Posted on 08/27/2013 2:27:12 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
As we head into a potential government shutdown over the funding of Obamacare, the iconoclastic junior senator from Texas love him or hate him continues to stride across the national stage. With his presidential aspirations as big as everything in his home state, by now many know what has never been a secret: Ted Cruz was born in Canada.
But does that mean that Cruzs presidential ambitions are gummed up with maple syrup or stuck in snowdrifts altogether different from those plaguing the Iowa caucuses? Are the birthers now hoist on their own petards, having been unable to find any proof that President Obama was born outside the United States but forcing their comrade-in-boots to disqualify himself by releasing his Alberta birth certificate?
No, actually, and its not even that complicated; you just have to look up the right law. It boils down to whether Cruz is a natural born citizen of the United States, the only class of people constitutionally eligible for the presidency. (The Founding Fathers didnt want their newly independent nation to be taken over by foreigners on the sly.)
Whats a natural born citizen? The Constitution doesnt say, but the Framers understanding, combined with statutes enacted by the First Congress, indicate that the phrase means both birth abroad to American parents in a manner regulated by federal law and birth within the nations territory regardless of parental citizenship. The Supreme Court has confirmed that definition on multiple occasions in various contexts.
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So the one remaining question is whether Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth. Thats an easy one. The Nationality Act of 1940 outlines which children become nationals and citizens of the United States at birth.
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Welcome to FR.
Facts are stubborn things.
Interstingly enough Canada doesn't require birth on Canadian soil for somebody to be NBC. (Nor do they require two citizen parents).
I guess the laws of nature must be different in Canada.
“By renouncing his Canadian citizenship, he is a bona fide natural born citizen of the United States. “
Not true at all. You cant be born a Dual Citizen with split allegiances and then revert to a natural born Citizen just because you renounce the foreign allegiance. It doesnt work that way. It was never meant to work that way. All it makes him is a U.S. code statutory Citizen.
“Your boy Obama is not a NBC even IF he was born in Hawaii, nice try.”
Pity. You’re the one arguing that if it’s ok for Obama it’s good enough for us.
Some of us have higher standards. Others don’t think it’s important that the highest office of the land have a leader without divided loyalties.
Ted Cruz doesn’t even have a American birth certificate.
Guess you don't read to good, eh?
Take off.
“I guess the laws of nature must be different in Canada.”
Yawn. Twisting the definition is just par for the course. NBC - born on American soil. Try again.
Why would he? He has a Canadian birth certificate, same as everyone who’s born in Canada.
“Take off.”
You first.
And then they repealed it 5 years later and removed the natural born Citizen language.
Well as we all know NBC status can't be legislated or repealed.
So why was it in there. Both Acts were really only about Naturalization.
I think the above in the 1790 Act simply shows that there was some confusion even back then about NBC.
Just making conversation.
And of course your above words don't appear anywhere in the Constitution.
Don't try again.
... and Cuba.
Will do, after your comprehension 101 class....let me know.
But, there was a problem, clearly. The upshot was that individuals born under such circumstance were to be regarded as citizens only, and that has been the case ever since.
We have an example of individuals born outside the jurisdiction to citizen parents that has never been in dispute, and that would be children of diplomats. Why has this never been disputed? Because diplomatic relations require such representation to have diplomatic immunity, ie they're not under another jurisdiction.
Jurisdiction therefore is the problem in attempting to legislate such status. Some foreign sovereignties claim jurisdiction in the form of citizenship over all births within their geographic territory. Others don't.
LOLOLOL...widminded indeed!
Cruz is most likely playing to see who takes the bait and then turn them on their heads. He knows he’s not eligible. We’ll see.
I think I see where you're coming from, but why this then?
S.Res.511 - A resolution recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.
Agree.....have read here that his father was fighting with Castro against Batiste.
I'll catch a lot or crap for this, but the more I see of Cruz, the more he comes off like another political hack.
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