By the way.
It is almost lunch here in Chico Ca.
I will be gone from 1:00 to 2:00 pacific, but I’ll respond to any comment after I return from lunch.
I really do want to know how many are with me in telling Obama to take a hike.
My only concern is my children. I too am weighing not participating. That said my employer has not yet announced their intentions.
I don’t know how to buy 0bamacare....I thought I was already paying for it.
I have no health insurance. Never had except when young with children, cheap state stuff many decades ago.
I don’t plan to ever have health insurance of any kind. If I get sick, I doctor myself with herbs and other measures, there is a nasty cheapie clinic if desperate, and if (when) all else fails, I’ll leave the aging earthly tent behind without looking back.
I think you should claim a ‘Right to Privacy’ defense when asked if you have health insurance ... I’ll contribute a small amount to your defense ...
I am alreadying pay for Obamacare through higher taxes and insurance premiums.
I suspect most people will not sign up in the exchanges. They will simply conclude that it is cheaper to pay the Obamacare fines.
As Rush pointed out the other day, the penalty starts at $95/yr the first year for some folks. Obviously many will pay the penalty while it’s so much cheaper than buying insurance, so as employers drop insurance coverage and people opt to just pay the penalty over the first few years, this will result in a massive drop in the number of people paying private insurance premiums. Which means that by the time the penalties really start to get painful in a few years, there will be fewer insurance companies, and premiums will be even higher.
All of which is fine and dandy to the libs, since they’d like nothing better than to completely break the insurance business, forcing the government to step in as a single-payer.
Just watch and see if this doesn’t happen...
We didn’t do this due to 0bamacare but 2 years ago we put my only child still at home on the Christian medi-share plan.
You are on the right track... Don’t sign up for Obamacare, don’t pay the IRS penalty (they can’t go after you for it besides a strongly worded letter), and then if you get sick sign up for Obamacare and see the doc. They can’t deny you on pre-existing conditions now...
With the IRS in charge of collections you won’t have an option to tell them to kiss a$$.
If you work, the IRS will garnish your paycheck for either the penalty or the premium.
If you are retired they (the IRS) can tap into your bank accounts.
I guess you only option is to have no assets whatsoever. That I believe that may be Obama’s ultimate goal. Now you are owned.
The ‘penalties’ start out low for a few years, then they increase massively each additional year.
By that time, independent insurance companies may not be accepting new clients, so you would be forced into the state exchange (or whatever they call it by then).
Of course, that is the long range intention of the whole thing — to force independent insurance out and state exchanges in.
We currently have employer funded insurance. And no plans for them to drop it. Yet.
That said, I posted awhile back here that I would rather pay the fine and was promptly scolded by some for such thoughts.
Go figure.
Remember if you go uninsured you have to pay the tax penalty. So one way or the other you’re buying Obamacare, the only question is are you getting any kind of insurance for your money.
My company is HQd in Canada and has offices in lots of places with socialized medicine, they’re used to this pain, our program won’t be dropped.
I’ll choose Civil Disobedience should it come to that.
I have not had it for 8 years now
And I figure I am about $50,000 ahead of the game even after verious childhood illnesses, regular doctor and dentist appointments, and one hoptialization for a broken arm
Underpay your taxes until filing. Then tell the ODdS to pound sand.
IRS
If your health insurance costs $5,000 per month, your employer isn’t a very good insurance shopper.
$5,000 per year, I’d believe, but not $60,000 per year.
H&R Block informed my penalty will be $680. I’ve cut way back on prescribed medicine. I’m unemployed so far this year, don’t know how that will effect the penalty. Last year my medications without insurance average $80/month for generic. This year it’s $230/month for generic. I take 3 prescriptions which would not be covered under Obamacare unless I had the “Gold” package. I have no intentions of purchasing insurance as my house is no longer insured. My car deducable is now $2500. I would quickly spend down my cash for coverage and still have to pay for my medicines out of pocket. The whole Obamacare thing is fantasy.
I haven’t decided what to do yet, but I’ve lived on a cash basis for the most part for doctor appointments and prescriptions. It’s a lot cheaper with no insurance involved. after all, that’s how Americans have done it for decades before health insurance grew into a monster.
I won’t being paying to kill infants and euthanize the elderly. That will never happen.