General Robert E. Lee should be a Role Model for American youth

Canada Free Press ^ | 01/18/15 | James King

[Sean_Anthony]

Lee possessed every virtue of other great commanders without their vices. He was a foe without hate; a friend without treachery; a victor without oppression, and a victim without murmuring.

U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower believed that Confederate General Robert E. Lee should be a Role Model for American youth and they should emulate his qualities.

Robert Edward Lee was born January 19, 1807 to Revolutionary War hero Henry “Light Horse Harry” Lee III and Anne Carter Lee at Stratford Hall in Westmoreland County Virginia. He attended the United States Military Academy at West Point where he graduated 2nd in the class of 1829 without a single demerit. Lee served in the U.S. Army for nearly 32 years.

At the beginning of the War Between the States (Civil War) he was offered command of the U.S. Army by Abraham Lincoln. He knew that Lincoln’s invasion of the Southern States was unconstitutional, illegal, immoral, and criminal. He had to make a choice to either defend the Constitution or the Union. He made the correct decision to defend the Constitution.

[X Fretensis]

Congressman May was arrested in May of 1861 by General Butler when he declared marshal law in Baltimore. The Maryland legislatures were arrested in September of that year..

[rockrr]

Many men believed they were fighting for their right to remove themselves from the Federal government which they felt had become tyrannical.In order to fully understand the reasoning of the South, you have to step into their shoes

How do you suppose that rationale works when it was the slavers who largely controlled the federal government?

[X Fretensis]

Vallandingham’s arrest was perfectly legal. Congress suspended the writ of Habeas Corpus by law in March of 1863.
Vallandingham was arrested in May of 1863. Congress has the right to suspend the writ of Habeas Corpus under Article 1 Section 9 of the Constitution of the United States.

[DoodleDawg]

Congressman May was arrested in May of 1861 by General Butler when he declared marshal law in Baltimore.

According to Wikipedia, for what it's worth, he was arrested in September.

[X Fretensis]

your Wikipedia article and my Wikipedia article seem to be in disagreement.

[D Rider]

Don't argue with me, ask the guy I plagiarized it from. ;)

[DoodleDawg]

your Wikipedia article and my Wikipedia article seem to be in disagreement.

Here's mine.

[X Fretensis]

Wikipedia article title “Maryland in the American Civil War.”

[rockrr]

Wouldn’t be the first time wackypedia had gaps in its narrative.

[X Fretensis]

I know what you mean

[trebb]

He defended the constitution by crapping all over the constitution?

By that logic, Obama is the authority on the Constitution and opposing him is crapping all over said Constitution...

[DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis]

You do know that 70 to 80% of confederate soldiers did not even own slaves? And you do know that the Confederate Constitution actually bans the slave trade, right? You do also know that General Lee and others were in favor of enlisting blacks in the Confederate army in exchange for their freedom (like General Washington did)? And also, if slavery and state’s rights are the same thing, then why even secede at all? Lincoln said in his inaugural address that “I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.” Why do you secede and fight a costly war to win something you already have or to protect something that does not need protection? Illogical.

[DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis]

Kinda like what the American rebels did to the tories.

[DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis]

Yes, Lincoln opened the door to socialism in US government. No wonder Marx supported everything Lincoln did.

[rockrr]

Nonsense, there is zero analogy there. Øbozo isn’t an authority on anything and it is how people oppose him that says whether their actions are constitutional or not.

[rockrr]

You do know that 70 to 80% of confederate soldiers did not even own slaves?

Yes.

And you do know that the Confederate Constitution actually bans the slave trade, right?

Not true.

You do also know that General Lee and others were in favor of enlisting blacks in the Confederate army in exchange for their freedom (like General Washington did)?

Yes, I know that lee floated the idea but the cornfederates wouldn't even consider it until it was too little too late to change anything.

And also, if slavery and state’s rights are the same thing, then why even secede at all?

Who said that they were the same thing?

Lincoln said in his inaugural address that “I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.” Why do you secede and fight a costly war to win something you already have or to protect something that does not need protection? Illogical.>

I never said that the slavers were logical.

[rockrr]

Poppycock.

[DoodleDawg]

No wonder Marx supported everything Lincoln did.

Any quotes to that effect?

[x]

The fact that he was almost universally admired by the entire Union Army and its officers, despite him being the leader of their enemy in one of the most brutal conflicts in human history, highlights his incredible character.

They respected his cleverness and admired his ability, but I don't know that it really went deeper than that, especially when the bullets were flying.

I doubt Union soldiers fighting against Lee felt the kind of admiration for him that bound the Lee cult in the South together after the war. I'm not sure all Southerners felt that way when the war was still going on, either.

Rommel and Patton admired each other I guess, and troops in both armies had respect for the ability of the other side's commander, but it's possible to read more love and affection into that grudging respect for an adversary than is actually there.

[DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis]

Marx admired Lincoln and sent him letters congratulating him on his election, and wrote that now American labor had before the war ben unable to "support their European brethren in their struggle for emancipation, but this barrier to progress has been swept off by the red sea of civil war." He concluded by stating his belief that Lincoln was the one to "lead his country through the matchless struggle for...the reconstruction of a social world."

Marx was also on very friendly terms with the abolitionist Horace Greeley and Dana, the editor of the New York Tribune. One of Marx's followers who had moved to the US was commissioned by Marx to publish the first copies of the Communist Manifesto. This fellow, Weydemeyer, later became a general in the Union army. In a letter from Engels to Weydemeyer, Engles confided that one of the preliminaries for the advancement of the communist revolution was the establishment of a "single and indivisible republic." Engels also wrote to Weydemeyer that the U.S. Civil War constituted "[t]he preliminaries of the proletarian revolution, the measures that prepare the battle ground and clear the way for us."

Another German socialist and follower of Marx who moved to the US, Col. Louis Blenker, petitioned the government to allow him to raise a regiment of German troops to fight for the "preservation of the Union." It should be clear why he and his cohorts were so willing to fight for an indivisible government--after all, a perpetual Union would, according to Engels, "prepare the battleground and clear the way for us [communists]."