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RED RIVER RUMBLE? BLM Wants to Seize 90,000 Acres of Texas Ranchers’ Land!
Americas Freedom Fighters ^
| April 11, 2014
| Clark Kent
Posted on 04/13/2014 5:55:42 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
The Red River is the boundary between Texas and Oklahoma
or is it?
Byers, Texas along the Red River The BLM stole 140 acres of the Tommy Henderson ranch thirty years ago. They took his land and paid him absolutely nothing. He sued and lost. Now the BLM is using that court case as precedent to do it again. The problem is, the land they want to seize is property that ranchers have a deed for and have paid taxes on for over a hundred years.
The BLM claims that about 90,000 acres (116 miles along the Red River) have never belonged to Texas in the first place. They will seize the land and it will seriously change the boundaries between the two states.
Avulsion versus Accretion
Since 1803 when the Louisiana Purchase was completed, there has been a controversy over the boundary between Oklahoma and Texas. The boundary is supposed to be the vegetation line on the south side of the Red River. But the River has moved over time. The problem is the definition of that boundary line- Oklahoma and Texas each use different semantics to define it. And the BLM is finding ways to use the disputed words to give them the ability to seize the land.
According to the BLM, the Red River is always Accretion (gradual accumulation of sediment) to the south, and always Avulsion (rapid formation of a new river channel) to the north. So according to the BLM, the boundary only moves one direction, never in the direction that favors the ranchers. They are looking to re-draw the entire portion of the Red River boundary. That includes 90,000 acres of land along a 116 mile stretch of the river.
BLM officials believe they have a responsibility to manage land they believe is federal which includes an estimated 90,000 acres along 116 miles of the Red River. If land is found to be public, BLM officials say they have three options: leave the land open, closed, or open with limitations. January 2014
Public input ignored?
Land that has been in the families of ranchers is to be seized as public lands that would be subject to fees or blocked off entirely from ranchers use. Or in some cases, moving the boundary line over to Oklahoma, where Texas ranchers can lose their rights to the lands that they have owned for more than a century. The BLM had open meetings back in January to take input from the public
but they are moving forward with their plan to seize the land anyway. There was likely never any intention of actually listening to the ranchers stand.
The taking of property from land owners, the stealing of cattle, all of these things are apparently the modus operandi of the Bureau of Land Management. There are no tortoises involved in this incident, just land-grabbing feds who are intent to take away the property of ranchers that have owned it for hundreds of years. Will it come to armed confrontation as is occurring in Nevada? We dont know.
Open grazing of cattle has always been a common law right in America. It is time for the American people to rise up against the theft of private lands and property by a government that is out of control. Ranchers have contact Texas Representative Mac Thornberry for assistance. We will monitor this situation as it progresses.
TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: blm; land; texas; theft
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To: G Larry
Doesn't matter. It takes someone with testicular fortitude to use those rounds, and Nevada proved they will back down.
/johnny
To: Texas Fossil
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posted on
04/13/2014 6:19:06 PM PDT
by
M Kehoe
To: greeneyes
Seems deeds are predicated on boundaries being immutable. When they change, they are retroactively adjusted changing the current boundaries and treated like nothing ever changed.
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posted on
04/13/2014 6:19:21 PM PDT
by
ctdonath2
(Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
To: ctdonath2
JMHO, but they are picking the wrong states to beat up on. I’m a gonna have some popcorn and enjoy watching the Fedzilla/Texas & Oklahoma range war.
If BLM thinks Nevada was bad, just wait till they face the Texan/Oklahoma group. They ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
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posted on
04/13/2014 6:20:38 PM PDT
by
greeneyes
(Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
To: Texas Fossil
Yep. My red hair just lit off.
/johnny
To: xzins
Brown shirts on the move! Amazing that we have crooked politicans worried about the Ukraine and we have this crap going on in our own country.
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posted on
04/13/2014 6:22:15 PM PDT
by
Busko
(The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
To: Texas Fossil
I don’t understand this. Texas and Oklahoma have a long standing dispute over a boundary so the feds just claim it as theirs? If I lived on either side I would tell them to get lost.
To: Texas Fossil
There is a nation-wide agenda going on.
Chilling Truth: The Siege of the Bundy Ranch Reaches into the White House April 13, 2014A leaked memo uncovered in 2010 exposed the Obama Administrations land grab initiative that is intended to spread across other western states. The land grab in this memo alone covered 10 million acres of Western land in 11 states.
As part of Obamas Great Outdoors Initiative, the administration met quietly with environmental groups to map out government plans for acquiring untold millions of acres of both public and private land.
Its a stealthy power grab through executive order that promises to radically transform the American way of life. Michelle Malkin had a thorough description of what the government was doing.
In April 2010, President Obama issued a memorandum outlining his 21st century strategy for Americas great outdoors, calling for officials to conduct listening and learning sessions with the public to identify places that mean the most to Americans and leverage the support of the federal government to protect outdoor spaces. The memo bragged about the federal government being the nations largest land manager.
FR thread for this article here.
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posted on
04/13/2014 6:24:20 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
To: JRandomFreeper
I even recall reading about a little dust up between the two states regarding the building of a no - toll bridge. Governors of both states called out the national guard IIRC, the bridge was shut down, but it was eventually resolved peacefully.
Known in the history of Bryan County Oklahoma as the Texas/Okalhoma war.
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posted on
04/13/2014 6:25:16 PM PDT
by
greeneyes
(Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
To: JRandomFreeper
Nothing like a common enemy to unite the tribe!
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posted on
04/13/2014 6:26:08 PM PDT
by
greeneyes
(Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
To: JRandomFreeper
If they are picking the Red River as a MUST win... they have chosen unwisely. Assuming the goal is not to start a shootin' war, of course...
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posted on
04/13/2014 6:26:48 PM PDT
by
null and void
(The British declared war on the Tea Party. The Tea Party won! (Thanks mom!))
To: Texas Fossil
They will be sending “surveyors” withe machine guns and attack dogs to draw new boundaries.
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posted on
04/13/2014 6:26:51 PM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
To: JRandomFreeper
Boy Howdy! “chozen unwisely” That there is an understatement of enormous magnitude.LOL
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posted on
04/13/2014 6:27:34 PM PDT
by
greeneyes
(Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
To: greeneyes
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posted on
04/13/2014 6:27:42 PM PDT
by
combat_boots
(The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
To: Texas Fossil
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posted on
04/13/2014 6:28:17 PM PDT
by
JouleZ
(You are the company you keep.)
To: Texas Fossil
And this may the final spark. After the Nevada fiasco, maybe the BLM will finally have to BURY some of their idiots!!!!!!!!
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posted on
04/13/2014 6:28:19 PM PDT
by
ProudFossil
(" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
To: greeneyes
Yes. That was one instance.
Texas and Oklahoma may have their differences, since Oklahoma sucking is the only thing that keeps Texas from sliding off into the Gulf, but in a case like this, I think the Texas/OU fans on both sides of the river would react the same.
And it would be ugly (for the federal servant of the States).
/johnny
To: Busko
Sounds like Putin is cutting off river access between Oklahoma and Texas, doesn’t it?
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posted on
04/13/2014 6:28:43 PM PDT
by
xzins
( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
To: Texas Fossil
At some point, we are probably going need to come up with a good offense.
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posted on
04/13/2014 6:29:49 PM PDT
by
rwoodward
("god, guns and more ammo")
To: null and void
If they aim
to start a shooting war, they have still chosen unwisely if they want to steal land off the Red River.
Either way, they really don't want to do this.
/johnny
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