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Gun Owners Worry New Proposals Could Make Millions Of Americans Criminals (Everything Class III?)
The Raleigh Telegram ^ | January 10, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 01/10/2013 12:13:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

RALEIGH – Many North Carolina gun owners and gun enthusiasts are worried that new gun proposals that go far beyond an assault rifle ban would make many of the otherwise law abiding 80 million Americans who are gun owners into criminals if they do not register their weapons with federal authorities.

National and international media reports have stated that the White House under a committee led by Vice President Joe Biden is going to seek sweeping changes in how guns are registered, sold, and taxed in the wake of the Newton, Connecticut school shooting.

Under the potential proposals which have yet to be officially announced, all firearms would be required to be registered in a national database that would keep track of all guns and who owns them. The database would include all new guns but also would include all guns that have been sold in the past, as there would be no “grandfather” clause in the new proposals.

In addition, one gun shop operator told the Telegram that the proposals could basically treat all firearms as “class three” weapons.

This would mean that they would be tracked in a national database, that there would be a substantial tax on the guns, and that they could not be passed from generation to generation as they would be destroyed upon the death of the registered owner. In addition, it would be a federal crime to transfer the guns or even to own them without having them registered, even if they were legally obtained...

(Excerpt) Read more at raleightelegram.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloodoftyrants; congress; democrats; donttreadonme; gunconfiscation; guncontrol; gunregistration; nocompromise; obama; rtkba; secondamendment; tyranny; wewillnotcomply; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: XenaLee

It’’s not to shame or endanger us, but to CONTROL us!


41 posted on 01/10/2013 1:24:14 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: EEGator

These same liberals who say, “Think of the children,” have no problems killing unborn children in their mothers’ wombs.....55 million children killed by abortion since 1973 and counting.


42 posted on 01/10/2013 1:29:09 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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To: KGeorge
This what I can find quickly

http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-17961.html

In which we find (search on Clinton in the text):
"Anyways, I had to sell it shortly after because Bill Clinton was an idiot and made this shotgun a class 3 item and I was not 21 at the time."

Other details are probably out there, somewhere.

43 posted on 01/10/2013 1:46:52 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: grobdriver

grobdriver, did you mean this post for me? The question I had asked was for more information re Gun Appreciation Day. FR has been glitchy for me today & I know for some others (multiple posts TNFTO).


44 posted on 01/10/2013 2:05:56 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: apillar

Two words:

Webster County.

Lived in WV all my life, and never had a beef with anyone. Still makes me slightly nervous to go there.

I know of LOTS of “hollers” over there where no one can hear you scream, even if you scream into a cell phone or radio.


45 posted on 01/10/2013 2:26:52 PM PST by FLAMING DEATH (I'm not racist - I hate Biden too!)
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To: KGeorge
Sorry - different post.
http://gunappreciationday.com/

Spread from gun shops to street corners... we are.

46 posted on 01/10/2013 2:28:22 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: grobdriver

No worries. (More concerned that your post got to it’s intended recipient)
Thank you!

Thank goodness!


47 posted on 01/10/2013 2:50:53 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: All

48 posted on 01/10/2013 2:56:17 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
We need a 5 Million Gun Owner march asap on DC

Dittos.

49 posted on 01/10/2013 2:57:25 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“No Guns for Negroes” video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nckgyfGbdnU


50 posted on 01/10/2013 3:01:33 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We are “ALL” Criminals... it is just a matter of degree and what the enforcement de jour happens to be at any given moment.

TT


51 posted on 01/10/2013 3:08:08 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; JRandomFreeper

Forgot to ping JRandom ... I’m with him... there are many Laws that I just ignore.

I don’t remember who said it (long ago) but basically

“Nothing is illegal, till ya get caught”

TT


52 posted on 01/10/2013 3:17:37 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: apillar
In my area of rural West Virginia it would be much easier to print a list of those who don't own guns (but maybe it would shame them into buying one).

lol.....I believe it.
53 posted on 01/10/2013 3:36:43 PM PST by Girlene
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

isn’t there a phrase somewhere called ex post facto???


54 posted on 01/10/2013 3:42:34 PM PST by terycarl
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To: Sybeck1
Brighten up, Comrade the vodka rations will numb all discontent.

GREAT, maybe this isn't so bad after all!!!!!!!!!!

55 posted on 01/10/2013 3:44:19 PM PST by terycarl
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To: terycarl

Ex post facto means you can’t be charged for a crime that wasn’t illegal when it was committed.

So, you won’t get in trouble for the weapons you purchased years ago, however, you are still in POSSESSION of them, which is the new crime you are committing after the law has been passed. Or failure to register them, etc. You just won’t be charged for illegally purchasing them. There are plenty of ways for them to get around ex post facto.


56 posted on 01/10/2013 3:46:50 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s already like that here in Massholeville.
Can’t leave the gun store until the feds do a check.
Only takes a few min. but thats not the point.


57 posted on 01/10/2013 3:51:34 PM PST by freedomtrail (EEOC- Eventual Elimination Of Caucasians)
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To: Nervous Tick
Obama got about 66 million votes in ‘12. This is dangerous electoral math territory for the ‘Rats

don't be ridiculous...the dems will vote for the village idiot WHILE he is taking away their guns....Pathetic...

58 posted on 01/10/2013 3:52:16 PM PST by terycarl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

US gun registration: The smallest database in the universe.


59 posted on 01/10/2013 3:54:06 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: usconservative

Luckily I haven’t lost any of mine. You’re g#d d#mn#d right I’m armed.........come and take them. Pack a lunch it’s going to be a long day.


60 posted on 01/10/2013 3:58:14 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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