Posted on 12/14/2015 1:47:21 PM PST by w1n1
What rifle calibers are you stockpiling?
If you were going to pick a rifle caliber for a long term SHTF situation, what would that caliber be?
For some reason I woke up this morning thinking about my 7mm express / 280 Remington, and how the panic buying back in the first half of 2013 caused a shortage in ammunition supplies.
When I got my Remington model 700 chambered in 280, I wanted something that was around the 270 or 30-06, and that would also work on heavier game such as elk and moose.
In all honesty I put too much thought into picking the 280 Remington. While it's a fine caliber, the price of ammunition has gone up so much that shooting has gotten downright expensive. With a box of 20 rounds costing more than $25, stockpiling is cost prohibitive.
And let's be perfectly honest, there is nothing the 280 Remington / 7mm express can do that either the 270 Winchester or 30-06 Springfield cannot do.
There comes a point when survivalists are stockpiling too many calibers. We need to get out of this "buy a new rifle, stockpile a new caliber, buy a new rifle, stockpile a new caliber" roller coaster.
During the great ammo panic of 2013, what calibers were available? Or maybe the question should be what calibers were not available? I'll tell you what, let's talk about both.
30-30 Winchester After its introduction in 1895, the 30-30 Winchester has won a loyal following for its reliability. There is a reason why the 30-30 is considered to be the gun that won the west. Excluding military calibers and the 22 long rifle, if I had to pick a single cartridge for a long term SHTF / TEOTWAWKI situation, it would probably be the 30-30 Winchester.
Why the 30-30 Winchester? Because it has a proven track record of over a hundred years on deer sized game. Chances are no other modern caliber has killed more deer than the 30-30. Read the rest of the story here. What are you all carrying?
I’m all for debates and disagreement, but acting like an a-hole is uncalled for.
22 mag
The 7.62x25 ammo caught my eye. Also great price on a dew mags I could use.
That’s what I’m talking about.
Hell, I guess Ed Brown, Bill Wilson and Les Baer didn’t get the “.45 ACP obsolete” memo because they still stamp their barrels that way.
Accuracy-wise, the Marlin795 is more accurate than the 10-22.
Marlins do tend to be accurate, often very accurate.
I have a Marlin .22 mag which I bought used. It had a cheap scope already mounted and I was going to put a slightly better one on but the gun shot so well that I just left it as it was.
The odd thing, is the rifle is not particularly well finished and the mag just seems to hold the cartridges out in space. It looks like they would just jam all the time but in fact it functions perfectly. It is one of the few .22 magnums I have seen which will consistently do 1 inch or even less at 100 yards.
I’ll not argue that at all. I’ll just say I have total confidence in mine. Just like my wife, and just like my beagle
I have never in over fifty years found a 10-22 jam that was not the fault of the ammo, never the gun. The only way to get jams with those box mags is to never take it apart and clean it. And the new 25rnd mags are just as reliable ... so far. Mag reliability is what makes the 10-22 more reliable than the Marlin mag feds.
Had a pistol in 762x25 but traded it out when I decided to consolidate calibers.
“When the SHTF, this rifle has to be a meat-getter as well as for shooting “Cansâ€. For that reason, the .223 is off the table for me.”
The 5.56/.223 will easily kill deer/pigs, and in a pinch would do fine on elk/moose/bear as well - especially given 30 round mags and/or good shot placement.
The key is using the right bullet. The mono Barnes TTSX bullets retain around 100% weight and penetrate plenty deep while expanding reliably. For the 5.56 the 55 grain variety might be about optimum for hunting.
There are lots more good .224 bullets out there for hunting as well. For instance read the reviews for the 64 grain Sierra Gameking here:
That’s a nice inexpensive bullet that shoots accurately in many a gun...
Note that you your referenced advertisement even refers to something identified as a .45 Long Colt. There is no such cartridge. Never has been. Never will be. Nor is there a .45 Short Colt, .45 Medium Colt, .45 Extra Long Colt or .45 Extremely long Colt.
For all you folks out there that insist on the right to rename cartridges, should the .45 GAP be renamed the .45 Short ACP or the .45 Short Auto?
Maybe you and your friends (got any?) can rename the the .357 Magnum as the .38 Long Special.
People with abundant knowledge and confidence often seem arrogant to those without.
Or maybe you’re so bent out of shape on nomenclature for the same reason kids get so bent when you get the words to their pop songs wrong.....
Regardless of what you may have accumulated as knowledge, ignoring your arrogance, you are just rude. Your modus of just playing insult the posters also paints you as a lout. Your ‘knowledge’ is useless when you are so rude as to be commonly ignored. Put another way, so we’re sure you get the point, you’re so rude we don’t give a hoot what you ‘know’. Like a petulant child, you demand to be respected yet show behavior undeserving of respect. We readers might forgive your asshattery, if you’re plagued with mild autism.
My go to rifle is a 577 Tyrannosaur. When the Thunder Lizards invade I want to be ready.
re: 45 nomenclature
If you care have a look at -—sightm1911.com-—the 45 Auto Cartridge History page——— for the EIGHT permutations for the prospective new Army cartridge.The one finally adopted was the UMC M1909 round sans bullet cannelure.
UMC headstamped their round as 45 ACP. Frankford Arsenal used FA8-—11. Winchester’s entries were W.R.A. Co. .45 A.C.
None of them were marked 45 Auto. Apparently the Union Metallic Cartridge Company and the US Army didn’t get the memo that they were not allowed to use the 45 ACP nomenclature.
Heavy rifle (big game or sniping) .308 or .30-06
light rifle (self defense) .223/5.56
shotgun 12 ga
defensive handgun 9mm or .45
practice/small game .22 rifle
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