Posted on 01/25/2015 12:38:08 AM PST by IChing
I like to refer to Islam as equivalent to the Manson Family on a global scale. Just how accurate is that? Let’s take a look.
Ali Sina is a renowned ex-Muslim author, and founder of FaithFreedom.org. He writes,
“I see Muhammed as a psychopath and Allah was nothing but his own alter-ego. He invented this bugaboo deity to fool people and ride them. Allah is no god and even if he was, Muhammed did not receive any revelations from him. Muhammed was a deranged man. He concocted this whole lie to fool people. He was no different than Jim Jones, David Koresh or Charles Manson. Mohammed was a ruthless man – a false prophet. He made people hate each other. He divided them so he could conquer them.” As for Charles Manson, his cult was ultimately oriented around “Helter Skelter” — Manson’s hallucinogenic-fueled vision of an apocalyptic race war, driven by messages he found in both the Beatles’ music and in the Biblical book of Revelation, in which blacks, and especially black Muslims, would ultimately kill off virtually all whites except for the Manson Family, who would then rise up from hiding to rule over the remaining black population. The Manson Family’s murder spree was intended to trigger “Helter Skelter.”
The only real difference I find between Manson and Mohammed is that the Manson Family was stopped in time, after their several early murders, and before Manson really got his movement going very widely, whereas Mohammed got his movement going much more widely(acting with minimum or non-aggression at first) before growing more powerful and really starting to rampage and murder people in order to terrorize, subjugate, and bring even more under Islam’s brutal reign by force.
Unfortunately, Mohammed was obviously not stopped in time, and Islam’s influence has grown over the centuries to where it now counts over a billion adherents on this planet. It’s plain to honest observers that only the small percentage on the leading edge of Islam’s march are the actively violent ones, while the hundreds of millions of their rear-echelon support staff and families act mainly as spiritual, financial, and logistical support — or, are merely dragged along, in the cultural sense.
Manson was stopped also because of the advanced civilization in which he preached his psychotic visions and commanded his murderous followers — a comparatively technologically-developed society which, even in the California of fourty-five years ago, had a unified, highly sophisticated, constitutional system of jurisprudence and law enforcement, with telephone networks, highways, cars, and early police computer databases.
Mohammed’s 7th-century Arabian milieu was, of course, quite primitive and tribal, lending itself that much more to the rapid spread of a dangerous totalitarian quasi-religious cult based on a delusional, megalomaniac personality, who bided his time until his numbers were sufficient to “strike terror into the hearts(Qur’an 8:60)” of his opponents.
Mohammed’s Jim Jones-like early influence and maniacal rantings were strongly opposed, at first, by powerful members of the Quraysh tribe from which he and his family originated, however he was able to eventually prevail against his opponents in numerous fierce, bloody battles, destroying any and all who stood in his way, resulting in complete regional domination by his new cult, Islam.
Both Manson and Mohammed started out as charismatic spiritual gurus who captured the imaginations and abject loyalties of some of their respective societies’ members, with their new, dark, self-invented twists on pre-existing cultural and religious elements.
Manson started preaching and attracting followers in the Haight-Ashbury hippie haven of San Francisco during the “Summer of Love” period in the late 1960s. His message and philosophy was a mixture of science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard’s own invented cult-religion, Scientology, and of the dual Christ/Satan-worship found in the burgeoning “Process Church of the Final Judgement”(a shunned splinter group from Scientology) of that time.
Mohammed, on the other hand, after marrying a well-off merchant dowager 15 years his senior, went on a meditative sojourn into a cave, from whence he emerged claiming to have been visited by the archangel Gabriel, and alleged to have received revelations that he was to bethe prophet of Allah. Prior to this, Allah had been regarded as one of many gods(albeit one of the highest gods) in the pagan worship practices of the Arabian tribes.
Mohammed began insisting that he had been chosen to whip everyone, including those from the Abrahamic faiths of Judaism and Christianity(called the “people of the book” by Muslims), into shape under the totalitarian rule and iron hand of his new religion, which he called Islam, on behalf of his Allah.
So here we are, so many hundreds of years later. Mohammed’s savage warlord legacy of murder and mayhem continues on, helped along with stubborn interference(against those of us who would stomp out terrorism for good) on its behalf by countless fools and knaves such as George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and assorted other multiculturalist dhimmis and stealth agents in high places who falsely insist that Islam, true Islam, is peaceful. Of course it is not.
Along with the physical evidence of constant Islamic aggression and brutality, additional proof is found in Islam’s documents, the Koran, Hadith, and Sira, which are rife with passages commanding Muslims to terrorize, subjugate, and slaughter non-Muslims.
There is one passage, though, to which many of the aforementioned dhimmis and deliberate deceivers like to adamantly point when describing Islam as peaceful. Yet even that imaginary scripture is used to distort and deceive — because those quoting it never actually give you the complete, actual version from the Koran.
The version they give you, which does not even exist in any translation of the Koran, goes like this:
“If anyone slays a person, it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.” (by the way, those words happen to be lifted directly from a preexisting Jewish text — Mishnah, IV division 5)
Again, that passage cannot be found in any copy of the Koran anywhere. Often, those promoting it insert “innocent” in front of “person” — which only makes debunking it easier, because the trick lies in just who Islam deems innocent! As for that, take a wild guess. You got it! According to Islam, only Muslims can be innocent.
The actual verse is Qur’an 5:32, and it is as follows:
“On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a person – unless it be for retaliation for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew all mankind: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all humanity.” Notice that here is proscribed conduct not for Muslims, but for “the Children of Israel,” and that according to Islam, “spreading mischief in the land” can mean anything that is not deemed completely in obedience to Allah, including merely being non-Muslim!
Oh, and the very next verse, Qur’an 5:33, is conveniently omitted by Obama when he deploys his taqiyya on us:
“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;”
There are many authoritative sources which support exactly what I have said above. Just a couple of them are here, and here.
In the aftermath of the Sept. 11th, 2012 terrorist attack on our consulate in Benghazi, Libya, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, and their cronies all falsely blamed an obscure movie on YouTube titled “The Innocence of Muslims” for supposedly provoking ragheads’ murderous outrage which took the lives of our ambassador, 3 other Americans, and numerous other victims around the globe in further rampages.
Despite the cynical lies of Obama and his administration, saying the filmmaker was the culprit and then having him arrested and jailed, I decided to watch some of that video. I didn’t get very far into it before I gave up on trying to figure out the reason for its title.
As for the ongoing clash of civilizations(not really an appropriate phrase, because Islam cannot accurately be called civilization) between Islam and everyone else, I say non-Muslims are the innocent ones.
go tell it to someone who cares.
you and others ruined a very good thread that exposes Islam here by hijacking it. whatever, i ignore and will not read any thing any of you 2 and others like you say. you are on ignore.
I had an idea to create an alternative Five Pillars of Islam. So far I have at least six, and I wonder if I should pare them down, or just go past five. I’d give it an easily searchable title like “The Six True Pillars of Islam.” Or maybe I’ll make it five, with the warning about lying being permitted going last without a number. Anyway, it’s a work in progress, if you have any suggestions.
1. Islam is a war plan. Islam is a hostile, aggressive, predatory conquest strategy for invading and subjugating non-Muslim lands.
2. Islam enslaves all women. Under Sharia Law, Islam enslaves all women as the chattel property of a man. The degree of freedom enjoyed by a woman under Islam is entirely up to the man who owns her, and can be revoked at any time, with the woman held in bondage behind locked doors. Women who resist enslavement can be beaten into submission by their male owner.
3. Islam subjugates Christians and Jews. Under the Sharia, Islam formally treats Christians and Jews as second=class citizens or “dhimmis” who must pay a special tax and abide by harsh and bigoted rules in order to be allowed to live.
4. Islam murders homosexuals, atheists, apostates, “pagans,” and Christians or Jews who will not pay the dhimmi tax and who do not humble themselves before any Muslim.
5. So-called “moderate Muslims” who move to a non-Muslim land maintain self-apartheid and refuse to assimilate, creating Sharia Law no-go-zones, which are the beachheads for future violent jihad when the Muslim invaders have sufficient numbers to go on the attack.
6. Islam permits lying to non-Muslims, especially about the true pillars of Islam, so no Muslim can ever be believed when he denies the above listed truths, which are proven by 1,400 years of history from Mohammed until today.
First, the Bible is a complete book. When the apostles died, the canon closed with them and someone who doesn’t want to believe or accept that by definition rejects the entire book. It’s an all or nothing deal……it’s either 100% accurate and complete and must be accepted as such or it’s 100% false, incomplete and must be rejected. Galations 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Here Paul is issuing a warning (repeated twice no less) that even if the source for some new ‘gospel’ appears to be an angel from heaven, it must be rejected…. and this rejection is in perfect alignment with the teaching in 2 Corinthians 11:3 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Very simply, any teaching that comes after the canon was closed is Satanic.
There are many gods (fallen angels) who have amazing powers doing the work of Satan…. we are warned to reject ALL of it no matter how honest or appealing it may seem to be and this is summed up neatly in the verse that says that “Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.” Mankind is not expected to be so smart that they can discern the wily nature of Satan…he is way too smart to be figured out. But mankind is smart enough to apply a basic principle of rejecting everything after the apostles on no other grounds is that it came after the apostles and thus had the potential to be false. This by the way includes any teachings that emanate from mainstream Christian churches… i.e. those teachings that are presented as equal to scripture and are standalone in nature as opposed to those teachings which are centred on existing passages in the Bible itself. The warnings about messing with scripture could not be laid out more clearly than in the last book of the Bible.. Revelations 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.< b>
Vry good. But his essay omits the reason he accumulated adherents.
He was leader of a band of common thieves. His “religion” gave moral authority to thievery and murder. That was the lustful attraction of being in on the “in crowd”. Motive is important in the big picture.
Excellent read, but what really struck me the most was how the personage of the thing that occupies the WH (’TOWH’, I will now call “it”) jumped up like a red flag as I poured over the article.
There has been several occasions in which I talked with my father about TOWH, how I fervently believe it is muslim based on all the empirical evidence at hand. Most of the time he said he just didn’t know [if it was a muslim], and then while he was resting in his recliner one day, he spoke to me about the fact that TOWH may actually have NO belief in islam or any other belief system, because it feels that it is, in fact, GOD (which satan has gone about doing since before Creation). As he told me to keep this in mind, he went on to say that TOWH could just be using the Islamic belief system and its billion+ followers to accomplish (TOWH’s) ultimate goal of this world under its rule—as we are witnessing now, every second of every day.
My father and I also know, however, that God Himself will deal with satan and his follower, TOWH, as we read in Ezekiel, Daniel, Isaiah, and Revelation! The Lion of the Tribe of Judah is going to roar down upon the Earth, glory be to God! Amen!
Hard to say it much better than this. The Bible makes it pretty clear.
Yes, scripture is crystal clear on this.... and the implications go far beyond the obvious satanic cults like islam. One can think of examples much closer to home.... and not just mormanism.
You sound like someone who claims...
...since you did NOT vote for Mitt, you REALLY wanted Obama.
Ruined?
Capt. Hyperbole is offended!
Oh NO!
I'll go out on the lawn and eat worms!
Good point.
Excellent summary.
Thanks. It’s an idea in progress.
Tx. I’m not sure if customs of inheritance on the Arabian peninsula
commanded full endowment of the first son only, as was the case in the Levant; but, for a huge number of second, third and fourth sons left destitute, rapine and pillage— more addictive than the poppy, and given blessings by this so called Allah—must have been an irresistible temptation for them to acquire wealth and power, quickly, while engaging in pursuits they grew to love. Mohammed had a businessman’s intuition, I reckon.
Reform Islam? Kewl.
My suggestion: anyone named Mohammed/Muhammed/other spelling variants is an insult to the Profit (that's the way we Reform Islamists spell it) and must be beheaded to atone for their wicked mischief. Note this does not apply to unbelievers, only to those adherents of the Faith who have defiled his holy name....
I hereby appoint thee Mullah Travis. Neca es omnes. Deus sus agnoscet
Seven, Travis.
IMO, leave it at “Five Pillars” with your sixth point (about lying) as an SOP or an explanatory point.
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