Posted on 11/06/2015 10:33:53 AM PST by Art in Idaho
Pursuant discussion on the Anti-Muslim militia warns against refugee invasion at Idaho statehouse thread, and primarily from the comments of combat_boots and others, I thought it would be an idea to have a "grand central station" area to discuss ideas of ways and means to combat the Muslim invasion.
I'm going to encapsulate the main ideas from the other thread, lay them out here and hope everyone "thinks on it", contacts attorneys you know, get their ideas and see if we can have a central area for reference.
Hopefully, attorney FReepers will chime in and maybe the talk show hosts can address the issue and comment. If the whole country can get to thinking on this, bring their ideas, we ought to be able to do something.
As I mentioned on the other thread, I contacted Jay Sekulow at the American Center for Law and Justice and emailed Mark Levin. Please contact any attorneys you know, bounce these ideas around and see if they have some constructive ways to tackle this problem.
If reasonable ideas can coalesce into an actual suit filed in Federal Court, it may at least delay the importation of the invasion until January, 2017. Assuming we have a Republican administration, further steps can then be taken to stem the tide.
Ideas from combat_boots:
"Frankly, I believe a case at law could be brought that makes resettlement a tort against citizens of the area, said tort being the eradication and infringement of civil rights perpetrated by those being brought in as part of the un-amnesty of 0bamanoids and their accomplices in charity and governmental/non-governmental organizations. These illegals defraud the wholeness of American citizens' civil rights."
"Not a database, no vetting process for the 'immigrants' coming in". .
"The government could and should have the means, methods, and know how to prevent criminal aliens from committing crimes. If it willingly does not, the citizens have a case at law against the government itself."
"The depraved indifference that could apply in any criminal case would apply in civil court-especially where discrimination is demonstrated-against the citizens of the area."
"The other case that came to me was Dred Scott. In diluting American citizenry to less than it was, to the tune of 30-40 illegal aliens in this country, we are being made into 3/5 persons, especially since the prior 'amnesty.' In addition, we are paying cash money for that diminishment in support of illegal care and medical provision. I wonder if that diminishment of Personhood in the individual citizen is actionable against this government as a form of penal servitude, due to open borders and the refusal to maintain and defend the value of an individual's sovereignty, as understood by inalienability."
"Is there possible a case that permits US citizens to seek redress against the government, using the American Indian treaties/breach of, and forced immigration/settlement into the various cities and areas of the US that were used against the American Indians? Could it be possible to establish Interior zones governed as a nation, complete with payment by the so-called US government to empower the citizens of the nation?"
"Might there also be a case made, similar to the restitution of Japanese real estate seized in WWII, for infringement on community cohesion that is destroyed by illegal alien introduction and forced manipulation of real estate values by the McKinney decision (don't recall the name SCOTUS used, but it's an AA type housing gambit)"?
"There has to be a case made for the necessary unfunded mandates that places illegal aliens and others in communities. RICO should be brought, along with due process complaints, against the government."
"It is also my understanding that TINs are acquired through subterfuge by illegals, who then acquire driver's licenses. This should be stopped by law or by refusal to recognize provenance."
"RICO could be brought against Catholic and other charities and NGOs that engage in dropping in illegal aliens. Conspiracy to undermine federal law."
"I also think we have some 9th amendment cases possible against the illegal aliens being brought."
"Is there not a legality issue pertaining to fraud? Passport, name, origin, organizational sponsorship, money carried, work visa, etc?"
"Sometimes, the ideas roll on."
Then it is time for our "leaders", those WHO GIVE THE ORDERS, to start having "accidents" or just disappearing. Reinstate the fear.
Captainpaintball appears to be an “established FReeper”, here since October of 2000.
BACKSTORY: A sworn affidavit by Mexico consul general to a Texas court admits that Mexico official policy is to encourage its poor people to migrate here illegally in order to access the US’s generous welfare system......declaring that---Mexico is responsible to protect its nationals wherever they may be residing.
This explosive document filed in Texas by the government of Mexico adds fuel to the debate touched off by Donald Trump.....
THE MONEY QUOTE A footnote states that --- Mexican nationality is granted to children born abroad of a Mexican born parent. IOW, anchor babies born in the US retain parents Mexican nationality.
A sworn affidavit by Mexico’s consul general admits that Mexico’s official policy is to encourage its poor people to migrate here illegally in order to access the US’s generous welfare system......declaring that “Mexico is responsible to protect its nationals wherever they may be residing,â€
The Mexican consul’s sworn testimony asserts that “My responsibilities in this position include protecting the rights and promoting the interests of my fellow Mexican nationals†and “The main responsibility of consulates is to provide services, assistance, and protection to nationals abroad.â€
Ergo, Mexico’s assertion of continuing jurisdiction over its “nationals abroad,†is inconsistent with any claim to automatic US citizenship merely by reason of birth on US soil.
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MEXICO IS SLOBBERING AT THE US PUBLIC TROUGH The "impoverished" Mexicans here send BILLIONS of US tax dollars collected under multiple identities BACK to Mexico. The federales are getting a huge cut of that. Prolly Mexico also gets a fee for letting other countries use their border as a gathering place to slither into the US.
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Trump accurately tells Americans oil-rich Mexcio is ripping us off royally......and is pocketing billions from deal after deal. This is in addition to millions in US foreign aid to "help" them w/ then the drug cartel problem.
Somali Muslims "integrated" into the quaint New England state of Maine.
Looks like they just emerged from the freebie store.
Economic migrants getting-rich-quick---riding the US gravy train.
From what I could find, 31 states have RICO Laws: State Racketeering Laws and Introduction: RICO State by State: A Guide to Litigation Under the State Racketeering Statutes, Second Edition. Idaho RICO here: Idaho RICO: Chapter 78 RACKETEERING ACT
I like this quote from what you posted:
"NOTE If proof is established that RICOed criminal public officials impaired the commercial and economic activity of the region, that could also be prosecutable under the Hobbs Act.
There's no way a huge influx of these people is Not going to impair the commercial and economic activity of the region.
You can't be serious.
Bump and bookmark
“First by friendly tribes. When we didn’t react, our leaders lost their fear of us. Now we are being replaced by enemy tribes.”
Well put. Worth repeating.
Why on earth would you post such a thing?
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The First Amendment is clearly not our only recourse. Another amendment, one that follows shortly thereafter, may under appropriate circumstances provide the final and decisive recourse.
With all we’ve had to put up with, you’d think we would’ve used it by now.
Patriotic Americans are by nature less violent than America's enemies.
Leftist thugs are lazy slugs when it comes to productive work, but they are as energetic as imaginable whenever they can control productive people. Decent people are the opposite of democrats. We exercise the "duty to retreat" (which is actually a personal preference and not a legal or moral obligation) out of a desire to avoid violence; we'd rather live our own lives when that is an option.
It is only when we cannot safely retreat that we use the final recourse for defending freedom. Petty tyrants know that, and they take advantage of our good nature whenever they think it is safe to do so. I suspect they have finally misjudged how far they can push their desire for power.
Yes-—Hobbs is crucial. Has an astounding range of uses to nail elected/appointed officials and others on the public payroll.
I am aware of at least one case (could be more) where it was used to nail a local official...... he took bribes to vote a certain way....that vote imperiled the community’s economic viability.
NOTE: In passing state RICO laws We should pinpoint that the law is designed to nail indiviuals on the public payroll.....
That oughta throw a good scare into the nascent criminals.
EXHIBIT ONE: Bomb/clock hoaxer Clockmed's father ran several times for President of Sudan, his
Muslim homeland....traveling back and forth on your tax dollars (made possible under US immigration laws).
Father is second left.
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Seems the Clockmed's were suing Texas for their son's "rights" then decided to move to Quatar. I guess the Muslim parasites found out about "discovery"...that they were going to have to answer a lot of questions they would rather not be made public. For instance:
Taxpayers burdened by this frightening family of clock/bombers would demand to know:
<><> how many US govt checks is the Clockmed family cashing?
<><>did the father and mother claim "asylum" to suck up hefty monthly SS checks?
<><> did the Clockmed family falsify govt documents to collect food stamps, welfare, Section 8 housing?
<><> how many times did the father travel to campaign in Sudan on the taxpayers' dime?
<><> are Clockmed, his sister (an earlier bomb hoaxer), and their other siblings collecting disability checks for Attention Deficit Disorder---a common scam among parasitic immigrants.
<><> the bomber family's membership in Muslim organizations that advocate the overthrow of the US govt.
<><> did the Clockmeds register as agents for foreign governments?
<><>how many identities are the Clockmeds are using?
<><> are the Clockmed family registered to vote?
<><> how many timed did the Clockmeds vote illegally?
more below
Texas Muslim---Serial Killer of Christians---on Disability and Food Stamps,
had Diamonds and 200 Credit Cards Hidden on Texas property
Front Page Magazine | 6/20/2014 | Daniel Greenfield / FR Posted by Dqban22
This sort of thing is surprisingly common. The only reason it came to light is because the Texas Muslim settler committed two murders in Texas, one of which he actually got away with.
The murder of Christian believer, Gelareh Bagherzadeh, was reported earlier. Gelareh Bagherzadeh was an Iranian Christian who came to this country only to be murdered by a Muslim because she encouraged his daughter to marry the man she loved.
The Texas Muslim claimed he was too disabled to work. But he wasn't too disabled to kill.
BACKSTORY The Texan, a strict Muslim, was furious when his Jordanian-American daughter married a man without his permission. The Muslim, Ali Mahwood-Awad Irsan, blamed his daughter’s husband, relatives say. They say he also faulted one of her closest friends, 30-year-old Gelareh Bagherzadeh, a Christian convert who widely denounced Islam.
<><> First Christian-believer Bagherzadeh was killed, gunned down outside her parents’ Texas Galleria townhouse complex in January 2012.
<><> Eleven months later, Irsan’s son-in-law died after being shot multiple times in northwest Texas, in the Harris County apartment he shared with his wife.
The Texas Muslim thought he could get away with murdering because he had already gotten away with so many other things in Texas.
Federal authorities executed a search warrant at Irsan’s sprawling, 5-acre property 40 miles north of Houston, where they allegedly found cash, diamonds, pearls, weapons and phony passports hidden in attic rafters, in secret compartments throughout a cluster of trailers and outbuildings and even inside the buried drum of a clothes dryer at the Conroe, Texas property.
The Muslim Irsan, his wife Shmou Ali Alrawabdeh, and another daughter were subsequently arrested on a variety of federal fraud charges and are in federal custody.
A federal criminal complaint detailing the discoveries recounts a saga of nearly 20 years in which the 57-year-old naturalized citizen from Jordan, and his family, allegedly scammed taxpayer disability assistance funds claiming “fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue symptoms,†and “affective disorders†while secreting real estate, vehicles and cash in US and foreign bank accounts.
The complaint also alleges the Muslim Irsan:
<><> was receiving taxpayer funds for a son not living in the US,
<><> maintained several addresses on the property to facilitate various schemes, and,
<><> once disabled a safety feature on a saw then purposefully cut himself to receive a $75,000 settlement.
The Muslim Ali was certainly industrious and entrepreneurial, just not quite in the way amnesty advocates like to claim.
Also found on the property was a makeshift gun range, which witnesses said “five or six Muslim families†frequently visited to fire AK-47s and information about Irsan’s attempts to get a silencer. Nothing to do with Islam I’m sure.
The rest of the scam ...... While there have been no allegations of terrorist ties regarding the Muslim family’s alleged (a) foreign bank accounts, and, (b) suspicious wire transactions, Irsan’s strict adherence to radical Islam may have been a motive in the alleged murders.
Authorities are also re-examining a 1999 case in which Irsan was not indicted after claiming self-defense in the shooting of son-in-law Amjad Alidam, who was married to Nasemah Rachelle Irsan.
And that’s not all. Prosecutors also revealed, in connection to the social security fraud and credit card charges against Irsan, that they found more than 200 credit cards with various names and multiple variations of his own name throughout the Irwin Keel home.
Arresting officers say they also found more than 40 similar credit cards in his wallet the morning he was arrested. His daughter also alleges, among multiple other schemes detailed in court documents, that Ali Irsan purposely disabled the safety device on a Ryobi rotary saw and purposely cut his own foot. Prosecutors say he used that injury to receive a $75,000 settlement from the manufacturer.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/muslim-killer-on-disability-and-food-stamps-had-diamonds-and-200-credit-cards/print/
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REFERENCE Boston residents were outraged when the entire Chechnya family of the Boston Bomber were flown to his trial at taxpayers' expense.
BACKSTORY Immediately after the Boston bombing, then-Democrat Mass Gov Deval Patrick ordered Massachusetts govt agencies to conceal welfare documents from taxpayers. But sources who saw 500 pages of welfare documents (requested by a state legislator) told News Center 5 that the entire Chechnyan immigrant Tsarnaev family collected upwards of $100,00 tax dollars free and clear. MASS taxpayers financed the killing and maiming of their own friends and neighbors.
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MASSACHUSETTS TAXPAYERS WERE UNKNOWINGLY FORCED TO FINANCE THE TSARNEV BROTHERS' DIRTY DEEDS BIGTIME ---Chechen immigrants--the bombers' parents----were eligible as legal, non-citizen residents who claimed "asylum" status and met the eligibility criteria.
Multiple state agencies, on orders from Democrat Gov Deval Patrick (Obama's choice for Biden VP), refused to comment on the bomber brothers' welfare haul.
<><> WRT Tamerlan receiving UI benefits, Labor dept spokesman Kevin Franck refused to comment....
<><> Univ of Mass-- Dartmouth spokesman Robert Connolly refused to comment on the financial aid app of 19 -year-old soph Dzhokhar. 'It is our position - and I believe the accepted position in higher education - that student records including academic records and financial records (including financial aid) cannot under federal law be released without a student’s consent.'
<><> The FCC would not discuss whether the suspected bombers had govt- paid Obamaphones.
<><> Cambridge housing officials would not comment on if the brothers had Section 8 rental subsidy offered by the HUD to low income households.
<><> Chechen immigrants--the bombers' parents--were legal, non-citizen residents who claimed "asylum" status and met the eligibility criteria for endless SS checks.
<><> In sum, while planning the bombing, the Chechneyan immigrants received every conceivable tax-paid public benefit available out there.
Clockmed, Muslim Ali and the Tsarnaevs. . What a mess. I'm sure they're all schooled on how to 'work the system' before they arrive or shortly after they're here.
It's a win-win for the democrats. They can get more dem voters and bankrupt the system - Cloward-Piven on steroids so to speak, so they can 'come to the rescue' and implement more tyranny. So Muslims are even better than illegals from south of the border because they can bankrupt the system faster. These America hating dems are evil. And the topper is they use the 'we care' moniker as cover for their evil ways.
We have to STOP the Muslim invasion. The survival of our Sacred Republic depends on it.
What a depraved desecration of their maimed and dead loved ones that Boston bombing victins were forced...by law... to pay for the bomber Muslims every whim-—including bringing the entire family over for the trial.
That is a disgrace and will happen with every Muslim that comes over here. I read on another thread that it cost $64,000 + for every Muslim 'immigrant' that comes over on these programs. Who's paying for that? How can we taxpayers afford that with $20 Trillion in debt and $200 Trillion in unfunded liabilities? On paper, we can't afford Anything. . .
Good enough for me!
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