 02/09/2016 8:28:48 AM PST by jaydee770
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To: entropy12
If you are not independently wealthy you can still run a grass roots campaign. Example: Bernie Sanders....he does not accept money from ultra-rich donors and is still beating Hillary

Well, well. "Conservatives" vilifying the financially successful and heaping praise on the commies "grass roots" donors.

Here's a list of the commies top donors:


Machinists/Aerospace Workers Union $105,000
Teamsters Union $93,700
National Education Assn $89,242
United Auto Workers $79,750
United Food & Commercial Workers Union $72,500
Communications Workers of America $68,000
Laborers Union $64,000
Carpenters & Joiners Union $62,000
National Assn of Letter Carriers $61,000
American Assn for Justice $60,500
American Fedn of St/Cnty/Munic Employees $58,198
Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $53,100
United Transportation Union $48,500
Sheet Metal Workers Union $47,000
Operating Engineers Union $46,100
Service Employees International Union $44,014
UNITE HERE $42,875
United Steelworkers $41,750
American Postal Workers Union $37,700
American Federation of Teachers $36,112

A bunch of union thugs! I guess it took a Trump candidacy to bring out the left wing side of FR.

108 posted on 02/09/2016 8:30:43 AM PST by cowboyway (We're not going to be able to vote our way out of this mess.)
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To: Leto

Cruz seems to think that the son of a Cuban, born in Canada to an American mother is what the founders would consider a natural born US citizen. How is that showing fidelity to original intent of our Constitution? Cruz also supported TPP and other globalist trade deals which overturn our laws and constitutional protections. How is that showing fidelity to original intent of our Constitution? Cruz also supported legalization for illegal invaders. How is that showing fidelity to original intent of our Constitution? I’ll take a plain spoken successful business man over a forked tongue lawyer any day.


109 posted on 02/09/2016 8:48:54 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Lagmeister
But back to your weak list:

"...TPA/Corker/wants 500% increase in H-1B visas/Takes out no timeline repayment margin loan from Goldman Sachs and purposely leaves it off his FEC form/lies about anchor babies/Takes GOPe position of wanting to deport criminal illegals only [snicker] but not deadbeat illegals/will not waterboard to find dirty bombs planted in a city/scams voters/sends out offensive and illegal mailers/approves PAC money from hedge fund manager that owes 6 billion in taxes/lies about eminent domain..."

My reply, modeled after your "TrumpleThinSkin" examples: Those are all lies, untruths and made up fantasies and you are a poopy-head. <--- See! That's how the trump-cultist's intellectual dishonesty works!

So where were we about Trump... Oh yes! Trump's "NYC-VALUES" history:

Because to swallow his ability to *suddenly* become a "conservative" requires a larger dose of Liberal-Logic than I'm willing to take:


110 posted on 02/09/2016 8:51:00 AM PST by jaydee770
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To: jpsb

The law says he is a NBC,

Trump has been a leftist all his life and a crony capitalist to boot. He copied Cruz on the wall. So what.I NOTE YOU AND A COUPLE OF OTHER TRUMPITEERS showed all in August, how much is trump paying you?
:D


111 posted on 02/09/2016 9:07:57 AM PST by Leto
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To: jaydee770

I realize they don’t ban for stupidity. But maybe they ban for spamming bandwidth. You’re a moron.


112 posted on 02/09/2016 9:12:38 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: cowboyway

cowboy...don’t overlook the CRuz supporters slobbering. We need to install showers, here at FR, or mops/buckets...for the clean up.

Btw....big difference between investors investing in private developments/businesses and those investing in candidates who will curry legislation favor...aka are owned...for their (Cheap Labor, etc) interests.

RE development investors certainly don’t own the developer...or vice versa!


113 posted on 02/09/2016 9:14:57 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: entropy12

Ronald Reagan wasn’t a Democrat running as a Republican.


114 posted on 02/09/2016 9:18:55 AM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Leto
The law says he is a NBC

That is simply not true. Our constitution give Congress authority over our naturalization process. So if the law (legislation) makes you a citizen you are a naturalized citizen, not a natural born citizen. FYI the 14th amendment is not legislation it is the constitution.

115 posted on 02/09/2016 9:22:00 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: jpsb

116 posted on 02/09/2016 9:57:27 AM PST by Heart-Rest ( "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!" Isaiah 5:20)
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To: jpsb

You are correct, congress make the relevant, in Cruz’s case the relevant law is from 1952, as per that law he is define try a NBC due to his mother.


117 posted on 02/09/2016 10:06:43 AM PST by Leto
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To: Jane Long
Btw....big difference between investors investing in private developments/businesses and those investing in candidates who will curry legislation favor...aka are owned...for their (Cheap Labor, etc) interests.

Uhhhh, Trump was (perhaps still is) one of those investing in candidates who will curry favored legislation.......

118 posted on 02/09/2016 10:15:24 AM PST by cowboyway (We're not going to be able to vote our way out of this mess.)
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To: cowboyway

This seems like dejavu, all over again. :)

Once, again....

Donors own candidates.

Candidates don’t own donors.

Private RE investors don’t own developers, nor do developers own private investors.

I cannot simplify this any more, for you.

Have a good day, cbw.


119 posted on 02/09/2016 10:21:19 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: cowboyway

That is Peanuts compared to this list:
Please try to learn proportions and size.
That is a great way to be successful in life.

Despite Cruz^s attacks on his party^s donor class and establishment, the Texas senator Ted Cruz^s GOP campaign has received $37 million from just four donors.

The Wilks family of Cisco, Texas, New York hedge fund tycoon Bob Mercer, Texas energy investor Toby Neugebauer and Illinois manufacturing moguls Dick and Liz Uihlein.


120 posted on 02/09/2016 10:44:01 AM PST by entropy12 (Trump is the only one not bought off by ultra-rich donors.)
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