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But the big question is this: Are there still three percent of the American population with the courage and resolve to fight against an out-of-control, tyrannical government?
1 posted on 05/06/2013 1:57:18 PM PDT by True Grit
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Don’t 53% have deserve it?


2 posted on 05/06/2013 1:59:31 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains
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I doubt it. I doubt they’d be asked, either. Soldiers are mostly the same redneck good ‘ol boys that would theoretically be the ‘enemy’.

Ammo purchases are likely more about choking off the civilian market than actually acquiring the ammo for use.

SnakeDoc


3 posted on 05/06/2013 1:59:36 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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We know it’s 47% + the government against the 3%


4 posted on 05/06/2013 1:59:37 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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Funny. This article coming one day after the anniversary of Kent State.


5 posted on 05/06/2013 2:01:50 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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“....they have Predator drones, spy satellites, and sophisticated online surveillance and communication systems.”

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And a Congress that seems to support a tyrannical government.


6 posted on 05/06/2013 2:02:00 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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I don't know about the military, but the militarized police are chomping-at-the-bit to shoot US civilians.


7 posted on 05/06/2013 2:03:09 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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Yes.

They have already appeared on several FR threads last year and said so.

Any flag-rank officer who might refuse such an order is being run out of DC on a rail, and replaced by those loyal the The Obama.

They will issue the order, and they will fire. Those who might refuse, are already out.


9 posted on 05/06/2013 2:05:22 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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Question: "Will American Soldiers Fire on U.S. Citizens?"

Response: Yes. That is why "The Divine One" is pushing for a Sodomite, weirdfemale, minority, noncitizen army. They will do his bidding as they owe their very being to him.

Comment: Now a question I have not seen posed: Will U.S. Citizens fire on the military?

10 posted on 05/06/2013 2:05:31 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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The big question is the headline one he didn't answer: what will the military do? Will it be so feminized and transformed into a PC institution when the final push comes that they will do whatever the bosses say? Or will they be like the US military has always been, a collection of brave men who love freedom and who think for themselves? We will see. My prediction is that it will split apart, just as the military split apart in the civil war. So long as the forces of freedom can gain access to bases, hardware and enough good soldiers before it is too late, we can prevail. If the left is smart, they go slow for a decade or two and then spring the trap when they have greater control than they do now. If falls to the wary to not stay in the pot until we are boiled.

There are more than 3 percent who will fight, and 40 percent who will support the fight, and they are concentrated in a contiguous block of states. We will need some brave governors and state legislatures to say "enough" at some point, and begin the preparation.

To me, the line is when they seek registration of the guns. Prepare for battle at that event. The fight begins when they come for those who don't comply. I hope we have a few states, most particularly Texas, who say no, and can form a base for resistance. If not, if we are few and scattered, it will be tough to mount anything, especially since they know who we are and where we are.

I'd like to see some state governors creating their own state militias. It is constitutional, and they do not have to permit the President to federalize them.

12 posted on 05/06/2013 2:09:10 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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>> But three percent was enough.

3% was enough for fighting an enemy with a 2000 mile supply chain that had to cross a dangerous ocean in sailing ships.

Our enemy has a supply line that at his fingertips, along with all the armored motorized transport he needs.


13 posted on 05/06/2013 2:09:16 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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A lot depends on the level at which the guvment will employ those forces against those opposed to it. If it operates as it did against Vietnam, in other words fighting with one hand behind the back, then there is a good chance of winning.

If on the other hand, total war tactics are employed, things will get ugly pretty quick. Leftists/Socialists have always been thourough in their elimination of opponents. See Stalin, Mao, Kim Jung, etc.

Factor in the indoctrination attempts in the military whereby law abiding, God fearing, small government types are portrayed as the enemey and you now have a potential significant percentage of the military willing to shoot our fellow Americans....or apprehend.

Remember Ayers said it would take about 25 million casualties to bring about the change the Left wants. Think about that...25 million...and that was 40years ago. That number is more likely to be around 50-75 million now.

How many gun owners are in the U.S.?

14 posted on 05/06/2013 2:09:29 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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Up here in the mountains if you cut off a rattlesnake`s head, his tail will wiggle n` rattle until sundown but he can`t bite no more.


17 posted on 05/06/2013 2:11:27 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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A whole bunch of metrosexuals and gangbangers could vanish in the woodlands and swamps without leaving a trace.


22 posted on 05/06/2013 2:26:36 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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In wondering whether American troops would fire on American civilians, a bit of historical context is in order.

When the Vietnam Legacy studies were done based on in depth interviews with veterans, combat veterans, and more specifically ground combat troops, it was learned that in a given firefight with the enemy, fewer than half of armed infantry troops actually fired on the enemy.

The rest faked it or just lay low till the fray was over. I believe that the average American troop is even less likely to fire on someone who is a neighbor, knows his neighbor, or knows him.

That is why I would expect to face not GI's but UN "peacekeepers." Hopefully they will be wearing their bright blue UN helmets, as that will provide a good target to sight in upon.

23 posted on 05/06/2013 2:26:45 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Appears to this observer that I recollect that the last time a tyrant tried to away our guns, a foreign nation came to our aid and bottled up the tyrant`s army and navy at Yorktown.

Lafayette! Where are you?


24 posted on 05/06/2013 2:26:56 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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1. I will fight when they force gun registration. 2. I will fight when they come for my guns. 3. I will fight when they come for me.

This is part of the problem and why a revolt may never get started. It is the "I" and the "me" or "my" part that would allow a slow, piecemeal dismantling of liberty.

Can a revolt succeed? Conventional tactics and guerrilla warfare does not go far enough. If it should come to an open revolt, that would mean it has been conceded that preserving the US as a military and economic power is not important. Once that concession is made, the potential to win by economic destruction becomes possible. Our economy is a fragile system of inter-dependencies. It just takes a little imagination to figure out how to exploit that vulnerability. If people know what to do and how to do it, the economy would be a basket case in just a few weeks.

26 posted on 05/06/2013 2:31:10 PM PDT by trubolotta
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The VC are not a good example as they had plenty of “outside” support and the South had its hand tied behind its back by the US and its own corrupt government. The Taliban certainly was armed initially by us and later, the Russian weapons they seized.

The USA is now in more of a civil war position. The problem here is that the South was very well trained and armed.

Buy guns for personal protection by all means but an all out war assumes a 45 - 55 split that is not in our favor. I don’t think the government has the strength yet to grab guns and open concentration camps. At least yet.


29 posted on 05/06/2013 2:34:09 PM PDT by JimSEA
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I am not sure at what point I would fight.

I do know someone who would have if he were still alive. My Father was a bit crazy. There is no doubt in my mind he would have fought before giving up his guns. I don’t know how he lived to 90 but he did.


30 posted on 05/06/2013 2:36:19 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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Well, they did at Kent State.


32 posted on 05/06/2013 2:39:16 PM PDT by Paladin2
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I am one citizen that will shoot back!


33 posted on 05/06/2013 2:39:27 PM PDT by Renegade
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