Parenthetically Speaking (Before We Are Saved From the Wrath To Come)

A Rood Awakening Tv ^ | 7 February 2014 | Michael Rood

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Parenthetical clauses are used throughout scripture to explain how, why, when and where in close proximity to the main subject and verb.

Parentheses in the book of The Revelation explain cause and effect. They tie together the events that happen previously, to the events that transpire subsequently on the prophetic timeline. Unfortunately, parentheses, as a literary devise, come centuries after the actual parenthetical clauses so prevalent in both Hebrew and Greek linguistic constructions. Because of their late arrival into the English language, the parentheticals in the book of The Revelation have never been either deservedly researched or accurately articulated. Now, after more than 40 years in the making, The Chronological Gospels is complete with all of the extensive parenthetical clauses accurately assigned throughout the book of The Revelation.

Now, with its impending fulfillment looming large on the horizon, The Revelation can finally be understood with clarity and lived with integrity. This one feature (the parenthetical clauses in The Revelation) in The Chronological Gospels is worth one thousand times the price of the book itself.

Join Michael Rood for the first of the last four teachings on the very last book of the Bible, “Parenthetically Speaking (Before We Are Saved From the Wrath To Come)”.

[Iscool]

Where'd they all go?????

[roamer_1]

I will never forget the Seder he performed and taught as it clearly was quite Messianic in the symbolism used throughout the meal. It was fascinating.

The Passover seder is beautiful isn't it? Ordained, and REAL, it is an Holy Day rich with history and full of fulfillment and promise - I don't have a clue why anyone would prefer meaningless Easter. I would encourage you to pursue all of the Holy Days of YHWH, as they are ALL just as ripe and overflowing with the very same. Each and every one speaks DEEPLY of Messiah, and the stories they tell are lost to Christians. It is truly sad to me, as if they knew what they were missing, they would never go back.

That sure sounds like the attitude a few here have towards those of us who do not swallow whole everything the man says.

Umm... I have never seen Rood 'carefully avoid' anything.

I've lost count of how many times we have been accused of being Satan's children, his messengers, his minions, liars, etc.

Now, I'd like to point out that there is more heat than light running from BOTH sides of this thread - I too have been called simply awful things, and that from those who at one time I considered close FRiends... They knew what I was then, and that hasn't changed at all. I have always gotten on well with the Pentecostals and Evangelicals around here (though my own Reformed have always politely tolerated me), but it seems those days are gone.

But, now and then, I get to have a reasoned conversation, such as I do with you, and such as these are what make FR Rel worthwhile to me.

The message they send is not unlike those of cults who demand total obedience to their views and who declare a "new" and "restored" Christianity that somehow has been lost for two thousand years.

Funny that, as I am seeing that same thing from the other way around. Nicaean Christians are likewise foursquare, and in the last little bits, they cling yet, even to Rome.

And to be sure, there are Bible thumpers, chest-beaters, and dust-throwers among us all, as FR Rel plainly demonstrates on a daily basis. Let us endeavor to settle down and reason with each other - it is the knowledge that I am all about.

Additional discussions of Michael Rood and an examination of his prophecies and teachings can be seen here

Again, I would like to point out that no one here seems to have even listened to what the man has to say - There is article after article from his detractors, but the ignorance about what the man actually says is stunning and profound. In part, perhaps, it is because he is exclusively vid...

No one here denies that we should obey God's commands and that if we love Him, we will through the power of the Holy Spirit.

Gee, that ain't what I am getting over here.

Nobody is advocating living in sin while basking in the assurance of salvation by grace. The main "beef" has been separating the works we do because we ARE saved by grace through faith and doing works, obeying commandments in order to BE saved. I don't think that is what you are contending as I have always found your "gospel" to be straight. We are saved by the grace of God THROUGH faith and not by works. We are made righteous and redeemed by the precious blood of the Messiah. His sacrifice completely atoned for our sins and NOTHING we do can or needs to supplement His perfect sacrifice. When we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin. Walking in the light is that of living in obedience to Him, seeking to honor and glorify Him in all we do.

Well, Maybe we ought to translate, you and I :D I don't think anyone on my side is saying our works have any redemptive value - In fact I know it. We are all saved by grace through faith. My contention is that works (and let us be clear- 'works' has always meant 'works of the Law' or Torah) necessarily come and are the proof of one's standing. But how are there 'works (of the law)' if there is no more law?

There ARE passages saying that those who keep Torah will be justified - But I don't think anyone here would say that the works ARE what justifies - Rather, what is revealed in Messiah is that those who believe (hear and DO) and follow Him WILL keep Torah - The Spirit within the inward Man enables the desire. Hence keeping Torah is STILL grace through faith.

As for the "Trinity", I have said many times the SAME thing you have [...]

Actually, I think you and I have had this conversation before - I think we wound up agreeing to agree : )

[...][not] because the Catholic Church defined it. We shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Yes, boatbums, I think we should. It is far too easy to paint Yeshua as distinct from YHWH and thereby initiate change. If Yeshua IS YHWH, and YHWH does not change, Then YHWH's Eternal Torah IS Yeshua's eternal Torah. It cannot be added to, nor taken from. Else, all that gets it's definition FROM Torah is gone. And that cannot be. Likewise, it is 'God' doing all the stuff in the OT, and 'Jesus' doing all the stuff in the NT... When really, it is YHWH bringing forth the seed of Torah, which becomes the tree of Tanakh, which sets forth the bloom of Yeshua and the fruit of the Brit Hadasha... All one thing, a beautiful, glorious, matchless continuity.

[editor-surveyor]

You can always tell who has essentially zero understanding of the Bible.

They hang their beliefs on man made concepts that have no attachment whatsoever to God’s word, Like inventing a Trinity that is not mentioned even once in the entire Bible, or a secret rapture that comes who knows when for who knows what reason, but rejecting the resurrection that is mentioned scores of times in the word, and whose time is clearly stated as being at the last trump, complete with even the exact number of days between the abomination and the resurrection clearly stated, and they deny it like vampires being shown the cross.

And when they are at a loss to dispute the scriptures, they attack your motives for daring to post scriptures.

Real doctrine is always clearly shown numerous times throughout the Bible, not imagined out of thin air.

Those that rely on false doctrine are always quick to use false accusations in place of refutation.
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[Errant]

and they deny it like vampires being shown the cross.

Lol, I have an idea of why that is...

Real doctrine is always clearly shown numerous times throughout the Bible, not imagined out of thin air.

I don't understand it. Why invent something when the truth is far more awesome and miraculous than anything man has ever dreamed up. I suppose the only thing that makes sense is Satan at work corrupting the truth that he may gain more souls for himself.

I like to say, "once you know the real story, you don't have to be blind to believe, you have to be blind not to believe!"

[Iscool]

If Yeshua IS YHWH, and YHWH does not change, Then YHWH's Eternal Torah IS Yeshua's eternal Torah.

God changed his mind a number of times in the O.T....

[Iscool]

I like to say, "once you know the real story, you don't have to be blind to believe, you have to be blind not to believe!"

You obviously don't know any scripture since you don't post any to back up what you say...And you obviously don't hear much scripture from Rood or again, you would use it as a defense...

So I do suspect what you do hear from Rude is the diatribe you've been spewing on this entire thread...

[Iscool]

And when they are at a loss to dispute the scriptures, they attack your motives for daring to post scriptures.

And you too...Look at your posts...Do we see any scripture...A hundred posts or more ago you copied and pasted an entire chapter, which had nothing to do with what your were falsely claiming...

For as much noise as you make, your lack of knowledge of the N.T. is astounding...

[editor-surveyor]

>> “So that's why Jesus was born and died on the Cross...So God could become a widower and get married again...Now I get it.” <<

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No surprise that you don't get it.

Not why he died, just why it wasn't understood earlier.

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>> “Paul was told by the Lord to go only to the uncircumcision while the other 12 were told to go only to the circumcision.” <<

The “uncircumcision” is the House of Israel. The circumcision is Judah. They were all sent to the uncircumcision. All of the epistles except Timothy and Titus were to the tribes of northern Israel.

>> “So the Sadducees must have been the circumcision while Israel had to be the uncircumcision.” <<

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Wow what confusion!

The Saducees is the Greek transliteration of the Zadokim, a line of priests descended from Zadok, a godly priest from the time of David. There are no “theories” concerning them. You might note that they received no “woes” from Yeshua, while the Pharisees and their scribes received a long stream of woes.

The Sons of Zadok were the reason why Judah (the circumcision) were in covenant. The House of Israel had no active priesthood, which is why they were uncircumcised, and out of covenant.

>> “Israel and Judah will be united and they will be called Jews.” <<

Absolute nonsense! - Where do you get this crazy junk?

>> “You want to dig up some scripture from Colossians that show Paul was encouraging someone to continue an observance of the Torah?” <<

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Read Colossians!

Colossians 2:

[1] For I would that ye knew what great conflict I have for you, and for them at Laodicea, and for as many as have not seen my face in the flesh;
[2] That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;
[3] In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
[4] And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.
[5] For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.
[6] As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
[7] Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
[9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
[10] And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
[11] In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
[12] Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
[13] And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
[14] Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
[15] And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
[16] Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
[17] Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
[18] Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
[19] And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
[20] Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
[21] (Touch not; taste not; handle not;
[22] Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?
[23] Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.

The Colossians were under pressure both from pagans WRT their holding of Torah, and from the Pharisees insisting that they adopt their man made ordinances, and also insisting that they need be circumcised.

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[editor-surveyor]

>> “And you too...Look at your posts...Do we see any scripture.” <<

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Yes, you do, and you try to ignore its clear plain language meaning. and its strong support for exactly what you resist.

It is impossible to read your posts and even believe that you have ever owned a Bible, or that you could possibly belong to Yeshua. It just doesn’t fit.
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[Errant]

You obviously don't know any scripture since you don't post any to back up what you say...And you obviously don't hear much scripture from Rood or again, you would use it as a defense...

I often quote scripture when I'm posting to those who are scripturally illiterate. Otherwise when I'm speaking to someone for more knowledgeable about scripture than I, there isn't any need of tacking on actual quotes. To do so would be redundant and embarrassingly silly. Which Btw was what I was doing in the case until rudely interrupted by you.

As for Rood, he is all about scripture, better have your Chronological Gospels out when you're trying to follow any of his teachings.

And if you don't like what I'm spewing, go start your own thread genius. Btw, if it wasn't for diatribe, you wouldn't have a thing to say...

[editor-surveyor]

>> “Wow!...... so Rood was outed by an Arbritration Board for stealing/theft lying and and false witnessing.....

Additionally failing to account for his expenses..and taking money out of collections, from donors and a host of other thefts!

Why am I not surprised!” <<

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More than that Why have you not been struck dead on the spot for your continual lying and false accusations?

[editor-surveyor]

>> “You obviously don't know any scripture since you don't post any to back up what you say...And you obviously don't hear much scripture from Rood or again, you would use it as a defense.” <<

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So you've renewed your membership in the false accusation club I see!

[editor-surveyor]

I don’t put much stock in Noah Hutchings.

His radio program survives by selling books written by charlatans and kooks like Nick Begitch and his “Angels Don’t Play This Harp” and getting a share of the profits.

He gives air time to those same kooks that allows them to pretend to be “Christian.”

His daughter is a newspaper writer in Jerusalem.

[editor-surveyor]

P.S. - He wrote and sold a booklet describing the error and pagan nature of Christmas and Easter, yet he still has Christmas and Easter programs.

Go figure!
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[Errant]

Lol, he would have taken too much heat otherwise I suspect. The documentary wasn't bad at all. He got most of the signs right and had some interesting scenery of the Holy lands in the background. I especially enjoyed the part about the greening of Israel, all of the crops raised there now, the wines being produced and etc. All foretold to happen thousands of years ago.

Roamer has spiked my interest in learning more about the millennial reign with a couple of his posts on the subject - that's next on my study agenda.

[af_vet_1981]

Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

This was the ruling by the Apostles for those Gentiles who turned to God through faith in Yeshua. I have no idea why you think the Colossians were of the Diaspora, nor how you equate Gentiles with the House of Israel. I trust Saul/Paul knew who was who and was not confused when he differentiated the circumcision from the uncircumision.

[Iscool]

Roamer has spiked my interest in learning more about the millennial reign with a couple of his posts on the subject - that's next on my study agenda.

That's what I'm talking about...You know nothing about the Millennial reign of Christ but yet you spew this garbage about Christians knowing nothing of the scriptures...

[Errant]

I'm curious; how do you get "You know nothing about the Millennial reign", when what I said was: "Roamer has spiked my interest in learning more about the millennial reign".

Maybe you'll have a better day tomorrow. Why don't you give it a break for tonight?!

[metmom]

Grace isn’t grace if it is earned.

If God only does it for those who try, He is not pouring His grace lavishly on us as Paul tells us He is.

Grace, by its very definition, is unmerited.

What you are advocating is wages due for performance done.

And what we get for breaking the Law is death.

[metmom]

Yeshua demands obedience to all of his commandments. He didn’t leave a single one out. He also explained that Love was the basis of each and every one of them, yet you choose to despise them anyway.

Where do you offer your sacrifices and sin offerings then?

What consecrated priest offers them for you?