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FL: Woman Arrested for Protecting Children from Water Moccasin
Gun Watch ^ | 19 October, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/20/2014 4:49:49 AM PDT by marktwain


Who would have thought that it would be illegal to defend children from a poisonous snake?  This is where the insanity of extreme gun restrictions have brought us.   In Florida, a mother was at a school event during a football practice session.  A water moccasin was discovered on the practice field, but attempts to kill it with sticks were not successful.  From newsherald.com:
April Dawn DeMarco, 30, was arrested for discharging a .380-caliber handgun on the practice football field of Bay High School, 300 E. 15th St., during practice last week for the local Pop Warner football team. Demarco apparently borrowed the pistol from Miren Gregory, 31, to protect nearby children after a group of parents found a water moccasin on the field, police reported.

Coaches and parents told the children to get out of the area after finding the moccasin. Gregory told DeMarco she had a concealed carry permit and a handgun after some of the coaches tried to kill the snake by hitting it with sticks.
Snakes can be difficult to kill with a stick, if there are obstacles nearby.  As this was a football practice field, the snake may have been hiding under equipment on the field.  From personal experience, I can say that a firearm is often the only means to stop the threat from a poisonous snake that is in a semi-concealed position.   You do not want the snake to escape from view and remain in an area frequented by children.   It is like allowing a living land mine on the school grounds.

Here is where the law gets crazy.  Even if a person has a concealed carry permit, it is illegal to possess a firearm on school grounds during a school related event.   The penalty is a misdemeanor.  From statute 790.06(12):
(d) Any person who knowingly and willfully violates any provision of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the second degree,
It is illegal to discharge a firearm on school grounds, but  there is an exception for using a firearm in defense of self or others.  From statute 790.115 2.(d)
(d) A person who discharges any weapon or firearm while in violation of paragraph (a), unless discharged for lawful defense of himself or herself or another or for a lawful purpose, commits a felony of the second degree,
If I were Dawn DeMarco's attorney, I would certainly be pleading that this was a clear case of defense of others.   It does not matter that Dawn missed the snake with the borrowed firearm.
One parent forewarned the women that having a firearm on school grounds was against the law when DeMarco said, “I will take the blame,” the parent told police.


This might be a good test case for reform of the silly gun free school zone law in Florida.   Even the federal gun free school zone law has an exception for those with concealed carry permits.

The person that Dawn DeMarco borrowed the pistol from was also arrested.   It is unknown if she had a concealed carry permit.

Gun free school zone laws have been a disaster from the beginning.  It is time to stop the idiocy.

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TOPICS: Government; Pets/Animals; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; fl; school; watermoccasin
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To: Tupelo

Not as hard as you might think, if it is prepared to strike. .45s seem to work particularly well, possibly as a slower-moving bullet which gives the snake time to react and strike.


21 posted on 10/20/2014 6:03:32 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

...’cause guns are evil magic.


22 posted on 10/20/2014 6:05:40 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: marktwain
The ban on guns in and near schools has nothing to do with safety...

Also indoctrination: put the idea that "guns are evil" into their minds. It only takes two generations for it to become "fact". Look how short of a time it took for the " gay is OK" meme to become mainstream.

23 posted on 10/20/2014 6:10:28 AM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: Mom MD

I load my own shot caps.

I use air rifle pellets instead of round shot.

Air rifle pellets goes through thick grass and brush better.

Each pellet is right up there with a .22 when it hits.

Snake gets tore up pretty good.


24 posted on 10/20/2014 6:13:49 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: marktwain
The cotton mouth snake is extremely aggressive. While other snakes will move away from you, the cotton mouth will move toward you. I hope the charges are dropped.
25 posted on 10/20/2014 6:14:42 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Afterguard

+1.


26 posted on 10/20/2014 6:18:41 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: marktwain

I went to an extraordinarily liberal private high school in the 1980’s (long story). But that experience gives me a good benchmark to compare how crazy the world has become, and this incident is a great example.

One day there was a very large snake in a tree, next to a sidewalk. So, a member of the maintenance staff walked up to it with a shotgun, and eliminated it. And that’s the end of the story. As recently as thirty years ago, not even rabid liberals blinked at the notion of the maintenance man possessing a gun on campus, or using it. It just really wasn’t a big deal.

Another example was an annual ritual called TAG - The Assassination Game. It was based on a movie I think...anyway for a period of weeks, we all walked around with dart guns and people we were assigned to kill. Some of the guns were ridiculously futuristic in look...others looked just like a M1911. Again, nobody thought twice about this - imagine walking into any school with a toy gun these days. And I re-iterate this was a very, very liberal school. One of the driving forces behind forcing gays on the Boy Scouts was my classmate, for example.

Thirty years later, we are a nation of over-panicked lunatics.


27 posted on 10/20/2014 6:21:29 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: marktwain

Most schools have a restriction on blade size, if they allow edged weapons at all. And some states have restrictions on lade size for concealed edged weapons...to the point that a good sized pocket knife could get you in trouble.

And, many states have a vast array of laws governing locking blades, fast open blades, etc. Its hard to keep up with.


28 posted on 10/20/2014 6:25:22 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: Afterguard
I’m sorry to say it but this was just a stupid thing to do.

Agreed. I've killed a few snakes in my day and a few things stood out in this story.

1. If the children weren't present when the gun went off then they weren't “being protected” from the snake.
2. Discharging a handgun in a public area is stupid, no telling where the round will end up.
3. If you can't kill a snake with a stick you aren't doing it right. Get a bigger stick or a bigger (smarter) person to swing it.

29 posted on 10/20/2014 6:30:35 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: liberalh8ter

Rattlers don’t bother me too much as they don’t wan’t to fight and would rather go on their way.

I have had many runins with moccasins and every one of them defended their ground. I consider them to be much more dangerous than rattlers. I generally use a shovel to take them out, don’t want to waste any ammo.


30 posted on 10/20/2014 6:31:10 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: ExSES

Ratshot will get it done too.


31 posted on 10/20/2014 6:43:29 AM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: marktwain

Hard to believe a jury of her peers would convict.


32 posted on 10/20/2014 7:21:50 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: marktwain

They want “gun-free” school zones? LET THEM HAVE THEM. Leave the idiots and their whelps to their own fates, like Columbine and Sandy Hook. Just stay away, and keep your own kids away, because criminals will be the only ones with guns.


33 posted on 10/20/2014 7:56:24 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: marktwain

So the real question here is who told the cops?


34 posted on 10/20/2014 8:14:15 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I had a co-worker like that when i worked in Berkeley, CA. We carpooled once to a company recreational event, about 3 hours each way. Plenty of time to talk and the conversation rolled around to firearms. You should have seen his eyes light up when I mentioned that we’d been riding around all day with a gun in the back of the truck.


35 posted on 10/20/2014 8:14:56 AM PDT by Teotwawki (For a person to get a thing without paying for it, another must pay for it without getting it.)
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To: Tupelo

That’s exactly what I use, a Judge with 410 #7 birdshot. I took out two poisonous snakes one evening with the Judge. I can’t tell you what they were as they’re protected but they’re gone now.


36 posted on 10/20/2014 8:17:52 AM PDT by Teotwawki (For a person to get a thing without paying for it, another must pay for it without getting it.)
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To: marktwain

OK, according to this article, Gregory owned the gun and had the permit. Nothing is said about deMarco, except she borrowed the gun.

So, remarks about permits really do not matter here, apparently. Unless the facts are omitted and wrong.

Of course, morally there is nothing wrong with what she did. Maybe it’s a bleeding-heart PETA issue?


37 posted on 10/20/2014 8:29:34 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Teotwawki

I had a coworker who was antigun. She was in her mid 20 and talked a out how scared she was of guns. I remarked, surely she didn’t think a gun would just ‘go off’ when she walked by one and she didn’t answer.


38 posted on 10/20/2014 8:36:10 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: BuffaloJack

Never knew anyone bitten by scott on mouth. They are especially nasty and mean snakes that are slow but aggressive. They stink.

Never a snake tha didn’t need a good killing!


39 posted on 10/20/2014 1:37:25 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Obola brought to you by demorats. Hope you like your Change and live to tell it.)
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