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Legal Recourse Discussion Thread Regarding the Muslim Invasion
November 6, 2015 | Art in Idaho

Posted on 11/06/2015 10:33:53 AM PST by Art in Idaho

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Thank you combat_boots for these excellent ideas. Let's all think about this, contact attorneys we know and post other ideas here.
1 posted on 11/06/2015 10:33:53 AM PST by Art in Idaho
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It starts with calling it what it is... invasion.


2 posted on 11/06/2015 10:36:38 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Art in Idaho

We are being replaced.

First by friendly tribes. When we didn’t react, our leaders lost their fear of us. Now we are being replaced by enemy tribes.


3 posted on 11/06/2015 10:39:23 AM PST by marron
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To: Art in Idaho

How do we know you are not some scumbag 0bama supporter/minion in government? You need to get/earn an endorsement from JimRob or another established freeper. Your idea is great, though.


4 posted on 11/06/2015 10:44:44 AM PST by Captainpaintball (Immigration without assimilation is the death of a nation -- FUJB!!!)
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To: combat_boots; freedomjusticeruleoflaw; marron; LucyT; stephenjohnbanker
Just received this from Jay Sekulow at American Center for Law & Justice (ACLJ):

"Thank you for your inquiry to the American Center for Law & Justice (ACLJ). Our legal staff has reviewed the information you sent regarding what actions can be taken. We have determined that the ACLJ is unable to assist you at this time because this matter does not present an issue that the ACLJ can address on your behalf."

"Our area of practice is limited to constitutional law with an emphasis on religious liberties protected within the First Amendment freedoms of speech, assembly, and exercise of religion."

Maybe someone at ACLJ will review the thread periodically and comment. We would welcome that or any comments from major national firms.

5 posted on 11/06/2015 10:56:59 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Captainpaintball
How do we know you are not some scumbag 0bama supporter/minion in government? You need to get/earn an endorsement from JimRob or another established freeper. Your idea is great, though.

I can wholly assure you I am not the former and in regards to the latter, I didn't know an endorsement was needed. Am sending this to JimRob for okay.

6 posted on 11/06/2015 11:06:43 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

I suspect that our only recourse is to use our first amendment rights to ‘petition the government for redress of grievances.’ That means starting a movement to push back on refugee settlement within the states by contacting our representatives, & if necessary having protests in front of state houses. We should insist that Muslim refugees be sent to Muslim countries, not here. Islam is not compatible with western values of liberty and tolerance. Since Christians & other religious minorities are truly in danger in the Mid-East, they would present a different issue.

The response from the ACLJ was disappointing, but it really isn’t their bailiwick. We have to make our representatives understand that WE DO NOT WANT THESE PEOPLE HERE.


7 posted on 11/06/2015 11:19:25 AM PST by Twotone (Truth is hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: Captainpaintball; Art in Idaho

I sincerely doubt Art in Idaho is an Obama supporter.


8 posted on 11/06/2015 11:23:28 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you Jim. I can assure everyone I Am Not!


9 posted on 11/06/2015 11:26:16 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho; Old Sarge; null and void; Velveeta; Myrddin; Califreak; Salvation; ...
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Legal Recourse Discussion Thread Regarding the Muslim Invasion

Article, # 5 , and other discussion.

Thanks, Art in Idaho.

. . . . bbl

10 posted on 11/06/2015 11:32:57 AM PST by LucyT
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To: Twotone
I suspect that our only recourse is to use our first amendment rights to 'petition the government for redress of grievances.' . . . Islam is not compatible with western values of liberty and tolerance.

If we can somehow 'petition the government for redress of grievances' in Federal Court and at least stay the implementation of the migration, then we could hold off until Jan, 2017.

BTW, from the other thread, where is the Refugee Processing Center in Your State?

Flood Of Migrants From The Muslim World May Be Coming To Baton Rouge, Lafayette And Metairie Has list of the 'infusion centers' for each state.

Full list is here: Refugee Processing Center Directory

11 posted on 11/06/2015 11:37:34 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Portland, Oregon apparently. Thanks for the link. I know it would be nice to stop them through the courts, but the courts rarely respond to what the citizens want. We don’t have ‘standing’. We’re supposed to go through our legislators.


12 posted on 11/06/2015 11:40:43 AM PST by Twotone (Truth is hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: Art in Idaho

bfl


13 posted on 11/06/2015 11:47:40 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Twotone
Yeah, that whole 'standing' thing stopped us from pursuing the eligibility a number of times. Hopefully, this, given the issues, will give us standing.

Are the Patriots of America enough to have Class-Action Standing? There are plenty of us. .

14 posted on 11/06/2015 11:47:58 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Thank you, Art.


15 posted on 11/06/2015 12:14:28 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Captainpaintball; Art in Idaho

You could have taken a few moments to review Art’s posting history.

He is a huge supporter of the Article V state amendment process to reclaim the people’s sovereign power over our lawless government.


16 posted on 11/06/2015 12:18:16 PM PST by Jacquerie ( To shun Article V is to embrace tyranny.)
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To: combat_boots

You’re welcome combat_boots! Thank You for your ideas. You we’re the inspiration for the thread.


17 posted on 11/06/2015 12:23:39 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

FYI from Judicial Watch

U.S. Seals Another Deal to Protect Illegal Aliens’ “Workplace Rights”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3357229/posts

In a final push to ensure the “workplace rights” of illegal immigrants in the U.S., the Obama administration continues to sign pacts with foreign countries guaranteeing to protect their nationals from discrimination on the job.


18 posted on 11/06/2015 12:23:49 PM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow
What about the "Workplace Rights" of White, Christian, Male and Female Natural Born American Citizens?
19 posted on 11/06/2015 12:35:11 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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....apparently TINs are acquired through subterfuge allowing illegals to acquire driver's licenses....plus legality issues WRT to fraudulent passports, use of multiple identities, falsifying origins, falsifying official govt documents to obtain tax dollars....etc....

One solution......employ RICO laws against so-called charities and NGOs that engage in facilitating illegal aliens. Laws compromised include: <><>Conspiracy to undermine federal law.<><> 9th amendment WRT the facilitating of illegal aliens into US communities.

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TAX-PAYING AMERICANS NEED TO GO THIS ROUTE to nail these self-serving corrupt govt officials imperiling taxpayers and undermining US ntl security.

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BACKSTORY The 1980 Georgia General Assembly was concerned about the increasing sophistication of various criminal elements on the public payroll (including those in elective and appointive office). The GA Assembly then adopted the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), patterned after a similar federal law.

(RICO is routinely used to try to prove that a legal business was being used for illegal means, and, in at its inception, RICO was used to prosecute drug traffickers or organized crime members).

In recent years prosecutors have applied RICO to crooked government officials: (1) those accused of using their public offices for personal gain, and, (2) tax-paid officials of govt agencies using public monies to flout the law.

To bring a case under Georgias RICO law, there must be at least two underlying felonies such as fraud, bribery, witness tampering (among other felonies).

RICO allows prosecutors to include multiple defendants charged with various crimes in the blanket indictment, and to charge that govt employees, publicly funded and publicly sanctioned entities were allegedly part of an ongoing criminal enterprise.

EXAMPLE A govt official commits two felonies by (1) accepting, and, (2) filing falsified documents.

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HERE'S THE PATHWAY TO LAUNCH---Texas took the lead w/ 26 state AGs, successfully arguing that Obama's beatified DACA/DAPA's were made more desirable employees than US citizens.

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Any public official using tax dollars to flout that law is a lawbreaker: in cases where govt officials on the public payroll not giving public notice is a violation at the federal level of the 1946 Administrative Procedure Act, which requires notice in the Federal Register. Laws demand that taxpayers have the opportunity to submit views in writing.

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NOTE If proof is established that RICOed criminal public officials impaired the commercial and economic activity of the region, that could also be prosecutable under the Hobbs Act.

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UPDATE Georgias RICO law recently tried and convicted 27 corrupt school personnel who are now in jail.

20 posted on 11/06/2015 1:02:55 PM PST by Liz
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