Obama Naturalized As A Citizen In 1983

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/04/british-blogger-obama-naturalized-in-1983.html#idc-cover ^

[Cold Case Posse Supporter]

In truth, Obama's background is more than compelling. It's a tragedy. In 1971, Barry Soetoro, son of Lolo Soetoro and Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, arrived at Hawaii International Airport as an unaccompanied minor with Indonesian Nationality.

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Obama's original long form birth certificate was sealed and archived after a Court order to seal it. A Certificate of Live Birth for Barry Soetoro, son of Lolo Soetoro and Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, was created and filed as part of the finalized adoption order.

In 1971, Barry Soetoro was taken into protective custody by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. His legal custody was transferred to Catholic Social Services of Connecticut while his grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, was appointed his legal guardian.

Catholic Social Services of Connecticut was under contract the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to provide child welfare services for minors with foreign nationality in 1971. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is discharged with the duty of administering the Federal Foster Care program. Obama entered the Federal Foster Care program in 1971 and was not discharged from the child welfare program for foreign nationals until he reached the age of majority, 18 years-old, August 4, 1979.

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Shortly after Obama arrived in Hawaii and was taken into Federal Foster Care, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro and Barack Hussein Obama Sr. returned to Hawaii to appear at a child custody hearing. It was at this hearing Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro testified Barry Soetoro, a/k/a/ Barack Hussein Obama II, was not the son Barack Hussein Obama Sr. Barack Hussein Obama Sr. had returned to Hawaii at the request of the U.S. State Department to testify he was the birth father of Barack Hussein Obama II,...

[bgill]

Moo or hussein claimed SAD was a single mother on welfare but who is claiming typical white granny ever got foodstamps?

[Fred Nerks]

... but I find it impossible to believe that they would have sent him to a Catholic charities center in Connecticut, of all places, when his family was in Hawaii...

I saw nothing to date that indicated the boy was 'sent' anywhere. Rather, it seems there was a matter of identity to be sorted out, and the charity was the appointed authority. There's really no speculation necessary imo, she had him removed from her passport, that much we do know; he travelled on a passport of his own, and IF there was nothing to indicate to immigration officials at the airport upon his arrival that he had any relationship to the people who claimed to be his grandparents...

Why would they just hand him over?.. If he landed as Barack Hussein Obama 11 without a return ticket to Indonesia, what would you expect immigration to do?

The very least the authorities would have required is a birth certificate or confirmation of the identity of his birth mother. Obviously the divorce documents which showed Stanley Ann Dunham as the custodial parent wasn't sufficient. If immigration asked for a birth certificate and that document wasn't provided...(you can fill in the blanks)

I ask myself, if I were to send a child to another country on their own passport without a return ticket and no evident relatives (other than 'my grandparents are supposed to be picking me up') what might I expect to take place at the other end?

And now compound that by the possibility that he had AN INDONESIAN PASSPORT.

[Fred Nerks]

...but who is claiming typical white granny ever got foodstamps?

When Michelle said that his mother was very young and single when she had him...I think she also said they were on foodstamps. What Michelle didn't tell you is that Lolo and Stanley Ann filed a JOINT TAX RETURN in Hawaii in 1973. A tax return on which they DID NOT CLAIM a son or a stepson. They claimed ONE CHILD and that child was MAYA.

It's possible that the Dunham couple, as guardians appointed, were automatically entitled to claim certain benefits on behalf of the child. A record probably exists somewhere. Michelle would not have opened her mouth unless there's some smoke there.

[WildHighlander57]

This is where food stamps and 0’s granny came up...

I was asking sven ‘why the discrepancy in timeline-
foster care /govt $ recipients needed SSN and per him 0 was in foster care @ grannys in 1971. But SSN wasn’t obtained by 0 till 1977.

Sven replies in post #81:

“To: WildHighlander57

Okay,here’s my final answer as to why Obama’s case manager at CSS of CT applied for a SSN on Obama’s behalf in 1977 ...

“1977 Food Stamp Act of 1977 (P.L. 96-58) required disclosure of SSNs of all household members as a condition of eligibility for participation in the Food Stamp program.”

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/history/reports/ssnreportap.html

81 posted on Mon Apr 08 2013 21:32:22 GMT-0500 (CDT) by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

[WildHighlander57]

Fred,

The scenario you posted assumes 0 traveled alone.

Question:

With whom did he travel?

[Vendome]

Indeed ...

[Fred Nerks]

NO ONE KNOWS.

‘Dreams’ describes how SAD tells him she will follow in a year or less. ‘Dreams’ describes how he waves goodbye to her and Lolo at the airport in Indonesia. AND THAT’S ALL WE HAVE.

LIA (who died suddenly) spent something like three months with zero and the Dunhams in Hawaii possibly the summer before...so he must have had his own passport, but if he had a return ticket, I imagine his arrival would not have presented a problem. He ceased to be a visitor or tourist if he came alone without a return ticket, is my understanding.

[Vendome]

BTW, Who outed me? /s

[Cicero]

I think that was all part of Obama’s habitually lying campaign strategy. “My father was a goat herd, and my mother lived on food stamps.”

That sounds better than to say that his mother was a crazy, Communist, Muslim-loving daughter of the privileged class, and his father was a drunken, womanizing sot who also belonged to the privileged class over in Kenya.

Plus his ancestors on both sides were slave owners or slave traders.

That doesn’t sound like a very good campaign strategy, so he changed it a bit. Never mind such measly little things as the facts.

[advertising guy]

you did

[Fred Nerks]

...That sounds better than to say that his mother was a crazy, Communist, Muslim-loving daughter of the privileged class, and his father was a drunken, womanizing sot who also belonged to the privileged class over in Kenya.

Or admit that Stanley Ann Dunham wasn't even in Hawaii when 'they' married or when their child was supposedly born, and that the kenyan didn't know he had a wife and child in Hawaii until three weeks after zero was supposedly born, according to his immigration documents.

[WildHighlander57]

The thing is, if someone accompanied him on the trip...

there would have been NO NEED for social services to get involved.

[justiceseeker93]

Then explain why I was bothering to check on kids placed at church organizations by the state back in the 80s when I was a CPS worker? Also, explain why the church orphanage by my childhood home had state placed kids there when I was a kid in the 70s.

The situations you brought up involved state or local government, not the federal government. That's a little different from the scenario alleged by Sven Magnussen regarding the young Obama.

Also, did the church organizations you reference have formal contracts with the state or local government, as SvenMagnussen alleges the federal government had with Catholic Social Services of Connecticut c. 1971? In other words, was the state or local government paying the church organizations to take care of those kids, or were the church organizations doing this on a charitable volunteer basis?

[Fred Nerks]

...there would have been NO NEED for social services to get involved.

Exactly. So maybe instead of attacking the messenger as I am myself repeatedly attacked, it might serve better if we all attempted to find out a little more about what really happened.

From the little we do know, it seems he arrived in the summer prior to the commencement of Grade Five. It's doubtful this was the same journey from Indonesia to Hawaii that he undertook with little LIA (who died suddenly) to whom Madelyn gave the 'monkey-doll' - so he must have made at least TWO trips, possibly three; one prior to Christmas in 1969, one with LIA for a summer holiday (year unknown) and one when he arrived on his own after (according to 'Dreams' ) Stanley Ann Dunham promised to follow no more than a year later.

And THEN he did not live with 'his mother' and 'stepfather' as shown by the joint tax return filed by Mr & Mrs Soetoro for 1973.

That boy did have his own passport. What we don't know is the nationality on that passport.

[Vendome]

I’m uh slippin ....

[no-to-illegals]

LucyT am deferring to Cicero. Cicero, I would like to compliment you. Your posts here are common sense (imho). There is a lot of fact in this thread and not being an attorney the legal ramifications confuse me. When I read your posts Cicero, I find I trust your words. Attorneys move with the speed of turtles, most of the time, and that maybe is what is taking so long. Otherwise I am clueless. I defer.

[Fred Nerks]

Scott Inoue says this photo shows him with Barack Obama Jr. as classmates at Noelani Elementary School in Honolulu in 1969.

SOURCE

[Fred Nerks]

http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/lia-soetoro-sobah-speaks-in-her-own-words/

http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/08/07/liaobamas-adopted-sister-died-suddenly/

[Kenny Bunk]

Our learned dissertations, strong defense of contrary opinions, and exchange of details that are ALL parts of an intricate puzzle are simply quite marvelous.

Except for one thing.
That is, they accomplish nothing but add to the miasma surrounding the man Obama. Confusion=Cover.

While we deliver resounding salvos, he slips through the smoke and fog to do more damage to our Republic. He and Reggie lean back on AF1 and enjoy the cocktails. While Barack blasts in and out of sand traps with Tiger Woods, Michelle is off on a succession of "separate vacations," while the "girls" Spring Break somewhere else expensive. We complain about the man constantly. But frankly, since he does NO actual work, he cannot be "blamed" for anything! The worse we say he is, the stronger grows his support base. And just FYI, he is not running in 2016.

There has always been enough doubt about the man's identity and bona fides to have had him removed him from any state ballot in the land while it was sorted out. If the Bar of the State of Illinois could figure that out and permanently separate him from their ranks, one might be forgiven for thinking that a state attorney general could have reached the same conclusion and have taken him off a ballot while seeking clarification. That did not happen. The courts have refused to hear the case on its merits and that's that.

No amount of hard-learned information is going to change the situation if those in any authority refuse to act on the information. Even a redoubtable fellow like Lt.Col West, who agrees completely with the findings of the Cold Case Posse, refuses to comment. He says, "I have a future in politics and I don't want to jeopardize it."

Of course in an ideal Republic, NOT commenting would jeopardize his future. An idea? Do not mention the name "Obama" again. Instead concentrate on Program. Plan. Implementation. And LEADERSHIP. Again, FYI, we will not face The Mombasa MF in another Presidential Election. The strategy is simple enough. Obama becomes the "Whipping Boy," while a craftily chosen colleague like Hillary sneaks in. She has a brain, she is twice the Marxist Obama is, and will consolidate the socialist revolution underway now, if we are stupid enough to let her.

Speaking of leaders, I think if more Americans in leadership positions in the business world, the arts, the sciences could possibly bring themselves to simply acknowledge the validity of the questions about Constitutional Eligibility, the situation might be resolved in time for the next Presidential election in 2016.

We are not getting rid of Obama because he is Constitutionally Ineligible. Neither will he be impeached for document fraud. Normally, a politician can only be removed from office with (a) a dead girl ... or(b) a live boy ... in the car. Although he has clearly chosen option (b), his dedicated press corps will give him a pass.

We oppose Obama, but we offer no alternative, except "No Obama." Not good enough.

[LucyT]

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Check out # 219.

Hear, hear.

Thanks, Kenny Bunk.