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Yesterday Trump called Politico dishonest. Today he is spreading their Ben Carson lie.
Red State ^ | October 6, 2015 | southernconstitutionalist

Posted on 11/06/2015 11:58:15 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

RedState's own Leon Wolf did a great job exposing the Politico story about Ben Carson and West Point as a lie. Washington Post reporter Dave Weigel is also churning out great information on Twitter regarding the story.

I want to focus on what Donald Trump is doing with the story, however.

Yesterday, November 5, Donald Trump had this to say about Politico:

Look, Politico is so dishonest in so many different things. This Politico website or whatever the hell they call it, I mean, they write about me. We don't deal with them anymore because the level of dishonesty is incredible.

Today, November 6, Donald Trump is spreading the false Politico story about Ben Carson. Below is one of the several Trump Tweets citing the Politico piece.

What an incredible turnaround. It appears Trump is willing to do whatever it takes to destroy Carson, who is poised to disrupt his position as GOP frontrunner.

Yesterday, Trump seized on the silly CNN investigation of Carson's childhood. According to Trump, Carson's childhood might be a "total fabrication.?

Ironically, much of Trump's support is due to the perception that he tells the truth and shuns the mainstream media. It is now clear that he will abandon that notion when it suits him politically.


TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: carson; deadstate; demagogicparty; erickerickson; gopprimary; memebuilding; msm; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; pinkstate; redstain; redstate; rotc; trump
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To: Ravenstar
It is interesting how Trump supporters can ignore the fact that he is a major proponent for the result of the Kelo decision

Everybody knows about it, but they know that it's not very important and also you run into trouble if you support the Keystone Pipeline.

Ben Carson is an honorable man that understands that it is supposed to be for,

Carson supports TPP "with reservations," one day after it gets published, and also is an amnesty pimp.

161 posted on 11/07/2015 5:23:06 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tennmountainman
Financial and Service Obligation As a cadet, you are a member of the U.S. Army and receive a full scholarship and an annual salary of more than $10,000 from which you pay for your uniforms, textbooks, a laptop computer, and incidentals.

This was taken from the West Point explanation of what a candidate receives.

Will you please STFU, your brother received a full scholarship, West Point says so, just because you think you know all things, you don't.

162 posted on 11/07/2015 5:25:53 AM PST by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I do think Cruz will cruise on by. Time will tell.

We have much to be concerned about in the meantime.


163 posted on 11/07/2015 5:27:08 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Cold Heat

Pyramids are solid rock, except for a few narrow passages. They are not buildings.


164 posted on 11/07/2015 5:29:35 AM PST by odawg
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To: Cold Heat

Yes, 95% of Egyptologists disagree with Gentle Ben’s Pyramid as grain silo’s theory. Was on Fox News last night, and Fox typically shills for Carson, as they hate Trump and want him brought down. That’s 95% of the experts who think the Pyramids were for dead Pharoah and Family bodies only, not for grain. And Joseph didn’t build them either.

But Cold Heat disagrees. His turn to present his case. Oh, and Carson didn’t say some obscure grain silos in outlying areas shaped like steppe pyramids or regular pyramids. He said the Pyramids. Period. Where dead Pharoahs hung out while trying to ignore all the piles of grain surrounding their mummy cases.

Good Morning Cold. Hope you got some sleep.


165 posted on 11/07/2015 5:31:53 AM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Politico hit piece aside, still doesn’t explain the inconsistencies that still remain in Carson’s story, like how he was offered a scholarship to a school that doesn’t use them by a general who would have known this, or why Carson equivocated on Hannity about whether he had actually met Westmoreland.


166 posted on 11/07/2015 5:32:01 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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To: Cold Heat

Yes, 95% of Egyptologists disagree with Gentle Ben’s Pyramid as grain silo’s theory. Was on Fox News last night, and Fox typically shills for Carson, as they hate Trump and want him brought down. That’s 95% of the experts who think the Pyramids were for dead Pharoah and Family bodies only, not for grain. And Joseph didn’t build them either.

But Cold Heat disagrees. His turn to present his case. Oh, and Carson didn’t say some obscure grain silos in outlying areas shaped like steppe pyramids or regular pyramids. He said the Pyramids. Period. Where dead Pharoahs hung out while trying to ignore all the piles of grain surrounding their mummy cases.

Good Morning Cold. Hope you got some sleep.


167 posted on 11/07/2015 5:32:11 AM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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To: Cold Heat

“Up to today, while I could not support Trump, I did not dislike him.”

You must be unable to remember your previous posts or that we can easily view them.


168 posted on 11/07/2015 5:33:28 AM PST by odawg
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To: jimbo807

There is no such thing as a “humble” neurosurgeon.


169 posted on 11/07/2015 5:35:03 AM PST by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“CW has unhinged anger towards Trump because he exposed Walker as a weak candidate and it led to him dropping out of the race. When Walker was in the process of sinking, she was lashing out in all directions, and now Trump is the singular focus of her hate and bile.”

Ditto. Right you are, field.


170 posted on 11/07/2015 5:37:42 AM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This will NOT sway me to support Carson. He has lots more to answer for.


171 posted on 11/07/2015 5:38:10 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: j.argese

Yep. His popularity is that he is the anti-trump. Flashes of anger will not work to his benefit. The more he is probed the more he will be exposed.


172 posted on 11/07/2015 5:43:50 AM PST by jimbo807
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You have a point... but then again, as far as this story is concerned, so does Red State


173 posted on 11/07/2015 5:50:06 AM PST by UncleRicosFootball
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To: jimbo807

I see him more of the embodiment of MLK’s dream. I think he is trying to tell his story in a nutshell yet he is being caught up in the details. This was never an issue for our current Won. Remember his girlfriend who was only a copulation.


174 posted on 11/07/2015 5:51:45 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Boardwalk

I don’t see him that way, but you are free to have your opinion.

Think most of his past is either made up or exaggerated to the point of being made up. Just a gut feeling.

He’s getting extremely confrontational now which is out of character.


175 posted on 11/07/2015 5:54:09 AM PST by jimbo807
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To: jimbo807

I meant to say composite not copulation. OK, coffee time!


176 posted on 11/07/2015 5:55:57 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I see the conflict. I dont like the conflict. I like both Ben and Donald. But I understand and accept that part of the Donalds personality. I know it is a product of his rough and tumble NY big business lifestyle, but underneath it lies a very sweet guy.
177 posted on 11/07/2015 5:57:44 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
As usual, Trump is prepared to join arm-in-arm with Hillary and the MSM.

Three days ago, on Wednesday, A Quinnipiac poll came out showing Carson beating Hillary by 10 in the general. THE NEXT DAY, in a testimony to the MSM's ability to lap up talking points from Democrat campaigns, every network was wall-to-wall anti-Carson stories including the Politico fiction. The whole thing is an obvious hit job from Hillary's flying monkeys in the media.

178 posted on 11/07/2015 6:01:38 AM PST by denydenydeny ("World History is not full of good governments, or of good voters either "--P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

As I said, where I come from, that’s not “involvement.”

That he made all kinds of money making speeches and writing books only makes my point stronger. He gives speeches for any group that gives money to the Washington Speaker’ Bureau. In fact, it’s quite possible, if all appearances were booked through the bureau, that he never even received a check from Mannatech, but rather from the bureau, less their fee.

By “involved,” I mean something greater than the de minimis (it’s Latin, but don’t be afraid of it) relationship of giving paid speeches.

I’ll show you “involved”:

1. I own a business. Up until July, I ran it day to day. I was intimately, substantively involved. Then I became disabled in July. Now, my wife, who had de minimis involvement till then, had to become substantively involved now that I can no longer run the business day to fay.

2. My business cooperates with a start-up. I helped start the start-up assisted in designing its services and products, and have been involved with the management decisions of the start-up. I also own shares. I am involved with that start-up business.

3. The start-up owns a piece of another corporation, and the two have interlocking boards of directors. I have been involved with the other corporation, but not very heavily. I’m partly involved with them.

4. I own shares in another start-up. Sadly, it hasn’t gone anywhere. Although I am a shareholder of record, I currently have no involvement, though I did in the past.

5. I own shares in another start-up. I am vaguely aware of what they do. I knew a founder through our common Alma mater. I have no role with the company other than I gave them a bunch of money and they gave me some stock certificates. I have no involvement with the company.

6. I own some shares in a publicly-traded company. I’m not a major shareholder, an employee, a member of the board, I know no one who runs or works for the company. I’m not involved.

7. I own shares in a mutual fund. It owns shares in an ever-changing mix of companies. I’m not in any way related to the mutual fund or any of the companies it owns (I think, I can’t even name the companies in which it owns shares). I’m not a director or an employee or a major shareholder. It’s in my portfolio. I don’t even know the name of the mutual fund off the top of my head. I’m unrelated. Yet, I own shares.


179 posted on 11/07/2015 6:03:50 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no rmal, unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Cold Heat; HarleyLady27; Jane Long; MinuteGal; DoughtyOne; entropy12; hoosiermama

“Had he accepted, a form would have been filled out in his name and signed by the commandant of the regional ROTC and sent to WP admissions’”

Except for Carson never did fill it out, and there is no proof his ROTC Commandant ever sent anything in for him as he never filled out an application form for his Commandant to sign and send to West Point. It never happened. So how could Carson refuse an offer that was never made for an application that was never filled out by him or sent in by anyone. Hard to refuse an offer that never existed. And who gave him the offer? And who did Carson give his refusal to?

Round three Cold, lol. You just don’t come up with a plausible (emphasis on plausible) explanation for this. And Carson used the word “offer” in his autobiography, on his own Facebook page, and said it on PBS in his interview on the Charlie Rose show. He said “offer.” We all know what an offer means from West Point, and it’s not some nebulous thing. It’ something concrete.


180 posted on 11/07/2015 6:04:57 AM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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