Yes, birthers, Ted Cruz IS a natural-born citizen of the U.S.

Lone Star Conservative ^ | Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 10:30 AM | Josh Painter

[Josh Painter]

This should not even be an issue any longer, but there are still some out there who didn't get the legal memo.

First, some history:

The origins of the Natural Born Citizenship Clause date back to a letter John Jay (who later authored several of the Federalist Papers and served as our first chief justice) wrote to George Washington, then president of the Constitutional Convention, on July 25, 1787. At the time, as Justice Joseph Story later explained in his influential Commentaries on the Constitution, many of the framers worried about “ambitious foreigners who might otherwise be intriguing for the office.” “Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Command in chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen,” Jay wrote.

Washington thanked Jay for his hints in a reply dated September 2, 1787. Shortly thereafter, the natural-born citizenship language appeared in the draft Constitution the Committee of Eleven presented to the Convention. There is no record of any debate on the clause.

To make a long story short, the question boils down to a matter of intent:

While it is possible to trace the origins of the Natural Born Citizenship Clause, it is harder to determine its intended scope—who did the framers mean to exclude from the presidency by this language? The Naturalization Act of 1790 probably constitutes the most significant evidence available. Congress enacted this legislation just three years after the drafting of the Constitution, and many of those who voted on it had participated in the Constitutional Convention. The act provided that “children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural-born citizens.” There is no record of discussion of the term natural born citizen, but it is reasonable to conclude that the drafters believed that foreign-born children of American parents who acquired citizenship at birth could and should be deemed natural born citizens.

In conclusion:

What can we expect if Senator Cruz or another similarly situated candidate runs for president in 2016? Undoubtedly, the controversy will continue with passionate advocates on both sides of the issue. A scholarly consensus is emerging, however, that anyone who acquires citizenship at birth is natural born for purposes of Article II. This consensus rests on firm foundations. First, given Jay’s letter and the language of the 1790 naturalization act, it seems evident that the framers were worried about foreign princes, not children born to American citizens living abroad. Second, the 14-year residency requirement Article II also imposes as a presidential prerequisite ensures that, regardless of their place of birth, would-be presidents must spend a significant time living in the United States before they can run for office.

Concurring:

Two former top Justice Department lawyers say there is “no question” Ted Cruz is eligible for the presidency, in a new Harvard Law Review article that seeks to put to rest any doubt about the Texas Republican. “Despite the happenstance of a birth across the border, there is no question that Senator Cruz has been a citizen from birth and is thus a ‘natural born citizen’ within the meaning of the Constitution,” write Neal Katyal and Paul Clement in an article published March 11. “There are plenty of serious issues to debate in the upcoming presidential election cycle. The less time spent dealing with specious objections to candidate eligibility, the better.”

[...]

The Harvard Law Review article is notable because it is a bipartisan assessment that Cruz meets the Constitution’s requirement that the president be a “natural born citizen.” Katyal was an acting solicitor general in the Obama administration from May 2010 to June 2011. Clement was solicitor general from 2004 to 2008 in the Bush administration and is, perhaps, best known nationally among conservatives for arguing the case against President Obama’s health care law before the Supreme Court in 2012.

Katyal and Clement review the intent and meaning behind “natural born citizen,” going back to the Founding Fathers. The question about citizenship and presidential eligibility has also affected Barry Goldwater, George Romney and John McCain over the years — and all met the constitutional test.

Katyal and Clement conclude in their article:

As Congress has recognized since the Founding, a person born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent is generally a U.S. citizen from birth with no need for naturalization. And the phrase “natural born Citizen” in the Constitution encompasses all such citizens from birth. Thus, an individual born to a U.S. citizen parent — whether in California or Canada or the Canal Zone — is a U.S. citizen from birth and is fully eligible to serve as President if the people so choose. Finally, another bipartisan consensus:

Legal scholars are firm about Cruz’s eligibility. “Of course he’s eligible,” Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz tells National Review Online. “He’s a natural-born, not a naturalized, citizen.” Eugene Volokh, a professor at the UCLA School of Law and longtime friend of Cruz, agrees, saying the senator was “a citizen at birth, and thus a natural-born citizen — as opposed to a naturalized citizen, which I understand to mean someone who becomes a citizen after birth.” Federal law extends citizenship beyond those granted it by the 14th Amendment: It confers the privilege on all those born outside of the United States whose parents are both citizens, provided one of them has been “physically present” in the United States for any period of time, as well as all those born outside of the United States to at least one citizen parent who, after the age of 14, has resided in the United States for at least five years. Cruz’s mother, who was born and raised in Delaware, meets the latter requirement, so Cruz himself is undoubtedly an American citizen. No court has ruled what makes a “natural-born citizen,” but there appears to be a consensus that the term refers to those who gain American citizenship by birth rather than by naturalization — again, including Texas’s junior senator.

Case closed. Bye bye, birthers,

- JP

[Yosemitest]

The Arab-Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama II, (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro), ( the one guilty of TREASON ! ) has NO legitimate Social Security Number.
His father was NOT an immigrant to the United States. Barack Obama Sr. was a "Transient Alien" because he did NOT intend on residing in the United States permanently.
Barack Obama Sr. was a dual citizen of Great Britain and Kenya, and NEVER a United States Citizen.

Read British National Archives Show Son Born To Obama Sr. In 1961 In Kenya!

His mother could NOT impart U.S. citizen to her son, Barack Obama II, because she did NOT meet the legal requirements to do so,
at the time her son was born IN the Coast Provincial General Hospital, MOMBASA, KENYA at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961.
Democrats knew this and tried to eliminate the "Natural Born Citizen" requirement at least 8 times BEFORE Obama won his election in 2008.

Obama is NOT a United States Citizen, and is NOT a LEGAL IMMIGRANT.
He has no VISA allowing him into this country.
Barack Hussein Obama II IS ILLEGAL !
He should be IMPEACHED IMMEDIATELY, tried for TREASON, SENTENCED to death, and then have his body deported back to Kenya.

Here are some articles to assist in defining "WHO" and "WHAT" Obama IS.

Obama, the African Colonial, June 25, 2009

PRAVDA SAYS 'AMERICAN DESCENT INTO MARXISM HAPPENING WITH BREATHTAKING SPEED'!

Here's the mind of Fascist Obama, from another poster LomanBill.
"Yuri Bezmenov on demoralization" Interview with Yuri Bezmenov (ex-KGB) by Edward Griffin - 1984

Hitler / Obama Comparisons: Is Barack Obama Like Adolf Hitler or The Nazis?

But I disagree.

"Black"

No.
Free Republic has covered this issue before.

"Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab."

Read this:

"Warren G. Harding was the first President of the United States to have direct negro ancestry.

Thanks to Harding's glorious trailblazing in 1920, the current pretender to the same title, Barak Hussein Obama Jr., is eighty-eight years too late.
Genealogical evidence has revealed that the impostering "first black president" Barak Hussein Obama is
6.5% Negro and 48% Arabic,
the remainder 45% Caucasian.

Why ‘imposter’ ?
Because Obama is simply not the nation's first Negro President, the simple fact is that he is not Negro.
Barak Hussein is several times more Arabic by genetic percentages."

CORRECTION: Barack Obama, the first black Arab-American -Kenyan pResident of the United States.



Read Why did Youtube pull this video about Barack Obama?
and watch BREAKING NEWS! - Is Barack Obama Really A Saudi / Muslim "Plant" in the White House?.

[NOVACPA]

“And additionally in 2009, the House of Representatives passed a resolution (H. Res. 593, 111th Congress) by a vote of 378-0 which states, in part, “Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.”

Such passage carries the same legal weight as if the same group of 378 had passed a resolution to declare the 3rd Friday in June, National Pickle Day, or some nonsense similarly situated.

[Nero Germanicus]

You are correct that a simple non-binding resolution passed by either chamber of Congress carries no legal weight. However that “whereas clause” in House Resolution 593 has carried POLITICAL weight in the House of Representatives. Consequently since the adoption of that resolution, the political effect is that there has never been a congressional hearing or even a speech in the House on Obama’s eligibility/ineligibility as a natural born citizen.
Senate Resolution 511 on John McCain’s Panama Canal Zone birth and his natural born citizenship had the same effect.
I expect similar resolutions will be passed concerning Senator Cruz’s birth in Canada and his status as a natural born citizenship.

[GBA]

Ya, who cares about the rule of law?

Caring has to have limits.

To me, this is about far more than just the rule of law, which is currently used selectively by the lawless. This is the second half of a successful assault upon the Constitution, our definitions of citizenship and our national identity, while undermining and using our integrity against us creating a slow motion suicide.

The solution the self-described Constitutionalists reach for is the easy way and will do irreparable damage, just like the one the other side reached for did even though both men are ideological opposites in every way.

As such, their solution comes with too high of a price in order to temporarily win a few battles only to lose the greater war. But, since there is nothing that can be said or done now to alter the path we're on, caring has to have limits.

[WildHighlander57]

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2013/06/20/193585553/how-ted-cruzs-father-shaped-his-views-on-immigration

Above is the link for the story about Ted’s dad coming to the U.S. on a 4 year student visa, getting asylum when it was up, having a green card, then marrying Ted’s mom, and them moving to Canada thereafter.

[WildHighlander57]

http://www.arcadeathome.com/archive.phtml?2008-03

above is the link for the % arabic & % african for 0’s dad.

(clicking on the link at the top of the article gets one here:

http://www.arcadeathome.com/gate.phtml?http://www.diversityinc.com/public/1461.cfm

But it is not there... “error 404 - nothing found”)

[Yosemitest]

That’s the same source I use in the comment that you responded to.

[Yosemitest]

I HATE IT WHEN THAT HAPPENS !
Try these:

http://www.cf-cia.org/obama_lineage.htm (Barack Hussein Obama - Arab-American, only 6.25% African)

http://www.arcadeathome.com/archive.phtml?2008-03 (Barack Hussein Obama - Arab-American, only 6.25% African)

http://africanpress.me/2008/10/03/barack-hussein-obama-will-be-if-elected-the-first-arab-american-president-not-black-american/ (Barack Hussein Obama will be, if elected, the first Arab-American President Not black American,by African Press International on October 3, 2008)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2942131/posts (Not exactly correct, Barry! 39 truths about "Obama" [Read Item number 6] )

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/137419 (Obama's Family Tree.)

That should be enough to get you started.

[WildHighlander57]

Many thanks for gathering all those links; somehow I missed the part about him getting asylum and a green card in your link labeled “source”, so I went looking and found and posted the link with the original name...

[WildHighlander57]

Bingo! Those links have the info :)

[Yosemitest]

Just in case you have NOT read it before.

Read

Sarah Ann Dunham Sortoro (Every one save these images now)

INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961!

Long-Form Birth Certificate of Obama is a Forged Document

RUSH: Wouldn't Obama Rather Talk About Where He was Born Than the Economy?

Here's you some more sources and FACTS.

People can go to www.scribd.com and read their pages 20 thru 32 ,

Introduction, THE UNDOCUMENTED WORKER IN THE OVAL OFFICE.
Obama Uses Social Security Number Issued in Connecticut —
Whose Social Security Number Is Barack Obama Using?

For those of you who don't know, remember this:

The Democrats knew about this BEFORE Obama was elected in 2008!

8 Congressional attempts from June 2004 to February 2008 to alter Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the US Constitution, proves to me

that the DNC knew that Obama was born in Kenya.

Read it for yourself.

What did Congress know about 'natural-born citizen'?
8 tries at eliminating requirement suggests organized strategy in place

Then look at these links.

1. June 11, 2003, Rep. Snyder, Vic (D) 108th congress, H.J.Res. 59

2. Sep 3, 2003, Rep. Conyers, John Jr., (D) H.J.Res. 67

3. Feb 25, 2005, Sen. Nickles, Don (R-OK) Senate Bill 2128, counter the democrats Natural Born Citizen Act - but Defines it wrong

4. Sep 15, 2004, Rep Dana Rohrabacher (D)(R-CA46) H.J.Res 104

5. Jan 4, 2005, Rep Conyers, John Jr., H.J.Res. 2 109th Congress

6. Feb 1, 2005, Rep Rohrabacher, Dana (D) (CA-46) H.J.Res.15

7. April 14, 2005, Rep. Snyder, Vic (D) (AR-2) H.J.Res. 42

8. Feb 28, 2008, Senator McCaskill, Claire (D) Attachment to a military bill Senate Bill 2678 Titled Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act.
DNC Presidential Candidate Senator Clinton and Senator Obama were cosponsors of this bill.

9. April 10, 2008, Sen McCaskill, Claire (D) (MO) Senate Res.511 passed declaring Senator John McCain a Natural Born Citizen.
But it was never in question. It was cosponsored by DNC Presidential Candidate Senator Clinton and Senator Obama.

Just before the 2008 election Barack Obama's election team spent $1.4 million blocking access to all of Obama's records.

Barack Hussein Obama II is UNCONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED.
There were 8 attempts by Democrats to try to "Change the Qualification Rules" BEFORE Obama was elected.
They KNOW Obama's ILLEGAL ... AND .... UNQUALIFIED!

Obama's record is hard to find.
Think about this.

"On August 4, 1961 Obama's mother, father and grandmother were attending a Muslim festival in Mombasa , Kenya .



Mother had been refused entry to airplanes due to her nine month pregnancy.
It was a hot August day at the festival so the Obamas went to the beach to cool off.
While swimming in the ocean his mother experienced labor pains so was rushed to the Coast Provincial

General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961(what a sad day for the USA!).
Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth."

Here's something to ponder.

I think it more likely that the trip from Kenya actually occurred in August 1961, shortly after BHO-II's birth at the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa.
Ann and her newborn son flew from Nairobi to London, via BOAC Flight BA162 and then took the non-stop BOAC flight from London to Vancouver, Canada.
She then traveled the 110 miles or so, across the border, to Seattle in time to start Fall Semester, night-school extension classes at the University of Washington.
The trip would be challenging for a new mother, but she was young, healthy, intelligent, and capable.
BOAC was very accomodating to mothers with young children back in the 1960s. No real problem!

From the Airline Timetable Images - List of Complete Timetables, the cost of BOAC from April 24,1960 until October 1, 1962 was:
From Vancouver to Nairobi cost in Canadian Dollars:
Single Return
DL 1115.00 2026.80
F 1055.50 1918.80
T 764.00 1396.00
Y 701.00 1282.60



Passanger Fares could be "FLY NOW AND PAY LATER".
Arrangements could be made whereby residents of certain areas may, on payment of a 10% deposit, travel immediately and pay the balance of fare in monthly instalments.

If you're wondering about where the money came from, think about this.
Look at all the financial supporters Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. had.
"In 1959, Obama Sr. received a scholarship in economics through a program organized by nationalist leader Tom Mboya.
The program offered Western educational opportunities to outstanding Kenyan students.[22][23][24]
Initial financial supporters of the program included Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier, Jackie Robinson, and Elizabeth Mooney Kirk,
a literacy advocate who provided most of the financial support for Obama Sr.'s early years in the United States, according to the Tom Mboya archives at Stanford University.
Funds provided the following year by John F. Kennedy's family paid off old debts of the project and subsidized student stipends,
thereby indirectly benefiting Obama Sr. and other members of the 1959 group of scholarship holders.

Yes, it's quite clear that money wasn't a problem for the Marxists Revolutionaries.


Passanger Information for that time frame can be found here.
Connections from Nairobi - Lusaka - Salisbury can be found here.

The BOAC World Routes Map is found here.

Departure arrival times from Britian to Nairobi are found here.

Departure arrival times for London and Vancouver are found here.

Now think about those facts,and statements.
The forgeries I'm aware of, are the three Birth Cretificate Barack Hussein Obama II has forged.
I don't trust evidence put forth by Obama supporters.
The disappearance of too much evidence on Obama is strong enough for me to know that he was born in Kenya.

Read INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961!
The documents provided in that article are very damaging to Obama, and well worth your time.

Most of these early "supporters" of the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF were party to the Communists "spooks".
There's a great volume of history you have to go through to understand this, and it goes back to about 1850.

Read these three articles on one of my earlier post:

Obama, the African Colonial
By L.E. Ikenga

PRAVDA: "THE AMERICAN DESCENT INTO MARXISM IS HAPPENING WITH BREATH TAKING SPEED"

Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)

Now go back and read The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals.

Are you getting the depth of this Fabian Society takeover?

Watch "Fabian Society" 1, then watch "Fabian Society" 2, and then watch "Fabian Society" 3.

It's deep, it's ugly, and most people WILL NOT ... CAN NOT ... accept the truth.

[Godebert]

You know, you really should GET THE FACTS BEFORE you reveal your IGNORANCE !

The information at your link is statutory man-made law regarding Citizenship.

positive law

n. statutory man-made law, as compared to "natural law," which is purportedly based on universally accepted moral principles, "God's law," and/or derived from nature and reason. The term "positive law" was first used by Thomas Hobbes in Leviathan (1651).

natural law

the body of laws derived from nature and reason, embodied in the Declaration of Independence assertion that "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness." 3) the opposite of "positive law," which is created by mankind through the state.

[Yosemitest]

And your point IS ?

[Godebert]

The point being that the term 'natural born Citizen' found in our Constitution is derived from natural law, NOT positive law. No law made by man can change that definition.

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 20 - Use of The Law of Nations by the Constitutional Convention

[Yosemitest]

Hey DUMMY !
Have you NOT READ Article 1 (The Legislative Branch) Section 8 (Powers of Congress) of the U.S. Constitution ?

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Did you forget about Amendment 14 (Citizenship Rights) WHICH IS PART OF THE CONSTITUTION and just as germane ?

You'd like to IGNORE THAT, would't you ! ?
But you can NOT !

[Godebert]

Article 1, Section 8 only grants congress the power to establish a uniform rule of naturalization. Read it.

[Godebert]

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

[Yosemitest]

I did, and YOU DID NOT READ THE LINE I QUOTED.

So AGAIN, you're WRONG !

[Yosemitest]

You really need to go back to school.
You're comprehension is CRAP !

Amendment 14 (Citizenship Rights) IS PART OF THE CONSTITUTION and IS JUST AS GERMANE !

[Godebert]

In defining what an Article II “natural born Citizen” is, we do not seek to read into the Constitution that which was not intended and written there by the Framers. Despite popular belief, the Fourteenth Amendment does not convey the status of “natural born Citizen” in its text nor in its intent. Some add an implication to the actual wording of the Fourteenth Amendment by equating the amendment’s “citizen” to Article II’s “natural born Citizen.” But nowhere does the 14th Amendment confer “natural born citizen” status. The words simply do not appear there, but some would have us believe they are implied. But the wording of the Amendment is clear in showing that it confers citizenship only and nothing more.

Neither the 14th Amendment nor Wong Kim Ark make one a Natural Born Citizen