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Why is Bill Cosby suddenly a bad guy?
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Posted on 11/21/2014 9:15:13 AM PST by pfflier

Bill Cosby has been revered for years as a comedian talking about his youthful experiences in a black neighborhood. His stories are peppered with descriptions of the quirky personalities of his friends, most notable among them, Fat Albert.

Why is Bill Cosby suddenly a bad guy? There has been extensive media coverage, over the past few days, with at least six women now accusing Bill Cosby of sex crimes...purported to happen a long time ago. It has become typical in these kinds of cases for one person to speak out then have several accusers pile on after "consulting their attorneys". The examples of Herman Cain and Clarence Thomas come to mind.

Coincidentally, a few things they all have in common is that their accusers waited years to make the claims and they are all, Cosby, Cain and Thomas, successful black men who have "broken the mold". As a matter of fact all three have been criticized by activists for not being black enough. Specifically, Cosby has made the speaking circuits for some time now, scolding the black community, particularly the youth, about the loss of values in their segment of society and has advocated reform.

It is possible that he is not person we saw publicly, but, the treatment he is receiving by the media is typical of the type that was used to try to destroy the reputation of Cain and Thomas when they were soaring with higher aspirations. That appears to be more than coincidence.


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To: pfflier

Cosby has a tough road battling accusations like this whether true or not. It is a sad end to a long public life.

I will say that I have seen powerful public people that commit extremely bad personal behavior and get away with it to the degree that it becomes a life long pattern.

Tiger Woods, various televangelists, the former Governor of New York, Ted Kennedy (to the point he relished Mary Jo jokes), JFK, Bill Clinton and even lesser known powerful business people I have observed over decades.

Power corrupts. That is why a very powerful individual who is humble, kind and virtuous stands out so much.


101 posted on 11/21/2014 12:02:12 PM PST by KC Burke (Gowdy for Supreme Court)
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To: babble-on
It’s surprising when somone who has been trusted and generally very well liked public figure for 50 years turns out to be such a person.

Has he "turned out to be such a person"? Or is he being smeared for political purposes? What does he talk about - Blacks taking responsibility for their lives and getting off the plantation? How has that gone over with Democrats? And now Obama - black Obama - is openly tossing the Constitution into the dumpster, and suddenly white Democrat women are remembering that they were not only underage but also drugged and raped even though they have no evidence and stayed silent for twenty or thirty years? My God, people need to buy a clue. Anyone ever watch or read "To Kill a Mockingbird"? Promiscuity and cheating has been turned into white child rape by the bugaboo Black man right out of the 1800's Deep South, right in front of our eyes! And what does all of this accomplish? Can he be tried or convicted after all this time with no evidence? Nope. BUT HE CAN BE SILENCED. And that's what's happening to him - because they don't want him to keep telling Blacks to grow up. And why now? Because Hillary's about to run, and she needs the Black vote. And because with Obama's amnesty, Blacks are going to lose out to Mexicans now. So the Rats are worried about exactly what Cosby is trying to make happen. Therefore - get rid of Cosby's VOICE. And that's what this mass slander attack is accomplishing.

102 posted on 11/21/2014 12:05:55 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: ScottinVA

No, your ignorance of this situation is incredible.

You really need to at least start reading the threads to get up to speed on the history and evidence involved.


103 posted on 11/21/2014 12:22:56 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Wrong. You’re missing my point about not taking everything at face value. One would think you might understand that.


104 posted on 11/21/2014 12:27:44 PM PST by ScottinVA (We either destroy ISIS there... or fight them here. Pick one, America.)
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To: Vaquero
He might be guilty, but I don’t trust his accusers.

One is Lou Ferrigno's wife. Lou is no lefty.

105 posted on 11/21/2014 12:31:37 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Kackikat
..you are the jack%$$!

No name calling...the jack%$$ (donkey-see definition) is the icon for democrat liberals.

"Council, I submit that the perpetrator here, did in fact, call me a name."

106 posted on 11/21/2014 12:31:58 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (POTUS shall now be referred to as POPOF. President Of Pants On Fire.)
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To: Vermont Lt; Kackikat
Stop looking for a fight and go get angry at someone else.

She did. Me. Review the thread. LOL.

I got reemed for suggesting there was a legal weakness to her passionate presumption of the verdict.

107 posted on 11/21/2014 12:37:59 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (POTUS shall now be referred to as POPOF. President Of Pants On Fire.)
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To: ScottinVA

Who is running this complicated conspiracy involving close to 20 accusers so far with claims going back to the 1960s, claims that fit long time industry rumors and whispers and the creation of a police report in 2000 and a charge in 2005 of a 2004 rape that the DA is convinced happened, and which Cosby settled out of court after 13 women supported the victim with similar stories about Cosby?


108 posted on 11/21/2014 12:39:50 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Tenacious 1; Vermont Lt

Both of you should know that Cosby has no fear of the courts now, the statute of limitations is long gone on all cases...seriously men it boggles the mind that you want the man to be cleared via a trial and that isn’t going to happen.

The only trial Cosby gets now is in “the court of public opinion”

For those women there will be no justice, that’s why I think men who can’t see this, while defending his ‘only accused’ are Jack%$$e$! These women have been coming forward for years (2 of them) and ignored.


109 posted on 11/21/2014 12:56:19 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

Rape is a horrible thing.

But if the authorities don’t know about, they cannot do anything about it.

This happened a long time ago. I am empathetic to their assault. I am not sympathetic to their plight today.

Will I watch Cosby or give him a dime in ticket sales? Nope.

Do I really care all that much about him? Nope.


110 posted on 11/21/2014 1:27:48 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: ansel12

I never made a claim of some grand conspiracy. So get that part straight. If you look through these accounts, nearly every one has a common threads: they were in his hotel room, were drinking with him, and some even admitted to accepting pills from him. All waited many years before coming forward. One even admitted to having partied with Cosby alone AFTER an alleged attempted rape.

If these allegations are true, why in the hell did not one of them immediately file a report, charging him? If he is indeed brought to trial, they’re going to have one hell of a time proving these charges after all this time. And the ruminations of that prosecutor are meaningless, because no evidence existed.

If Cosby has indeed committed these acts, I hope he’s somehow found guilty and sent up for life. But what we have in many cases are alleged victims who were more interested in entertainment careers than seeing justice be done.


111 posted on 11/21/2014 1:32:52 PM PST by ScottinVA (We either destroy ISIS there... or fight them here. Pick one, America.)
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To: Parley Baer

Pants up!Don’t loot! Don’t rape!


112 posted on 11/21/2014 1:34:10 PM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Vermont Lt; Tenacious 1

Glad to see you see the seriousness of why ‘a jury of women’ are judging him...it is long overdue...here is an article with a lot of info on what he has gotten away with for years.

I apologize for calling both of you Jack%$$e$...you are teachable.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/20/i-warned-you-about-bill-cosby-in-2007.html


113 posted on 11/21/2014 1:35:19 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: ScottinVA

LOL, no conspiracy and then you describe a conspiracy.

Did you read post 78 or post 65?

And why do you talk about a trial and being found guilty?

Are you this blind and stubborn when it comes to Bill Clinton? How about Juanita Broaddrick?

So decades of rumors, a 2000 police report, a 2005 settlement, almost 20 females making claims, a DA who thinks he is a rapist that he had to allow to slide, and you don’t see any reason why Cosby doesn’t seem credible and the accusations do?

How do you think the evidence of the Clinton rape compares to the evidence against Cosby?


114 posted on 11/21/2014 1:42:59 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12

No, sorry the possibility of separate individuals having agenda does not equal a one large “complicated conspiracy.”

I know you’d love to carry this on all weekend long, but if you don’t understand where I’m coming from on this issue, you never will.

You’ve made your points and I’ve made mine. Leave it at that.


115 posted on 11/21/2014 1:50:49 PM PST by ScottinVA (We either destroy ISIS there... or fight them here. Pick one, America.)
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To: babble-on

I know. It’s very disappointing.

There is a book or documentary coming out that will name names of Hollywierdos who have abused children in the industry. Brace yourself. : )

When I was a teen, a producer my dad recognized, saw my pictures in the year book and saw me perform in a play at school and wanted me to do something. I was in the drama club. He spoke with my dad on the phone, so I am fuzzy on the details. My dad said “I appreciate that you see her talent, but no thank you. She’s too young and has to focus on college.”


116 posted on 11/21/2014 1:54:34 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: trisham

Having an affair and being raped are two different things.

How many of these accusers were actually “affairs?”

The question is actually quite valid as to why are these women coming forward now?

Cosby is getting old...are the sharks circling?


117 posted on 11/21/2014 2:05:26 PM PST by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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To: ScottinVA

As I look back at your posts, I believe that I do know where you are coming from and describing it accurately, that is why you keep ignoring the new facts that are posted to you, that challenge what you want to claim.


118 posted on 11/21/2014 2:05:57 PM PST by ansel12
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To: EBH

Even if these were affairs, I would lose respect for him.


119 posted on 11/21/2014 2:10:58 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

That’s fine, but most of modern Americans wouldn’t.

So the question remains...why yell rape, if it was an affair at the time?

Young girls drinking, fooling around in the ‘age of love’ decades... one night stand with a famous celebrity...

To take that time and culture of free love, free drugs, etc. and then shout rape decades later for a folly? Under the new cultural guise it sure would be considered rape, but back then it was free love.

Eh...the allegations just don’t stand for me.


120 posted on 11/21/2014 2:19:25 PM PST by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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