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How Many Freepers Are Planning To Do What I Am Going To Do? Refusing To Purchase Obamacare? (Vanity)
8/29/13 | OV

Posted on 08/29/2013 11:10:51 AM PDT by OneVike

Thanks to the current regulations Obamacare has forced upon insurance companies, my employer is paying $5,000.00 a Month for my healthcare today. I was informed that as of January 1, 2014 they will be forced to drop my coverage. I work for a small family business that has paid for my health insurance for the past 25 years, but next year they will not be able to afford it any longer.

So, come next year I will be forced to buy into one of the plans offered by Obamacare. I have told my wife I am not going to buy it. I will go without insurance and take my chance with God, whom I have unlimited faith in.

As many of you know, my wife is a paraplegic who has been on medicare, and even her insurance will change. However we will keep hers, because her healthcare is my number one priority.

I am wanting to know how many other Freepers will forgo insurance as I will. How many like me will tell the government to kiss my #^*@.

I am of the belief that there are enough Americans like me who, if we refuse to play their unconstitutional game, can cause the whole system to collapse upon itself. That is if we do not cave in to the pressure to go long.

I am currently weening myself off any and all drugs I am being prescribed by my Dr, and making up the difference by changing my diet and or habits that led me to need the prescriptions. If there is a drug my DR. swears I need to have to live a good life, I will then put my faith in God. Come what may.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: communismsucks; freedome; obamacare
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So, how m,any other Freepers are considering or already doing the same as I am planning to do when my employer is forced, by Obamacre, to stop covering my health insurance?
1 posted on 08/29/2013 11:10:52 AM PDT by OneVike
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To: OneVike

By the way.

It is almost lunch here in Chico Ca.

I will be gone from 1:00 to 2:00 pacific, but I’ll respond to any comment after I return from lunch.

I really do want to know how many are with me in telling Obama to take a hike.


2 posted on 08/29/2013 11:13:35 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

My only concern is my children. I too am weighing not participating. That said my employer has not yet announced their intentions.


3 posted on 08/29/2013 11:14:26 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: OneVike

I don’t know how to buy 0bamacare....I thought I was already paying for it.


4 posted on 08/29/2013 11:15:03 AM PDT by EBH (Is Damascus on the Eve of Destruction? Isaiah 17)
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To: Resolute Conservative

That is like my needing to keep my wife covered, but as I said she is already on medicare due to her medical condition.


5 posted on 08/29/2013 11:15:32 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

I have no health insurance. Never had except when young with children, cheap state stuff many decades ago.

I don’t plan to ever have health insurance of any kind. If I get sick, I doctor myself with herbs and other measures, there is a nasty cheapie clinic if desperate, and if (when) all else fails, I’ll leave the aging earthly tent behind without looking back.


6 posted on 08/29/2013 11:17:25 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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I think you should claim a ‘Right to Privacy’ defense when asked if you have health insurance ... I’ll contribute a small amount to your defense ...


7 posted on 08/29/2013 11:17:50 AM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: EBH

You may be paying for it, at least in part, but you are not collecting any benefits as of yet.

You need to join an exchange to be covered.

That is what I refuse to do. I’ll taker my chance with the IRS penalizing me,. and then I’ll fight, fight, fight.


8 posted on 08/29/2013 11:18:00 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

I am alreadying pay for Obamacare through higher taxes and insurance premiums.

I suspect most people will not sign up in the exchanges. They will simply conclude that it is cheaper to pay the Obamacare fines.


9 posted on 08/29/2013 11:18:03 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: OneVike

As Rush pointed out the other day, the penalty starts at $95/yr the first year for some folks. Obviously many will pay the penalty while it’s so much cheaper than buying insurance, so as employers drop insurance coverage and people opt to just pay the penalty over the first few years, this will result in a massive drop in the number of people paying private insurance premiums. Which means that by the time the penalties really start to get painful in a few years, there will be fewer insurance companies, and premiums will be even higher.

All of which is fine and dandy to the libs, since they’d like nothing better than to completely break the insurance business, forcing the government to step in as a single-payer.

Just watch and see if this doesn’t happen...


10 posted on 08/29/2013 11:19:16 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: 11th_VA

Thanks, I will need it when the IRS comes after me for a penalty that I will die before I pay.

I have put much thought into this, and I have no option but to fight.


11 posted on 08/29/2013 11:19:19 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: bigbob

Even if it were but only $10.00 fine, I would refuse to opay it.

My life came from God, not the government. They have no right to force me to do anything about my health.

Even the Constitution grants the truth that we are endowed by our Creator, not the government. Thus I am free to do with my health anything I wish and they cannot do crap to me.


12 posted on 08/29/2013 11:22:18 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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We didn’t do this due to 0bamacare but 2 years ago we put my only child still at home on the Christian medi-share plan.


13 posted on 08/29/2013 11:22:30 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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You are on the right track... Don’t sign up for Obamacare, don’t pay the IRS penalty (they can’t go after you for it besides a strongly worded letter), and then if you get sick sign up for Obamacare and see the doc. They can’t deny you on pre-existing conditions now...


14 posted on 08/29/2013 11:22:36 AM PDT by xenob
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I doubt you'll be alone ...

I get insurance through my wife, but if MY company asks me VERIFY I have insurance, I'm going with the 'Right to Privacy' defense ...

15 posted on 08/29/2013 11:22:38 AM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: OneVike

With the IRS in charge of collections you won’t have an option to tell them to kiss a$$.

If you work, the IRS will garnish your paycheck for either the penalty or the premium.

If you are retired they (the IRS) can tap into your bank accounts.

I guess you only option is to have no assets whatsoever. That I believe that may be Obama’s ultimate goal. Now you are owned.


16 posted on 08/29/2013 11:23:19 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Christian, Freeper, Tea Party Member, Bitter Clinger, Creepy White Cracker)
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To: bigbob

I think that’s their end intention, but I also see a growing retail market for health care. You know - where you write a check to your doctor/dentist like we used to in a sane America.


17 posted on 08/29/2013 11:23:52 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: OneVike

The ‘penalties’ start out low for a few years, then they increase massively each additional year.

By that time, independent insurance companies may not be accepting new clients, so you would be forced into the state exchange (or whatever they call it by then).

Of course, that is the long range intention of the whole thing — to force independent insurance out and state exchanges in.


18 posted on 08/29/2013 11:24:46 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: OneVike

We currently have employer funded insurance. And no plans for them to drop it. Yet.

That said, I posted awhile back here that I would rather pay the fine and was promptly scolded by some for such thoughts.

Go figure.


19 posted on 08/29/2013 11:26:18 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: OneVike

Remember if you go uninsured you have to pay the tax penalty. So one way or the other you’re buying Obamacare, the only question is are you getting any kind of insurance for your money.

My company is HQd in Canada and has offices in lots of places with socialized medicine, they’re used to this pain, our program won’t be dropped.


20 posted on 08/29/2013 11:26:30 AM PDT by discostu (This is why we have ants!)
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