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Post-Debate Poll: Fiorina Surges to First Place, Tied With Trump (National poll for conservative OAN
PJ Media ^ | 9/17/2015 | Staff

Posted on 09/19/2015 7:45:59 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

A post-debate poll conducted by Gravis Marketing for One America News Network (OAN) shows Carly Fiorina jumping to first place at 22%, tied with Donald Trump. ...

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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

You people?

ahahahahaha PLEASE!


41 posted on 09/19/2015 8:14:45 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The main thing that everyone needs to keep in mind is that no debate will ever change the fact that Trump will not be beholden to anyone but the voters, and anyone else who might win the nomination (for EITHER party) will essentially be owned by the rich and powerful individuals and organizations who raise the thousands of millions of dollars of the necessary campaign “contributions”.

That is why the big-money power brokers are in such a quandary. Ordinarily, they simply buy whomever looks to be most likely to win, but Trump doesn’t need nor want their money, so all they can do at that point is either attack Trump, “contribute” to losers (which is pretty pointless), or pull out of the game (which again is pointless). Therefore, the only rational option for the rich and powerful who are used to buying up all the necessary politicians is to take out Trump. They have no other choice.

Just like the CNN debate, the thousand will be insider, RINO, GOPe, BIG money donor, sell-out the voter types who’ll go wild clapping for RINOs like Fiorina, cheer whenever someone zings Trump, and remain silent when Trump makes important points.

The main thing that everyone needs to keep in mind is that no debate will ever change the fact that Trump will not be beholden to anyone but the voters, and anyone else who might win the nomination (for EITHER party) will essentially be owned by the rich and powerful individuals and organizations who raise the thousands of millions of dollars of the necessary campaign “contributions”.

That is why the big-money power brokers are in such a quandary. Ordinarily, they simply buy whomever looks to be most likely to win, but Trump doesn’t need nor want their money, so all they can do at that point is either attack Trump, “contribute” to losers (which is pretty pointless), or pull out of the game (which again is pointless). Therefore, the only rational option for the rich and powerful who are used to buying up all the necessary politicians is to take out Trump. They have no other choice.


42 posted on 09/19/2015 8:15:14 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
First it was Jeb Bush. Last week it was Dr. Ben who was going to slay Trump. This week it's Carly, Carly, Carly. Next?
43 posted on 09/19/2015 8:15:39 AM PDT by McGruff (The angry majority has awoken.)
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To: kabar

bookmark


44 posted on 09/19/2015 8:16:33 AM PDT by dforest
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To: kabar; All
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/carly-fiorinas-conversion-from-hillary-clinton-fan-to-fervent-critic/2015/08/14/fd23521a-42ad-11e5-8ab4-c73967a143d3_story.html

At which point Fiorina, then a campaign surrogate for presumptive GOP nominee John McCain, offered some unprompted praise for Clinton: If Fiorina hadn’t been backing McCain, she told me, she would have been for Clinton.

“That’s off the record,” Fiorina immediately added.

45 posted on 09/19/2015 8:18:40 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Kenny

This poll is a fabrication of the GOPE. I’m so glad that Time Magazine.com, Drudge and World Net Daily allowed over 1 million people to actually VOTE— TRUMP 53%!!! He also exploced from 27% last week to 36% in the post debate Gravis poll!!! Wonderfull.

FioRINO is a feminist. I have it on her taped advertisment. Feminist don’t do well in our party!! AMERICANS do great !!


46 posted on 09/19/2015 8:18:58 AM PDT by WENDLE (The big question is who will be VP!! I like Cruz!!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I don’t believe it.


47 posted on 09/19/2015 8:19:13 AM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Reno89519

You mean like—Carly Fiorina back in 2010.

“From her praise of Jesse Jackson, to her playing the race and gender cards against DeVore, to her support for the Wall Street bailouts, to her qualified support for the Obama stimulus, to her past support for taxation of sales on the Internet, to her waffling on immigration, to her support for Sonia Sotomayor, to her Master’s thesis advocating greater federal control of local education, to her past support for weakening California’s Proposition 13, to her statement to the San Francisco Chronicle editorial board that Roe v. Wade is “a decided issue,” Carly Fiorina’s oft-repeated claim to be a “lifelong conservative” was only plausible in the universe of NRSC staffers who recruited her in the first place.

...She endorsed Federal funding of embryonic stem-cell research for “extra” embyros.

She endorsed the California DREAM Act, which grants in-state tuition to illegal immigrants.

She refused to endorse California’s Proposition 23, which suspends the job-killing AB 32 climate-change law.”

As far I as can research, she has not evolved beyond any of these previous positions.


48 posted on 09/19/2015 8:20:34 AM PDT by yadent
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Your late to the party. This was posted many times yesterday and it’s a poll of debate watchers. So you lose again Hater. LoL.


49 posted on 09/19/2015 8:22:03 AM PDT by hotsteppa
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To: kabar

Carly playing the ‘women card’. From your posted link, “ as a woman I take great pride that Hillary Clinton ran for president”...... soooo Carly... Hillary’s ‘womanhood’ superseded any of her positions and you gloriously kissed her butt for it.
Anyone buying into Carly’s Free arena modern evolved pibble should best reconsider their folly...


50 posted on 09/19/2015 8:28:24 AM PDT by tflabo (Psalm 1)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I know several Independents and one Democrat who plan to vote for Trump.

Do you know anyone else on the GOP side who has that kind of cross-over pull?

Boxer beat Carly real easy. She is the queen of Outsourcing and laying off Americans. Good luck with that.


51 posted on 09/19/2015 8:28:29 AM PDT by crusher2013 (Liberalism is Aristocracy masquerading as equality)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Carly is a loser. Her companies have gone bankrupt.


52 posted on 09/19/2015 8:29:40 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I think this is pretty irrelevant. Trump had one objective in the debate: emerge with a bigger lead over Carson. Mission accomplished. Carson is now back down with the also runs. Fiorina has her post debate bump, but already long knives are coming out, and not from Trump.

She is pretty much the GOPe's last shot at stopping Trump, although (Mark it down) WHEN she fades in next two weeks, I think the anti-Trumpsters will have one more go with ol Amnesty Rucio.

After that, you will start to see the "grudging Trump supporters" peel away from all these others due to Amnesty, but soon guns and taxes as he keeps ,align out these policies.

53 posted on 09/19/2015 8:29:58 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: spintreebob

Silly. But Cruz already has a deal with Trump for either veep or AG. Cruz will leave the “island” before Rubio (who gets Yeb’s support).


54 posted on 09/19/2015 8:32:16 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Seriously doubt it.


55 posted on 09/19/2015 8:33:07 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Who knows if it’s a crap poll or not, but although Carly is a millionaire she can’t fund her own campaign. She’ll need hundreds of millions...

If the big contributors align themselves with her, it will come from the other candidates. This is good for trump...


56 posted on 09/19/2015 8:36:22 AM PDT by babygene (I'm one of the 9.4 million War Heroes that served during the Vietnam war..../s)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
This is, how you say in my country, aaaah “billsheet!”.
57 posted on 09/19/2015 8:37:09 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It looks like we are looking for a white knight. Some one who is not establishment but who can win and reflect our view points. We have yet to find them so we are going back and forth.


58 posted on 09/19/2015 8:38:35 AM PDT by amnestynone (Political Correction is a tactic based social intimidation to suppress opposing views.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Trump still in first place.

It’s a long election cycle.

Trump 22
Fiorina 22
Rubio 15
Carson 12

all Others 6 or below...


59 posted on 09/19/2015 8:39:10 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

All polls are to control the perceptions of the masses.....nothing more....most are ALWAYS manipulated in ways to skew the numbers and create the proper “emotions” That is why I avoid the “dog and pony” show-—it is a waste of your time to keep you from studying Truth and really getting educated-—like reading books by Milton Friedman and Solzhenitsyn and the Bible which teaches about true human nature so you don’t fall for the lies (Satan).

It is part of the Dialectical Materialism to mix truth with lies and misinformation. You can not believe ANY journalists except for a very few like Brietbart.....oh—well, he was one you COULD believe and he was NEVER afraid to speak the Truth. Well, he is like Socrates and Jesus and Machiavelli and Dostoevsky, and Solzhenitsyn and Milton Friedman, Goldwater, and Whittaker Chambers, etc. Demonized and dead.

BUT— MSM and “polls” and “perceptions” (lies) remain with the ignorant masses. (Just ask them——Truth means nothing in today’s media-—it is vilified. Polls mean nothing. It is part of the “dog and pony” show (bread and circuses)-—just like Jenner is a “she”——all a Brave New World, now, where up is down and Slavery is Freedom and boys are girls.

As Bradbury stated before he died—all MSM is to addict and distract. (control artificial emotions—keep you irrational). You can never glean “truth” from the “dog and pony” shows if you aren’t educated (read the Great Books/Bible) and had real life experiences (over 30 years old or so).


60 posted on 09/19/2015 8:40:34 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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