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Gun Owners Worry New Proposals Could Make Millions Of Americans Criminals (Everything Class III?)
The Raleigh Telegram ^ | January 10, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 01/10/2013 12:13:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

RALEIGH – Many North Carolina gun owners and gun enthusiasts are worried that new gun proposals that go far beyond an assault rifle ban would make many of the otherwise law abiding 80 million Americans who are gun owners into criminals if they do not register their weapons with federal authorities.

National and international media reports have stated that the White House under a committee led by Vice President Joe Biden is going to seek sweeping changes in how guns are registered, sold, and taxed in the wake of the Newton, Connecticut school shooting.

Under the potential proposals which have yet to be officially announced, all firearms would be required to be registered in a national database that would keep track of all guns and who owns them. The database would include all new guns but also would include all guns that have been sold in the past, as there would be no “grandfather” clause in the new proposals.

In addition, one gun shop operator told the Telegram that the proposals could basically treat all firearms as “class three” weapons.

This would mean that they would be tracked in a national database, that there would be a substantial tax on the guns, and that they could not be passed from generation to generation as they would be destroyed upon the death of the registered owner. In addition, it would be a federal crime to transfer the guns or even to own them without having them registered, even if they were legally obtained...

(Excerpt) Read more at raleightelegram.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloodoftyrants; congress; democrats; donttreadonme; gunconfiscation; guncontrol; gunregistration; nocompromise; obama; rtkba; secondamendment; tyranny; wewillnotcomply; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: KGeorge
I’ve often thought that people should line the nearest main street to their home or work at a given time, on a given day

I think that's what the 19 January thing is all about.
"Gun Appreciation Day" or somesuch.

21 posted on 01/10/2013 12:34:18 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: t1b8zs; GlockThe Vote
"Hows January 20th sound?"

That sounds wonderful, but it would take an organization like the NRA or GOA to organize it and, so far, nothing like that is planned. If they don't, it may soon be too late for demonstrations.

22 posted on 01/10/2013 12:34:35 PM PST by Truth29
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To: ZX12R
If they start going to peoples houses who haven’t complied, I was just wondering how many people there are out there, who might be pretty good at setting up lethal booby traps and trip wires. Does anyone think many would resort to that? I wonder.

There are many of these deep, dark "hollers" here in West Virginia where you might have fifty homes, however they are really only several highly intermarried families. Everybody knows what's going on and who comes and goes. Now what do you think is going to happen the first time a dozen ATF agents come tooling up in their SUV's thinking they are going to raid some lone hicks guns, only to find a legion of heavily armed rednecks who know the area a heck of a lot better than them descending on them from all directions.(I'll give you a clue, read up on what happened to some of the "revenuer's" during prohibition) It's not a matter of if it will happen, but when...

23 posted on 01/10/2013 12:35:26 PM PST by apillar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t have time to search and see if this has been posted. It needs to be.

Obamacare Amendment Forbids Gun and Ammo Registration
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/09/Backfire-Obamacare-Forbids-Gun-and-Ammo-Registration


24 posted on 01/10/2013 12:35:37 PM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>> 80 million Americans who are gun owners into criminals if they do not register their weapons with federal authorities.

Unless I’m mistaken, all or substantially all of this new gun owner criminal class are over 18 and not felons — and thus eligible to vote.

Obama got about 66 million votes in ‘12.

This is dangerous electoral math territory for the ‘Rats.


25 posted on 01/10/2013 12:35:53 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This crap won’t get thru Congress. If the President tries to order it, Congress will overturn it. There are far too many gun owners who WILL vote single issue if need be, and the democrats know it.


26 posted on 01/10/2013 12:36:40 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

27 posted on 01/10/2013 12:37:55 PM PST by EEGator
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To: kiryandil
Biden: "If you don't register your guns, the government will confiscate them"

January 10, 2013 | The Interwebs

Apparently, BrainDamage Biden just spouted this off on the radio in the last couple of hours...

I'm starting to think Biden is the best friend we have, he's managed to fire up the movement in the last couple days like not even Obama could. (By the way Biden, if we DON'T register them, then you will have no way to find them, idiot.)

28 posted on 01/10/2013 12:38:32 PM PST by apillar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone has convinced Obama this will be no different than the Whiskey Rebellion.

Hooboy, don’t think so.


29 posted on 01/10/2013 12:44:14 PM PST by wrench
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To: norwaypinesavage
Somehow, I don’t think Obama will be able to find out about these.

Depends on how thick your walls are.

Scanner Vans Allow Drive-By Snooping

30 posted on 01/10/2013 12:44:23 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Vice President Joe Biden is going to seek sweeping changes in how guns are registered, sold, and taxed in the wake of the Newton, Connecticut school shooting.

Nothing makes Obama and this corrupt Government happier than when they can ca$h in on a tragedy.

31 posted on 01/10/2013 12:45:51 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Class III?


32 posted on 01/10/2013 12:46:56 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is a move to repeal NFA (highly restricted weapons regulation) as unconstitutional.
The _Heller_ case deemed handguns Constitutionally protected.
Expanding NFA to include handguns will make it easy to eliminate NFA altogether.


33 posted on 01/10/2013 12:48:52 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: Truth29

Tea party got two million people into DC for protests on just 3 days notice.
Just give us a reason and a date.


34 posted on 01/10/2013 12:51:00 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: grobdriver

I haven’t heard about that, More info?


35 posted on 01/10/2013 12:54:34 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Class III? Or how about this one:

Tragically, I lost both my babies in a boating accident, I shall never see them again!

36 posted on 01/10/2013 12:56:08 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: GlockThe Vote
We need a 5 Million Gun Owner march asap on DC.

Armed!

Well, the consequences of doing so might exceed the power of the statement, but it would definitely make a statement!

37 posted on 01/10/2013 1:03:03 PM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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38 posted on 01/10/2013 1:04:13 PM PST by baddog 219
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To: Truth29

There is actually going to be a Pro-Gun march on The Mall the week before the Inauguration.


39 posted on 01/10/2013 1:06:52 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So if they pass a law like this, does it make me a criminal, or does it confirm the one who passed it is one?

Seeing how who passes it is given authority by the Constitution that the law would be clearly violating, I really do not see such a law as binding and valid.

It is just a declaration of war on the Republic by some very evil men who have no authority by law. Shame on them.


40 posted on 01/10/2013 1:15:17 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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