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In Houston Shooting of two Robbers, Reporter says to "give them what they want"
Gun Watch ^ | 17 July, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/19/2015 5:14:23 AM PDT by marktwain



A reporter covered the defensive shooting in Houston, where marksman, clerk, and brother of the owner, Dien Tu, shot and killed two of three armed robbers.  The robbers were attempting to rob the store and had pistol whipped his brother in law, Brian.   The reporter at khou.com gives this advice:

Police advise clerks in this situation to give in to the demands of robber.
It is not clear if this is actual advice from police in the area, or vaguely remembered propaganda by the reporter.  The store owner sees things a little differently, as reported in the next sentence:
The owner here said everyone is armed because of how dangerous the area is.

In the picture above, Dien Tu is seen aiming at the fleeing robbers.  Note the reinforced posts to prevent smash and grab burglaries and robberies.  They also provide some protection from car bombs.

The comments on the story at khou.com show that people think the reporter's advice is foolish.  From Kurt Kirkpatrick:
Do cops give in to criminals who flash a gun? Why not, if that's their advice to others? I'm thinking the reporter is shooting from the hip.
From Sandy Wheeler Coryell
One, or, two for the good guys! I think every employee should be armed and taught how to use a gun, and when.
This was the right time. If everyone just gives over the money, there is no reason for the robbers to stop. If every employee is armed, they might think twice about robbing the place. And there should NEVER be just one employee in a store.
KUDOS to this guy. Two more pieces of scum off the streets
From Homstad House:
If you just give them money, they know where to come next time.in 

The store had been robbed on July 1, just 10 days before.   From abc13.com:
The owner says his store was robbed July 1 so he and his brother were prepared with guns to fight back. The clerk in that robbery was beaten so badly, he hasn't been able to return to work.
I cannot help but wonder if Dien has been in some tight spots before.  He acted quickly and decisively in a difficult situation.   A previous story refers to Dien as "wearing a gun".  Might it be that he was openly carrying in the store?  No holster is evident on this image, taken four hours later.  Open carry on one's property has always been legal in Texas.


The robbers have yet to be identified, but it is likely that cutting their criminal careers short has prevented hundreds, if not thousands of future crimes.

Perhaps their deaths will serve as a lesson to others.   If the crime rate in dangerous urban areas is to be brought down, the rule of law needs to be reinforced and internalized by the culture in the area.  Young men need to be taught that crime is not a respectable or worthwhile career option.  Responsible actions by armed citizens are part of that process.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; dien; gunfight; houston; texas; tx
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21 posted on 07/19/2015 6:05:06 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: marktwain

Several decades ago I lived in a small CO town.

Two thugs came in to a liquor store, took the two clerks into the basement and murdered them both, after raping the female.

All the liquor store owners got together and made a pact that this would never happen again. Every clerk openly carried a holstered weapon. Shotguns were racked behind the counter.

The owners wouldn’t hire a clerk who refused to work armed. Cops trained new employees.

When I left, about five years later, there had been no more liquor store robberies.

Don’t know if the policy is still in effect.


22 posted on 07/19/2015 6:33:44 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: BobL

Voter ID is nothing but a good thing. You have to have ID to buy booze, tobacco products, apply for taxpayer funded (government) assistance of any sort...so what is the problem with showing ID when you go vote? Other than it keeps the DemocRAT base from voting often and after death.


23 posted on 07/19/2015 6:37:47 AM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: marktwain

There have been cases where the store owner gave them what they wanted and still were shot.


24 posted on 07/19/2015 6:40:26 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( "Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Sherman Logan

“When I left, about five years later, there had been no more liquor store robberies.

Don’t know if the policy is still in effect.”

That reminds me of living in conservative Bakersfield, California years ago. I recall seeing regularly on the news bank robberies in Los Angeles. When I asked someone if this had happened in Bakersfield, they said yes, several years before, but has not happened since.

Seems some guys from LA thought it was easy pickings in the hick town of Bakersfield, but after they robbed the bank, the sheriffs caught up with them but they all died in a ‘gunfight.’

Too bad for them, but no one mourned their loss as it sure made an improved environment in Bakersfield.


25 posted on 07/19/2015 6:49:37 AM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: marktwain
The media is the enemy of America.

When things go south, they are #1.

26 posted on 07/19/2015 6:51:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("In a very short period of time, these will be the good old days." -- unknown Freeper, 2015)
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To: marktwain

Give them what they want? A short life with a violent death?


27 posted on 07/19/2015 6:51:20 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I will turn 58 in a few months. I graduated from high school at the age of 17 in June of 1975, two months after the fall of Saigon. This guy is around two years older than me and very well could have served in his home country at the end of the conflict.


28 posted on 07/19/2015 7:20:24 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: marktwain

That’s 2 preps who aint going to do it again no matter how much it hurts the lawyers, DAs and judges pockets.


29 posted on 07/19/2015 7:46:04 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: hal ogen
THUG2
30 posted on 07/19/2015 7:57:05 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

new tag line. Thanks Mr. Heinlein.


31 posted on 07/19/2015 9:33:53 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (An armed society is a polite society. Heinlein)
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To: bestintxas

I hope (yes, HOPE) that someday the reporter experiences this very same situation. Absolutely no sympathy for those wishing to deny others the right to defend themselves.

F him.


32 posted on 07/19/2015 12:22:10 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Feckless
There was a time when this was good advice, it has long since passed.

WHEN was this ever good advice? Do tell.
33 posted on 07/19/2015 12:24:08 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I worked an all night gas station (literally the ONLY thing in town open 24/7) in Brownwood, Texas in 69/70, I was 14/15. Got robbed 3 times in 2 years.

The boss put an old POS .32 in the drawer under the register and when the third robber found that he spazed out, just knew I was gonna die. He left without the money he was so scared.

I told the boss I would help them load everything in that station before I'd try to stop them @ $1.50 an hour.

34 posted on 07/19/2015 1:01:09 PM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: marktwain

Tu explained why he was already prepared for such a violent scenario, noting this was hardly the first time criminals have targeted the store.

“We got robbed from 12 days ago so we think maybe they come back,” he said.

Police have not released any evidence suggesting this quartet was responsible for the previous robbery. They do, however, think the suspects struck another business before attempting to rob the Super K.

Store owner Alden Tu lamented the level of risk that has become inherent in his line of work.

“It’s so danger[ous] for this kind of job,” he said, adding that “everybody have guns when they are in the store.”


35 posted on 07/19/2015 1:08:00 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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