Posted on 08/20/2015 10:12:32 PM PDT by Steelfish
Donald Trumps Fantasy of Mass Deportation Is Political Poison For The GOP by CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER August 20, 2015
This was not a subject that was on anybodys mind until I brought it up at my announcement. Donald Trump, on immigration, Republican debate, August 6 Not on anyones mind? For years, immigration has been the subject of near-constant, often bitter argument within the GOP. But it is true that Trump has brought the debate to a new place first, with his announcement speech, about whether Mexican migrants are really rapists, and now with the somewhat more nuanced Trump plan. Much of it visa tracking, E-Verify, withholding funds from sanctuary cities predates Trump. Even building the Great Wall is not particularly new. (I, for one, have been advocating that in this space since 2006.) Dominating the discussion, however, are his two policy innovations: (a) abolition of birthright citizenship and (b) mass deportation
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For Illegals : remove the magnets, punish employers who hire illegals, remove all Government support and tax refunds to illegals.
Illegals will find their own way home
Funny how eschewing all these “political poisons” and then going along with what our enemies want has made our side such a success....
“OReilly went on about this tonight, Trump is going to lose an election that should have been in the bag for Republicans.”
Bill, Romney was the RINO candidate faced with a no-lose election and he lost it. Ditto McCain. It is time to stop playing it safe, evidently.
“Its now or never.”
Absolutely. This is our last shot. The election last November and what the Republicans have done with their mandate to stop Obama reveals we have a one party government. It is the Obama party.
For a psychiatrist not to see through the GOPe “Hispanic” fantasy is shocking.
LOL....How many points did he rise this week after that statement? Seriously, at some point propaganda is beyond ridiculous. This statement is not sticking your head in the sand, it is nothing but mind control....repeating lies enough to change minds.
Oh no! The alien pod people have gotten to almost everyone on Fox News! Bill O submitted willingly.
This may come as a shock to many people, but in the not too distance past, this was the law and standard INS operating procedure: When I started practicing law 30+ yeears ago, I did quite a bit immigration work in the rural area where I first hung out a shingle -- mostly for farmers, colleges, hospitals, and religious institutions located in the middle of no where. If an illegal alien wanted to become legal, they had to leave the United States and submit their visa application to the US Embassy in their country of citizenship, and then wait outside the United States until their visa was approved for legal re-entry. In nearly all cases, the applicant had to personally appear at the foreign embassy to obtain the visa. The risk was that once the illegal alien left the United States to obtain a visa, there was no guarantee that their visa would get approved, and even if it did, the process could take months, if not years, depending upon the visa class under which they applied for legal immigration. That's where I came in.
My job as a lawyer was to make sure that my clients applied for the most preferred visa class for which they qualified, and that all labor certifications and sponsorships were in place before my clients left the country to obtain the visa. I would even do an advance background check to minimize any surprises that might pop up to delay or prevent a client from legally re-entering the country. Of the approximately 100 cases I handled in the five years that I did this kind of work, perhaps only 5 people were denied re-entry because they did not qualify for a visa of any kind.
Family based visas were usually processed in 4 to 6 weeks for illegal aliens who had legitimately married a United States citizen or had a citizen child. (The key word is "legitimately," and people who had been married for less than a year were heavily scrutinized to weed out mail order brides and marriages of convenience -- a review process that could take many months or more.) The process was also fairly quick for non-immigrant H-1 (specialized workers) and F (student) visas, if the applicant would have qualified for the visa in the first place or if the applicant had overstayed a previously issued non-immigrant visa either inadvertently or due to reasons beyond their control (i.e., medical or INS processing delays for a timely submitted application to extend the visa). In contrast, there was a penalty period for applicants who had over-stayed a non-immigrant visa without cause, and illegal aliens who sought lawful re-entry under a non-family/distant family based immigrant visa or a nonimmigrant H-2 visa (unskilled or semi-skilled workers) could wait a year or more to obtain a visa. Applicants with even a low-level criminal conviction were often denied a visa of any kind.
The people I felt most sorry for were the farmers and hospitality industry, who needed seasonal workers to survive. Back then, the sponsoring employer had to show that they were unable to hire legal residents to perform the work, and in order to do that, they had to obtain a certificate of need from the state department of labor, and in order to get the labor certificate, they had to advertise the position locally for several weeks through the local unemployment office and a local newspaper. By the time two government bureaucracies (INS and the state labor department) got around to doing their jobs, the seasonal need for the temporary workers had already passed. The choice for many of them was to either hire illegal workers and survive or go out of business.
Years ago, I used to thing that CK was a brilliant, erudite, and sensible man.
He has easily disabused me of that erroneous notion.
Yep, no question most scattered to other states. Utah tried to push back, others ignored it. I fully expect long lines of Mexican “tourists” visiting Canada.
Krauthammer’s first response is more often wrong that correct. He has no credibility for me.
The stupider they are, the further they go in the ‘news’ media.
Kraut ie Mr. Amnesty can’t stand it that he has been unable to run Donald out of the race.
Proof of that?
He writes about baseball.
Interesting how Krauthammer and Will are going all out to expose the fact that they are water carriers for the repulsive, deceptive "Republican" elite.
I'm so tired of people trying to scare us and the candidates with this "oh my gosh... the American people are going to hate this position so much" garbage.
LOL
Quite informative. Thanks
Right Charles - based on what happened the last time we tried mass deportation I... er... wait a minute. When did we last try mass deportation?
A president has some leverage to effect policy changes that would de-incentivize illegal immigration and incentivize mass *self* deportation to where we would not need to rely on mass-deportation.
Personally, I would like to see some serious sanctions against the business owner for failing to verify employment status of employees. If it’s a larger company, then the CEO is where the buck stops (and the federal prosecution begins). I would not be against extending the sanctions to all board of directors too. The Business Owner/CEO and BOD are ultimately responsible for ensuring that all employees know and abide by a policy of no illegal employees. If a job-site supervisor brings on illegal laborers after signing agreement to the policy, then the supervisor gets pinched too. That still does not absolve the business owner/ceo/bod. They are responsible for supervising the supervisors.
The point is that right now, there is no fear of hiring illegal day-laborers. There needs to be some by-GOD fear! Do that and the jobs dry up. Then, if we curtail state/federal benefits to only *legal* immigrants, then the illegals have to go somewhere else to make a living.
It’s not rocket surgery...
I believe the percentage of illegals who are undesirables is higher than your number, around 25%.
That is, 25% of them look at me with utter contempt and hatred. I have ne need for them.
Krauthammer: once a Democrat, always a Democrat - like Reagan?
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