Posted on 02/09/2014 9:26:46 AM PST by Errant
Parenthetical clauses are used throughout scripture to explain how, why, when and where in close proximity to the main subject and verb.
Parentheses in the book of The Revelation explain cause and effect. They tie together the events that happen previously, to the events that transpire subsequently on the prophetic timeline. Unfortunately, parentheses, as a literary devise, come centuries after the actual parenthetical clauses so prevalent in both Hebrew and Greek linguistic constructions. Because of their late arrival into the English language, the parentheticals in the book of The Revelation have never been either deservedly researched or accurately articulated. Now, after more than 40 years in the making, The Chronological Gospels is complete with all of the extensive parenthetical clauses accurately assigned throughout the book of The Revelation.
Now, with its impending fulfillment looming large on the horizon, The Revelation can finally be understood with clarity and lived with integrity. This one feature (the parenthetical clauses in The Revelation) in The Chronological Gospels is worth one thousand times the price of the book itself.
Join Michael Rood for the first of the last four teachings on the very last book of the Bible, Parenthetically Speaking (Before We Are Saved From the Wrath To Come).
Does Rood have any other salesmen we could talk to?
This mouthy one we’ve got is mighty snarky.
What is it that doesn’t compute for you newbie? Why don’t you go find some scripture that supports your position and get back to us?
Love you too sweetie... :D
What part of my "position" do you dispute then? Obviously, we can't pretend anymore that your denial of the trinity is unsure. If you oppose my "position," then you must oppose these doctrines. Now, the question is, what part of the Trinity do you disagree with? Which scriptures, exactly, would you like to read? Do you believe that there is only one God? If you do, I can leave out those scriptures that say so. Do you believe that Jesus is God? If you do, then I need not bother myself with showing them to you. Be specific. What is your position? so I know what it is you need to hear.
What part of "those that support your position" is it that you don't understand?
You sure are dancing around the issue now. Are you afraid to answer the questions? Why so evasive?
My position is quite large. It embraces monotheism, the deity of Christ, the Father and the Holy Spirit. A denial of conflating their persons, and a denial of separating their substance. We hold to their equality, and do not make any inferior to another. Different cults may hold to a couple of these positions, but then differ in others. The Mormons think that Jesus is God, but they just deny that He is the "only" God. They think there are three gods, and an infinite number of other gods. The Jehovah's Witnesses deny the deity of Christ altogether, but hold to monotheism.
Will you please tell me the specific nature of your beliefs? Yes or no? If you don't want to, then that's fine. Just say so, but without saying so, I will not be able to tackle your particular beliefs and give you an answer that satisfies you.
LOLWhut? Look at the very root - the origin of the word ' A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.)'
It is not about listening when tied to 'hearing' YHWH. What, do you think there is some magic in having the words spoken? Of course sh'ma means 'to hear intelligently', but I am trying to give you the 'sense', the connotation that is missed in the translation, that fills up the meaning.
When one hears YHWH, it is more reverberating than just 'listening'. It is bone-shaking, going back to Him shouting down from Sinai. It is full of awe, reverence, fear, and obedience. It is demanded, commanded, amidst peals of thunder, lightning, and the declaratory announcement of trumpets... It has one's full attention, to the quaking innards of one's miserable core.
THAT is the sense of 'hearing' YHWH that causes belief or faith. It is impossible to separate that from obedience - The sense of it permeates everything.
THE SH'MA (Hear O Israel, our God is one God), a very important thing to the Jews, levers the declaratory sense I am talking about.
Well, we were discussing faith/believing. And since your pet subject is quite large, as you say, maybe it can wait for another day. It's been entertaining. Later...
>> “Hosea knew nothing of the NT church.” <<
What you call “The Church” is what Yeshua called his congregation, which is his bride, which is the House of Israel that he is promised to remarry in the last chapter of Hosea.
His bride is present throughout the old testament.
You don't seem to understand. The moment you deny the Trinity, you put yourself outside of Christianity. No Baptists, Methodists, whatever, nor Catholics, who might be partial to some of your views regarding salvation, would even consider you and your group to be valid. You are among the Mormons, and all the fringe groups. This is not something to be dealt with "later," this is a matter which labels you amongst the religious cults and enemies of all Christendom.
Let the record show then that the "Rood" movement is anti-Trinitarian, but doesn't have the guts to stand out and let their beliefs be tested. And until these heretics have the honesty and the courage to put out their positions fair and square, then they have no basis for standing in judgment of all the Christians here on this forum, or anywhere. And from now on, every time I see a Rood thread, masquerading as Christians like us, I am going to ask them again, and again, and again, what their view of the Trinity is, so others may know that these deceivers are enemies of scripture.
"And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ." (2Co 11:12-13)
What does circumcision have to do with the knowledge presented in the feasts?
Circumcision was a special identifying mark for a special people. The feasts are commanded for “all of the nations.”
>> “We’ve already proven the MESSAGE to be bogus!” <<
Only to your itching ears and cold stone heart.
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Circumcision was a special identifying mark for a special people. The feasts are commanded for all of the nations.
It's important because, without being circumcised, one cannot celebrate any of the feasts. The scripture explicitly forbids them from participating, and also declare "one law" for both Jews and Gentiles who participate in it:
Exo_12:48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.
"And the LORD said to Moses and Aaron, "This is the statute of the Passover: no foreigner shall eat of it, but every slave that is bought for money may eat of it after you have circumcised him." (Exo 12:43-44)
Num 15:16 One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.
One does not merely claim that we are under the Jewish law, and then leave out parts of it. If we are required to observe the feasts, then we are under the entirety of the law, such as circumcision, whether you like it or not. If we are not required to be circumcised, then observing the feasts is not required either, but is merely a personal choice for those who might be interested in such things, consistent with our liberty as Christians.
Baloney Errant....
Roods misquote of John 20:30,31 is just one of many of those he twists to suite his agenda. But if you really want the source I used try this...you might find it educational regarding Roods false teachings.....
http://www.seekgod.ca/roodteachings.htm
Baloney Errant....
Roods misquote of John 20:30,31 is just one of many of those he twists to suite his agenda. But if you really want the source I used try this...you might find it educational regarding Roods false teachings.....
http://www.seekgod.ca/roodteachings.htm
Amen, Amen, and Amen!
"And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ." (2Co 11:12-13)
.....”maybe it can wait for another day. It’s been entertaining. Later”....
Oh that was good Errant...cluck cluck!
Many happen to appreciate GPH’S take on scripture and historical Christianity...as well as other topics addressed on the threads.
Further, it would seem you’re own position would “embrace monotheism, the deity of Christ” or not, as has been more than once alluded to, or perhaps avoided might be a better word for you...are you really going to cut and run again?
“What does circumcision have to do with the knowledge presented in the feasts?”
Interesting is there’s a dvd where Rood’s child ended up being born a girl, he was so looking forward to circumcision of a son that he sought another who had a son because.. “this has to be done” he said! Didn’t matter to him if it was his own kid or not..he was going to circumcise someone!
I think it’s on a testimonial dvd...which is a hoot in itself..unfortunately like many other dvd’s he gives false information even about his own history.
The guys a nutcase.
Yep..Here here!!
The whole foundation Michael Rood is building on is sinking sand. And he and others like him are counting on people not knowing the Word of God and not questioning or proving what he says. Rather, some are having their ‘ears tickled’ by what they want to believe is true because they are disillusioned, not grounded in the Word of God or do not really know Jesus Christ. And that will lead them to NOT ‘lovers of Truth.’
2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
http://www.seekgod.ca/roodteachings.htm
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