Posted on 02/23/2014 3:09:07 PM PST by butterdezillion
The photos of the Loretta Fuddy Cessna crash that Josh Lang provided to the media? They weren't of the same plane. The plane that crashed with Fuddy in it had a window between the door and the tail; Lang's photos don't. (I've got photos at my blog and in the first post I'll post them so you can compare the 2 planes)
Lang apparently had photos of a DIFFERENT plane ditching in the water and gave them to the media, claiming they were of this crash, and apparently the media didn't check out the genuineness of the photos...
Now why would Lang do that? Why would he post images of the area with no passengers or anything else in the water ANYWHERE, rather than taking photos of what was actually there and giving those to the media?
WX - you’re arguing in the wrong way. If you read the thread, you’d be able to participate, just reading the title of the thread won’t work.
IOW you’re in the dark with a blindfold on.
Speedbird, you just signed up 4 days ago.
Just pointing that out.
In answer to your questions, it all depends upon the options available in the instrument group used in that particular aircraft. You would need to talk to a pilot of that particular aircraft and/or consult the pilot’s handbook for the Cessna 208B. A stall warning is a typical safety feature these days, particularly for a commercial aircraft.
Suffice it to say that confusing Puente’s comment about the alarm that went off when the engine quit with any other alarms that went off later, such as the alarm just before splashdown, is really unreasonable to the nth degree. There really is no good excuse for it. Even your typical automobile has a number of warning alarms these days, so jumping to a wild conclusion like that about a commercial aircraft is testing the limits of nonsense.
there are so many oddities surrounding “the One”.
IIRC, he is a retired commercial airline pilot and a license glider pilot.
So for the first ten seconds of the video there are no warning alarms sounding (cabin and cockpit are silent), then ten seconds of stall warning until impact is not unusual?
Huh? I was responding to Fred Nerks' post 213 which showed the photos from Josh Lang. Those photos showed the entire downed aircraft. I was spot-on when I said that the wingspan of that craft is 52' and that persons floating in the ocean would probably be only about 2' x 2', so about 1/26th of the width of the wingspan. Relative to the size of the plane, the survivors would be quite small and not easily seen in the photo taken from Lang's plane.
How was I only looking at the right wing??? I have no idea what you are looking at or talking about.
Assuming the father was indeed Barack Hussein Obama Sr., then his paternal ancestors are known for at least two generatons earlier. The ancestors are known members of the Luo tribe.
Thanks tomcat.
Hi BDZ:
Yah, OK, I worked up some images in Paint and can email them to you as attachments. I tried to respond to you with private email but get message: ‘account too new to use this feature’. My work seems to indicate these images are of the same plane, but contain other anomalies that I have not been able to explain.
I would post them myself but I can’t figure out how to post images in a comment.
That appears to be the case. https://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N687MA
Oh you mean the book that the terrorist wrote for him....
Thanks very much.
As I said before I’m not an aviation expert. For me I can’t make much of any numbers on either plane. But I’m sure there are those who can.
Placemarker.
Currents that slow sound like tide influened not current influenced.. For instance here at the apex(middle) of the Gulfstream we anticipate a 2-2 1/2 knot current which is rolling right along. Add which way the wind is blowing subtact drag and you can get an idea.Probably not 100% accurate but somewhere in the realm of accuracy.
My guess is we will reach a conensus on the two planes as to whether or not they are the same plane shot at differnt times or not. Right now I’m not sure at this time what that will be.
I was being facetious.
The water in a wave is not in linear motion unless and until the wave breaks.
The plane should have settled more or less intact, with only further damage from impacting the bottom, and barring a hellacious storm event, it should have stayed that way.
It isn't how close to the beach you are (note the only waves in that image of the plane floating which have broken are on the beach), it is how deep the water is.
For contrast, here is a plane that crashed in the surf zone of the Irish Sea in Wales in 1942, and is better preserved than the Caravan. While they don't make them like they used to, it isn't as if the Caravan was being tumbled in the surf.
That stall warning horn for that length of time in such a context is according to the textbook and typical. A commercial pilot engrains such things to make passengers comfortable and baby the corporation’s flying assets.
HF
Right. You’re new here so they don’t let you use freepmail yet. I wonder if you can receive freepmail. I’ll send one off to you.
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