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How Will They Confiscate Your Guns?
Keep And Bear Arms ^ | July 21, 2000 | John A. Sutter

Posted on 03/11/2013 4:50:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

For decades I have heard gun owners claim that the government would never be able to confiscate our firearms because the government would lose too many men. The implication being, of course, that gun owners would actively resist confiscation, even to the point of shooting back. But I believe this thinking is outdated and doesn’t align very well with reality. But before you tell me how big your honor guard in Hell will be when that day comes, let’s think about how the government could really do it.

Suppose, for the sake of argument, the government bans all civilian possession of firearms at the end of this month. Congress passes a total ban and the President cuts his own re-election throat by signing it. Gun owners get some grace period to turn them in, even beyond the deadline, without being charged with a crime. If we use Australia and Britain as examples there will still be a significant number of firearms that are not turned in. Some estimates put the Australian turn-in at less than 25% and the British faired only about 28%. But Australians and the British have long been used to obeying almost every gun control law. Not so the Americans. When laws are passed that we don’t like, we bite. We scratch. We vote. So here we sit after the guns have been collected and the amnesties have run out. Now what? Send out the personnel carriers, swat and shock troops to seize the guns from those militia “terrorists” who refused to turn them in? Don’t be silly.

The government has lots of records about you. If you purchased a firearm since 1968, chances are that they have some record of it somewhere....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunconfiscation; guncontrol; secondamendment
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To: Doc Savage

#5 can’t happen


21 posted on 03/11/2013 5:15:51 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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The next thing you’ll get from the government is an official looking notice that they think you still have a firearm. Their information will probably include all the information from registration forms, right down to the serial number. That notice will tell you that you’re in violation of the law, subject to prosecution and imprisonment. It will give you some period of time to surrender the gun. It will also give you a very limited number of days to return the form with an explanation of why you don’t have the gun, any proof you have,...

What proof do I need? I tell them I sold them all years ago when it was legal to sell privately with no forms or checks. I don't think many judges will issue warrants based on "we think he's lying." It would only take a few cases of warrants issued, nothing found to slap the judges signing them in the face real hard. How hard would it be to sucker them into searching some homes with no guns in them?

22 posted on 03/11/2013 5:16:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Pollster1
Aren't you just a little ray of sunshine?

Get real. Lots of criminals have weapons that are illegal for them to have in places where guns are banned. Cops aren't doing your scenario on them.

Because it's dangerous for the cops.

/johnny

23 posted on 03/11/2013 5:16:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can see this happening, if we didn’t have a Second Amendment and many people willing to fight confiscation laws, and every step leading up to it, in the courts.


24 posted on 03/11/2013 5:18:13 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: MountainDad

The author is from California; probably a liberal pretending to be conservative so he could post on the pro-gun website to push fear mongering and anti-gun propaganda


25 posted on 03/11/2013 5:21:13 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: MeganC
Get a suitable sized piece of oil-resistant PVC pipe. Put a couple of your pieces in it for ‘long term storage’.

If it is the time to bury it, more than likely it is the time to use it...

26 posted on 03/11/2013 5:21:24 PM PDT by Gritty (Necessity is the plea for every infringement of freedom; it is the argument of tyrants-PM Wm Pitt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How Will They Confiscate Your Guns?

From my dead cold hands

MOLON LABE.

27 posted on 03/11/2013 5:21:54 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Pollster1

If there isn’t a revolution BEFORE that point then any idiot who hasn’t fled the country with his family will deserve that fate.


28 posted on 03/11/2013 5:22:14 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s one way they confiscate: by having registration and background checks in place and a complicit media who prints the names of gun owners, it just became counterproductive to own registered guns.


29 posted on 03/11/2013 5:23:22 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Pollster1

I’m not sure if “deserve” is too strong a word but they would still be mighty stupid to stay.


30 posted on 03/11/2013 5:23:26 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Old Sarge
p.s.

31 posted on 03/11/2013 5:26:10 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Doc Savage

Nothing will go through Congress or the White House. Instead all these totalitarian regulatory agencies will fire up and make rules and come for guns.


32 posted on 03/11/2013 5:28:47 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: babygene

Don’t assume LEOs will confiscate your guns without compunction. Many LEOs will probably be on your side and refuse to confiscate them. In fact they may turn on their masters...: )


33 posted on 03/11/2013 5:28:52 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Gritty

And use it against those who passed the laws and those who declared them constitutional.


35 posted on 03/11/2013 5:33:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: Wanderer99
Easy. Break into your home when you are at work or away on holiday. Then rip our every board until they find them.

Oops! They were all at a friend's house. Now I sue them into oblivion for property damage, emotional trauma and file against the judge for issuing a warrant without good cause. Rinse and repeat X100.

36 posted on 03/11/2013 5:34:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

Not one of mine has paper on it,not even my ammo!


37 posted on 03/11/2013 5:34:46 PM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Taking property from citizens who have done no wrong would make the Constitution null and void. It would break the covenant of "governing by the consent of the governed". At that point, all bets are off. Its one thing to have federal authorities go after a "lone wolf" like Randy Weaver, its quite something else to set up raids on (potentially) millions of homes across the nation. Even the stupid, f'ing ACLU would have real fits over that, although at present they won't admit it.

Some will comply, and others will resist through civil disobedience; I think more than a few will resist by other means - and that could get messy. The big question is what will the bulk of law enforcement and the military do?

The US SC has pretty well defined the 2nd and applied it to the states through the 14th Amendment. There are more than a few courts that would issue injunctions against confiscation.

Total gun confiscation in the US will not be attempted - at least by anyone who is sane.

38 posted on 03/11/2013 5:35:48 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I got it:

We nibble our pop tarts in the shape of a gun! This will scare the heck out of them.


39 posted on 03/11/2013 5:38:25 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Sometimes it takes calamity to lead to serenity - FReeper RacerX1128)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

And THAT is why I love this place.


40 posted on 03/11/2013 5:38:36 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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