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To: sheikdetailfeather

Big difference between liberals and Conservatives, we don’t go in for group think. Unlike the Left, Conservatives don’t look to a “Conservative Establishment” to tell us what we should do or think.

Conservatives are the Blacks on the GOP plantation.

For decades we have shook our heads wondering why blacks line up to vote for the Dims decade after decade despite the utter destruction the Dims have brought to their community.

Trump has made many of them realize Conservatives are the Blacks of the GOP plantation. We line up year after year, sacrifice our time and money, and what do we get? A GOP political machine this is virtually identical to the Dims who comes around every 2 years saying “If you just give us this, everything will be awesome.”

Ask yourself this. Despite giving the entire Government to the GOP under Bush, was any item on the Conservative agenda advanced?

Sadly the answer is NO. And what many of us are realizing is the tools of the Conservative establishment i.e. National Review, Town-hall, Heritage Foundation, Club for Growth, Weekly Standard, Fox News, etc are the GOP equivalents of the “Civil Rights Leaders” that keep Blacks on the Democrat’s plantation.They all like to posture as “Anti Establishment” but all make their money by keeping “politics as usual” running in DC. Well new for the “Conservative” Media Establishment Like National Review, Eric Erickson, Bill Kristol, Fox News etc., time to get out of your media bubble worlds, stop with your ivory tower theorizing and try seeing what life is like for us out here in “fly over” land.

Cruz is just the latest red herring of this “keep the Conservatives on the plantation” stick. Cruz does not have the ability to go over the heads of the political/media/business machine and get the American people behind him. Cruz will mouth all the right slogans and do nothing but what the Political/Media/Business machine tells him to do. If he oppose them, he will be tied up with phony media manufactured scandals and a uniformly hostile Congressional Leadership until he knuckles under in desperation to build SOMETHING for his “legacy”

You are going to have to tear down the DC Political/Business/Media machine before it can be rebuilt. Trump can do that, Cruz cannot. The national body politic needs radical chemotherapy, not a tummy tuck, a nose job and some Botox injections.


4 posted on 01/22/2016 5:25:54 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: MNJohnnie

Well, said.


7 posted on 01/22/2016 5:30:50 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: MNJohnnie

Then why is the GOPe lining up to support Trump instead of Cruz?


8 posted on 01/22/2016 5:32:07 AM PST by Axeslinger (Trump: the Kaitlyn Jenner of conservatism. One's not a woman, one's not a conservative.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Yours is a thoughtful response. Well done.


9 posted on 01/22/2016 5:33:09 AM PST by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Great response.


10 posted on 01/22/2016 5:35:30 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather
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To: MNJohnnie

Precisely. Well written !


13 posted on 01/22/2016 5:39:21 AM PST by hoosiermama (Make America Great Again by uniting Great Americans)
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To: MNJohnnie

EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!


18 posted on 01/22/2016 5:45:31 AM PST by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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To: MNJohnnie

Well said


20 posted on 01/22/2016 5:46:32 AM PST by Guenevere (If.the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: MNJohnnie

yes, the Conservative establishment has been ineffective and your analog is useful. Thanks


21 posted on 01/22/2016 5:47:16 AM PST by tgdunbar
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To: MNJohnnie

Excellent! I love the analogy.


22 posted on 01/22/2016 5:50:47 AM PST by CedarDave (Rubio has missed more votes than any current senator; now he thinks he deserves a promotion.)
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To: MNJohnnie
So the way to avoid being disappointed by conservatives who don't follow through on their promises is to elect someone who isn't conservative. That way, you know ahead of time that he'll push a moderate to liberal agenda, and so won't be disappointed.

I fail to see how that is an improvement.

My logic for voting for Trump in the general election is at the least, he'll give ws better Court nominees than would the Dems. But then again, he did just start quoting Lawrence Tribe, so i guess you never know....

26 posted on 01/22/2016 5:56:08 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: MNJohnnie

To quote Mr. Burns from the Simpsons....Excellent.
Go Trump


27 posted on 01/22/2016 5:58:05 AM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: MNJohnnie
Conservatives are the Blacks on the GOP plantation.

This is exactly right. I've been using this same analogy for over a year, ever since the complete sellout of conservatives became obvious after the last election.

I agree with your entire post...Trump is the only guy running who has a shot at making a real difference in Washington. I know that he's probably going to take some positions as President that will give me agida, but I also know that he will put America first and fight for this country. Trump's not saying anything new about his fundamental policy positions. Read any of his books, or look at his video's from decades ago. He was saying the same things then and he was right. He's got my full support.

34 posted on 01/22/2016 6:12:11 AM PST by pgkdan (Trump/Cruz 2016!)
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To: MNJohnnie

I don’t necessarily disagree with the premise of your argument, but I would submit that, since NONE of the establishment candidates are at the top of GOP polls anywhere, conservatives are fleeing the GOP plantation in droves.

To paraphrase a bit, I agree that there is no monolithic conservative movement, per se. Like the tea party movement itself, conservativism includes - or should include - conservatives of all stripes who are fed up with the role of government, media, academia and law, i.e., progressivism, in destroying our country and intruding on absolutely every aspect of our lives.

I agree with the fact that Cruz may not be able to unite conservatives of all stripes and that Trump may be able to unite not only conservatives, but a helluva lot of moderates and a pretty decent number of Democrats. I do not, however, agree with the fact that Cruz is the latest version of Dole/McCain/Romney and a stalking horse for the establishment. There isn’t one shred of evidence that he has any support within the GOP establishment, whereas Trump is (apparently) gaining the support of at least some establishment politicians who absolutely hate Ted Cruz.


37 posted on 01/22/2016 6:15:08 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: MNJohnnie

Great post.


41 posted on 01/22/2016 6:21:51 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: MNJohnnie

almost perfect...

one problem:
“Cruz will mouth all the right slogans and do nothing but what the Political/Media/Business machine tells him to do.”

CRUZ? Maybe Rubio... but NOT CRUZ.

Cruz has never done anything to deserve that. Cruz will fight the machine will all he has....he has shown that....but he just doesn’t have the gifts that Trump does. If Cruz were to win the Rep nomination, he would have to face not just Dems demonizing him the - the way Hillary is demonized to us- but also the entire media doing the same to him....he just doesn’t have the charisma and media pizazz that trump has to overcome that kind of mass bulldozing.

But please- don’t undo all your legitimate points by including a lie about Cruz...


42 posted on 01/22/2016 6:21:58 AM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE thatEARTH....Archimedes)
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To: MNJohnnie; Jane Long; hoosiermama

You are going to have to tear down the DC Political/Business/Media machine before it can be rebuilt. Trump can do that, Cruz cannot. The national body politic needs radical chemotherapy, not a tummy tuck, a nose job and some Botox injections.
*****
Awesome post!

Trump has revealed to us something about ourselves (as mentioned in your post) that we have been in a state of “hoping for change”. Trump has shown his supporters about the power of the electorate when energized and inspired by a leader.

Trump has exposed the great American deception of controlled opposition in the “conservatives” involved in the NRO effort to stop Trump.

The controlled opposition including talk radio hosts, have told voters time and again, “well maybe next time”, and pulled the football away in Lucy-like fashion.

In the following Trump interview from 2012, Trump says this country needs major surgery. Trump was asked about running for president, to “lead the way”. Trump said he hopes someone else would emerge as a leader.

Of those who signed on to the manifesto, did they step up? Trump DID step up!

13:50 minutes
Donald Trump interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1kFqviAEHw
May 5 2012


52 posted on 01/22/2016 8:07:02 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: MNJohnnie

Huzzah!! It’s past time to scourge the elitist political hacks from the halls of our government.


54 posted on 01/22/2016 8:44:31 AM PST by yuleeyahoo ( Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him. - Groucho Marx)
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To: MNJohnnie

Very good!


57 posted on 01/22/2016 9:11:50 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Proud bitter clinger)
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To: MNJohnnie

Very nice!!!


78 posted on 01/24/2016 7:16:47 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the GOPee does not want you.)
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