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Trump has Republicans Whig-ing Out
The Houston Chronicle's GOPlifer Blog ^ | July 14, 2015 | Chris Ladd

Posted on 07/14/2015 10:33:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

This has been a tough few weeks for Republicans. Donald Trump is emerging as a far more complex threat to the party’s future than it first appeared. It remains nearly impossible for him to win the nomination and he probably lacks the attention span for an independent run, but that’s cold comfort. Viability as a candidate is not what makes him dangerous.

By loudly embracing the party’s nastiest impulses, Trump threatens to topple a domino that could force the GOP into an open split and a full rebranding. Though rare, there is a precedent for this phenomenon in the Republican Party’s own history. That precedent is based on a sort of political physics built into the foundations of our system. A political party in our system can survive many calamities, but once it loses the ability to compete for the White House the pressure toward dissolution is impossible to check.

Throughout our history Republicans and their forerunners have occupied the second slot in the two-party system we inherited from the British. Under the influence of Jefferson, Democrats coalesced around the interests of farmers, labor, and Southern planters against the emergence of capitalism. Led originally by Hamilton, the Federalists, Whigs, and then Republicans primarily channeled the interests of tradesman, merchants, industrialists, and professionals. Their priorities were the promotion of trade, commerce and national expansion. By virtue of these alignments, Democrats have consistently enjoyed an advantage of numbers while Republicans enjoyed better funding, a more coherent ideological platform, and far superior organization....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: democrats; gop; trump; whigs
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"Nastiest impulses?" Enforcing existing laws? Wow.
1 posted on 07/14/2015 10:33:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Enforcing the law is nasty.

Got it.


2 posted on 07/14/2015 10:34:46 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ( A system of government that makes the People subordinate to a committee of nine unelected lawyers)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Enforcing the law is nasty.

And the Supreme Court agrees.

3 posted on 07/14/2015 10:36:12 AM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim president!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“tough few weeks for Republicans.”

Tough for Republicans, yes. But invigorating for conservatives. I see Jeb, Marco and Christie rendered irrelevant.


4 posted on 07/14/2015 10:38:01 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Those “laws have largely been ignored for nearly 50 years. Illegal immigrants have been pouring over that border since I was a little boy.


5 posted on 07/14/2015 10:38:29 AM PDT by exnavy (Gun control is two hands, one shot, one kill.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, those pro-American, pro-security, pro-economy, pro-Constitution, pro-law-abiding ideas are definitely going to sink the GOP establishment.

OMG, what will Boner, McConnell, McCain, Grahamnesty, and the rest of the GOPe do for payoffs???


6 posted on 07/14/2015 10:38:37 AM PDT by EagleUSA (Liberalism removes the significance of everything.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If the modern Republicans are the equivalent of the White, then this issue must be the equivalent of slavery with the GOPe trying to ride the mushy middle.
7 posted on 07/14/2015 10:39:12 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The 1st amendment is the voice and the 2nd is the teeth of freedom. Obama wants to knock out both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Saving cities currently snowed under with drug crime, debt, and failing schools thanks in large part to the English as a second language bunch?

Negotiating agreements that don’t result in millions of American job losses?

Enforcing existing law?

The BASTARD!


8 posted on 07/14/2015 10:40:34 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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The guy doesn’t know history. The GOP took the country dominantly for one reason only: under Lincoln and Seward and Stevens they unabashedly took on THE issue of the day, slavery. Trouble is today we have several issues but Trump so far the only one unabashedly taking on one of these, illegal immigration.


9 posted on 07/14/2015 10:46:10 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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Trump threatens to topple a domino that could force the GOP into an open split and a full rebranding.

Ta-da! That is the only thing that can save the GOP.

10 posted on 07/14/2015 10:52:31 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The panic that truth deniers exhibit, when their cowardice is exposed, should serve as a wakeup call to all who care about the future.

Perhaps the single most dangerous tendency in an era of very, very destructive tendencies among a great segment of the population, is that which confines thinking to very, very short term concepts. We have replaced the many generational vision of the Founding Fathers, for a let's all maximize material profit over the next couple of years, and "make believe" that our posterity will be able to cope with whatever our reckless disregard leaves for them.

It may be much too early to endorse anyone for President. But I give thanks to the Almighty for Donald Trumps shaking up the morally bankrupt ostriches in our midst.

11 posted on 07/14/2015 10:54:12 AM PDT by Ohioan
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force the GOP into an open split and a full rebranding.

That may be just what it needs.

Conservatives hang on like piglets hanging on to mommy's teat. They complain about the direction the Elites are going -- to no avail. They did not change 'the party' with Goldwater, not with Reagan (for 2 terms).

Elites are moving the party to the left. They are going to same direction as the progressives/Democrats, just at a slower pace. Look at the current Congress. The Republicans have given Obama nearly everything he wants. It was the Dems who tried to sink the trade deal.

Republicans try so hard. They want to be with the kewl kids. They want the Dems to like them.

Assuming the nation survives the remainder of Obama's term and the next progressive president, the party split is inevitable. It has been inevitable at least for the past decade. It is only a question of how much more the conservatives will hang on for. It will be the conservatives who split -- because the GOPElites hold the Republican party leadership and they are not going to let go of that.
12 posted on 07/14/2015 10:54:34 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: BlackAdderess

What has nearly destroyed the republican party is sycophantic capitulation to socialism and dictatorial tyranny over and over again. The sickening sight of republican leaders running from a fight has disillusioned millions of conservatives. They are flocking to become declared independant and totally stopped giving any more money because,for example, they see it going to pay black democrats in Mississippi to vote in a republican run off to support a bad establishment hack against a real conservative - McBride. This party was disintegrating long before Trump rode in. He may actuall save this party if he keeps it up.


13 posted on 07/14/2015 10:58:13 AM PDT by WENDLE
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“Nastiest impulses”? really . . .

A RINO complaining.

So if you waskelly wepublicans would just adopt the Liberal Democrat ideas, then maybe Republicans could win.
Old White Conservative vs what ? ? ? Young non-white liberals?

That isn’t the war to fight at this time.
The battle lines are government control and dependency vs freedom and self determination.


14 posted on 07/14/2015 10:59:57 AM PDT by Macoozie (1) Win the Senate 2) Repeal Obamacare 3) Impeach Roberts)
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To: EagleUSA
...OMG, what will Boner, McConnell, McCain, Grahamnesty, and the rest of the GOPe do for payoffs???...

Easy...
They "switch" parties and be dimocRATS. That won't be difficult since they are RINOs.

15 posted on 07/14/2015 11:00:08 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: LS
Trouble is today we have several issues but Trump so far the only one unabashedly taking on one of these, illegal immigration.

He needs to take on immigration period. Legal immigration is a bigger problem than illegal immigration. We have just had the two largest decades of legal immigration in our history. Over 30 million legal permanent immigrants have entered this country since 1990. They are taking jobs from Americans, depressing wages, using the welfare system to a much greater degree than the native born, and vote more than two to one Dem.

How can we justify bringing in 1.1 million legal permanent immigrants a year along with 640,000 guest workers annually while we have the lowest labor participation rates in 38 years and stagnant or declining wages? Trump says he loves legal immigration. Sounds like Herman Cain and his higher walls and wider gates.

Only Santorum and Walker are talking about reducing legal immigration.

16 posted on 07/14/2015 11:03:09 AM PDT by kabar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And this writer is a GOPlifer.....it’s a creased pants NPR GOP


17 posted on 07/14/2015 11:04:57 AM PDT by wardaddy (Mark Levin.....I love him...but he is ignorant of Dixie)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump should commit big time to reaching out to the black communities. Use white guilt to his advantage. If blacks march for Trump, whites will capitulate.

Every illegal is a black man out of a job. Sorry, in a knifefight there are no rules.

It’s been used against us, might as well use it for us.


18 posted on 07/14/2015 11:05:52 AM PDT by GoneSalt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump: “Of course, the Mexicans are fine people who are only looking for economic opportunity, but we have to enforce our laws and chose which immigrants we wish to admit. Our first consideration must always to be to provide jobs for our own citizens.”

Nope, that’s not what he said!


19 posted on 07/14/2015 11:13:03 AM PDT by proxy_user
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Every illegal is a black man out of a job. Sorry, in a knifefight there are no rules.

Why do you apologize for making a perfectly valid argument? Consider one of the essential points in Booker T. Washington's Classic Appeal to White Employers.

Is not consideration of the long-term interests of the rooted population a first consideration with respect to any policy?

Let us, once and for all, shrug off the insane tendency to apologize for putting rooted Americans ahead of an imaginary duty to some sort of world fantasy.

20 posted on 07/14/2015 11:13:44 AM PDT by Ohioan
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